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BOD's SIMPLE AS FUCK SAB TEK * 311
    #23990888 - 01/07/17 08:51 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)

This tek is part of bod's cultivation is easy as fuck link list




Bod's Easy AF SAB TEK



what do you need?

A 110q tub or a 66q tub. 110q is preferred.
alternatively you can build one out of Plexiglas or something else like an aquarium but that's not the simple AF way. Some people have found tubs in the nearly 200q size as well, that will work too.


you will also need

Paper Towel,
70% alcohol (usually iso)
gloves for your hands
A torch (or anything that doesn't fuck around like those little alcohol lamp things)
And some tools like a scalpel and inoculation loop(not pictured)

and you will also need a spray bottle(not pictured), that's capable of making mist, with some warm water and a drop of dish soap (approx 500ml water for one drop of dawn or Palmolive)

I color code my spray bottles
Blue for mist water(for spraying substrates)
Clear for 150ppm chlorine(not often used)
Green for 70% ISO
Yellow for water with a drop of soap for SAB spray

70% alcohol sanitizes better than 90+ or higher concentrations
more info about that here

How To Build It



do the holes with one of these

get it hot on a stove, don't burn yourself.
make the arm holes comfortably far apart so that you can move your hands around as if there were no SAB there in the first place. The idea is to have the same freedom of motion you would have if you spent a bunch of money on a flow hood
make some holes, clean them up with some sandpaper if needed so they don't cut your forearms up.

How do you use it? How does it work?

get a table and your SAB
wipe the inside of the SAB and the table surface with some alcohol on a paper towel
put the SAB on the table and you might want to put a weight on top so it doesn't move around at all
put your work inside the box, (or put it on the table then put the SAB over it)
spray the water inside the SAB with your sprayer on fine mist mode
light your torch and put it on low, I put it on the side of my SAB on the table
be prepared mentally for the work you're about to do
have everything ready and rehearsed in your mind
put the gloves on and wipe them down with iso, wipe your forearms down too


WHY IT WORKS

You CANNOT sterilize the inside of a SAB
Sanitizers are not Sterilizers
and Sanitary is not sufficiently contamination free to do STERILE work.
thus you have to work with physics rather than your chemicals
you do not want air movement, it's a STILL AIR BOX
this is why glove boxes are a no-no in this hobby
glove boxes with attached gloves create air currents, you don't want to stir up non sterile air, you want to avoid having the contamination end up in your work in the first place

This design uses no sleeves or any caps on the arm holes. I believe my work speaks for the efficacy of not needing to over complicate things.


now get to work!
Bod's 2017 thread

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Visit the link at the very top of this thread to see all the things you can do with your SAB


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Re: BOD's SIMPLE AS FUCK SAB TEK [Re: bodhisatta] * 2
    #23991845 - 01/08/17 08:58 AM (7 years, 20 days ago)



Was at the store yesterday and spotted this monster, it's 200qt.  Do you see any disadvantage to using this for my SAB?
When working with grain jars in my 110qt SAB, I run out of space.


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Re: BOD's SIMPLE AS FUCK SAB TEK [Re: bodhisatta] * 5
    #24017008 - 01/17/17 10:29 AM (7 years, 11 days ago)

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...and fancy boot washing stations




Ohhh, that's what those things are!  They really make it difficult having them off the ground though.



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Re: BOD's SIMPLE AS FUCK SAB TEK [Re: azur]
    #24017061 - 01/17/17 10:55 AM (7 years, 11 days ago)

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azur said:
Everyone gets contamination sometimes



5 out of 10 of my GT jars I made didn't recover , there's various degrees of recovery. but none of them are acceptable


this is two days after a shake

the other 5 seemed to do well with the same LC. different batches of grain in the cooker though..

I made a tub with the other 5 and it's almost fully colonized it was spawned on the 13th


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Re: BOD's SIMPLE AS FUCK SAB TEK [Re: Mr Piggy] * 1
    #24017109 - 01/17/17 11:18 AM (7 years, 11 days ago)

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Mr Piggy said:
Quote:

bodhisatta said:
...and fancy boot washing stations




Ohhh, that's what those things are!  They really make it difficult having them off the ground though.






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Re: BOD's SIMPLE AS FUCK SAB TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24017148 - 01/17/17 11:36 AM (7 years, 11 days ago)

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bodhisatta said:
Quote:

azur said:
Everyone gets contamination sometimes



5 out of 10 of my GT jars I made didn't recover , there's various degrees of recovery. but none of them are acceptable


this is two days after a shake

the other 5 seemed to do well with the same LC. different batches of grain in the cooker though..

I made a tub with the other 5 and it's almost fully colonized it was spawned on the 13th




We need more people posting this type of stuff. Not just their success. Because it makes noobs think that if they get a simple contamination they're failing


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Re: BOD's SIMPLE AS FUCK SAB TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24477432 - 07/12/17 08:18 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

If you don't have a coffee can to make the holes or are worried about any fumes released from heating a coffee can, you can also use an aluminum dryer vent connector.

Which looks like:

This also works: but can be flimsier depending on the brand.

Easily found at any hardware store for like 2 - 4 bucks and come in different sizes or can be adjustable.

Or if you want to be really cheap pull the one off your own dryer.

Heat on stove top for like 5 min on high if you have electric or on top of a cheap pan if you have open flame/gas stove for a few minutes longer. Remove hot connector from stove with tongs, put it where you want an armhole on the SAB and push down with a thick oven mitt until it pops through.


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Re: BOD's SIMPLE AS FUCK SAB TEK [Re: Gunsel]
    #24644159 - 09/19/17 03:11 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

So putting those PVC adapter fittings in the holes is a bad idea? If so is it part of the same idea to make the holes bigger than 6 inches so you do not kick air up as you move?



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Re: BOD's SIMPLE AS FUCK SAB TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24703405 - 10/11/17 08:41 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Been using this site for a couple years now, but just now made an account to tell you this Tek is :thumbup:

Also, i used a 105oz big ass can of this food called 'Hominy' (all the Mexicans out there know what i'm talking about) to drill the holes. You can find it at any supermarket for $3.50.

Keep in mind that some of the plastic will stick to the bottom of the can, so repeat heat-ups will give off a lot of fumes. I set mine on my pre-heated electric stove-top for about 3 minutes at medium.

So, now I've got both some fine lookin holes on my SAB and 2162 calories of what appears to be soggy white corn! Bone apple teeth!


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Re: BOD's SIMPLE AS FUCK SAB TEK [Re: Ullr]
    #24811297 - 11/28/17 09:16 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks, BOD! I built my first GB in 1975.  It was a cardboard box with elbow length gloves and a poly window taped in place.  Spores from Mya Bells.  Man, I love Sterilite clear totes!  In the last two years  I’ve really had fun with science while making many upgrades to my techniques and practices primarily by searching this forum.  I love my new SAB, thanks BOD. I finally have enough room to really work and continue to make progress toward less contamination.  I’m hanging onto my forced air HEPA filter  booth because it was fