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Re: BOD's SIMPLE AS FUCK SAB TEK [Re: teladi]
    #25858905 - 03/07/19 04:50 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

while that's probably true I always make sure they aren't touching because it's easy and I hate losing jars


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Re: BOD's SIMPLE AS FUCK SAB TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25933358 - 04/13/19 11:21 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Are there any downsides to using a tub how it is with the lid and some holes and not using it upside dow with a table as the bottom?


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Re: BOD's SIMPLE AS FUCK SAB TEK [Re: Spreadtheknowledge]
    #25975550 - 05/06/19 11:01 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

My lid is not entirely sturdy, and has ridges and channels. Table would just be a better more sturdy surface for me.


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Re: BOD's SIMPLE AS FUCK SAB TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25981285 - 05/09/19 06:13 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Awesome! thanks man!


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Re: BOD's SIMPLE AS FUCK SAB TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25993047 - 05/14/19 07:17 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Fantastic! This answered so many questions for me! Many thanks!


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Re: BOD's SIMPLE AS FUCK SAB TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26052876 - 06/14/19 07:02 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Love it, thanks!


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Re: BOD's SIMPLE AS FUCK SAB TEK [Re: mrdelimeatslicer]
    #26101405 - 07/11/19 12:36 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Quick question: is ozium sufficient to sanitize the interior of a SAB? As in, wiping it with alcohol, spray the towel, orient the SAB, spray the inside? I usually place all my work on the towel and then invert the SAB.


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Re: BOD's SIMPLE AS FUCK SAB TEK [Re: jbgtaa] * 1
    #26102025 - 07/11/19 10:58 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Use soapy water or nothing. Do not put alcohol in a SAB where you insert a flaming hot scalpel which can ignite alcohol vapor and explode in your face.


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Re: BOD's SIMPLE AS FUCK SAB TEK [Re: JHOVA]
    #26102054 - 07/11/19 11:19 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

soapy water or nothing...? seriously? First of all, i dont flame my scalpel inside the SAB, and when i do flame my scalpel i cool it with alcohol before use. Why would i use soapy water instead of ozium if im not lighting fire inside? Ive heard of people using lysol.


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Re: BOD's SIMPLE AS FUCK SAB TEK [Re: jbgtaa]
    #26102126 - 07/11/19 11:58 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

That's retarded. You contaminate your scalpel with alcohol lol. It's not sterile anymore bud.

Keep it stupid simple water and soap or nothing at all. You don't need fancy mechanics to understand what is going on in a SAB.

Read the tek on the first page which you clearly did not read.


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Re: BOD's SIMPLE AS FUCK SAB TEK [Re: JHOVA] * 1
    #26102189 - 07/11/19 12:25 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Fancy mechanics? Dog i read the post, lose the fucking attitude. If you want to talk about fancy mechanics we can talk about the air sanitization rates of ozium vs whatever soap your trying to use, which is not meant to be atomized or misted which inherently means its not reaching every inch of air of the box. I read the post, and asked if ozium COULD be used, and you said absolutely no, in the words "soapy water or nothing" and at that point, i had to disagree with you because if soapy water were better at sanitizing air than literally anything else that is sold for that purpose, then that's what people would be using for their homes, for smoke elimination, you know what air sanitizers are actually used for?
EDIT: its really not fucking cool to call anyone a retard. I notice it used alot here and for a group of people with a higher mental capacity than most im astonished at that.


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Re: BOD's SIMPLE AS FUCK SAB TEK [Re: jbgtaa]
    #26102350 - 07/11/19 01:35 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Didn't call you names I stated you idea is dumb. Name calling is prohibited. A SAB works by means of still air. Very simple physics. Particles fall down. If no air is moving and all the particles in the air are on the floor of your sub you don't need a sterilized of sanitized surface you don't need clean air.


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WHY IT WORKS

You CANNOT sterilize the inside of a SAB
Sanitizers are not Sterilizers
and Sanitary is not sufficiently contamination free to do STERILE work.
thus you have to work with physics rather than your chemicals
you do not want air movement, it's a STILL AIR BOX
this is why glove boxes are a no-no in this hobby
glove boxes with attached gloves create air currents, you don't want to stir up non sterile air, you want to avoid having the contamination end up in your work in the first place

This design uses no sleeves or any caps on the arm holes. I believe my work speaks for the efficacy of not needing to over complicate things.




You need to read up on sterile technique. Putting alcohol on a sterilized blade is not sterile work and will lead to lots of contamination. Check out the stickies.


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Re: BOD's SIMPLE AS FUCK SAB TEK [Re: jbgtaa]
    #26102463 - 07/11/19 02:53 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

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Fancy mechanics? Dog i read the post, lose the fucking attitude. If you want to talk about fancy mechanics we can talk about the air sanitization rates of ozium vs whatever soap your trying to use, which is not meant to be atomized or misted which inherently means its not reaching every inch of air of the box. I read the post, and asked if ozium COULD be used, and you said absolutely no, in the words "soapy water or nothing" and at that point, i had to disagree with you because if soapy water were better at sanitizing air than literally anything else that is sold for that purpose, then that's what people would be using for their homes, for smoke elimination, you know what air sanitizers are actually used for?
EDIT: its really not fucking cool to call anyone a retard. I notice it used alot here and for a group of people with a higher mental capacity than most im astonished at that.



No one called you a retard... But dipping anything you flamed sterilize into alcohol is retarded. Alcohol is sanitizer and alcohol can harbor contaminants that it doesn't kill. Sterile alcohol for use in labs is ridiculously expensive. They push it through a 0.2 micron filter

Ozium is a glycolized spray. I think its PG and PEG if I remember right. Its just a ridiculously expensive version of spraying soapy water which works for thousands and thousands of people.( And so does not spraying your SAB at all)

We don't spray to sanitize the box. We spray to theoretically knock down contaminants. And then have them stick to the walls and floor where they cant become airborne again


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Re: BOD's SIMPLE AS FUCK SAB TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26102815 - 07/11/19 06:04 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Great tek. Thanks!


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Re: BOD's SIMPLE AS FUCK SAB TEK [Re: shroomanly]
    #26103368 - 07/12/19 12:42 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Okay so dont cool off the scalpel with alcohol, got it. And ozium is just as effective as soapy water, right? I didnt go out and buy ozium for my SAB, I just had some because i smoke in my house and dont really like the smell. Thats why i use it. And im hip to the principles of the still air box, i just couldnt understand why this guy was specifically telling me to not use ozium when its literally designed to clean the air. I understand that thats not the exact point of the still air box, but to say "soapy water or nothing" just seemed ridiculous to me.


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Re: BOD's SIMPLE AS FUCK SAB TEK [Re: jbgtaa]
    #26103379 - 07/12/19 01:07 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

thats because you still dont get the physics of a sab :shrug:


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Re: BOD's SIMPLE AS FUCK SAB TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26150324 - 08/24/19 01:41 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

I've read BOD's SAB tek.
And I have a couple of question, please.

1) For example, when I'm going to inoculate grain jars using spore syringe.
Should I spray soap water into SAB, when grain jars and spore syringe are already placed inside the SAB?
Or should I spray soap water to empty SAB (grain jars and syringe outside the SAB), then wipe grain jars and spore syringe using alcohol and then put them inside the SAB?
I mean, if I spray soap water inside the SAB, when grain jars and spore syringe are already placed inside it - jars will be wet and soapy, no? Is it ok?

2) Should I spray soap water inside my SAB through arm holes? Or should I spray soap water from top of SAB, then rotate it upside down and put to table?


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Re: BOD's SIMPLE AS FUCK SAB TEK [Re: Gwindor]
    #26150511 - 08/24/19 07:51 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Doesn't really matter for either question


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Re: BOD's SIMPLE AS FUCK SAB TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26150724 - 08/24/19 10:57 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

It can matter if your jars get wet. Most filters will be fine, but I have some stupid papery SFDs that just get wrecked at the slightest bit of moisture.

The SFDs are crap and I shouldn't have bought them but they did come from a sponsor here, so I figured I should say something.


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Re: BOD's SIMPLE AS FUCK SAB TEK [Re: Alchemycologist]
    #26150727 - 08/24/19 10:58 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Everything inside the PC is going to get wet the entire volume of space in the PC is steam and during cool down that turns back to liquid water. Even under the foil over lids. So you already have to use filters that don't get ruined from moisture


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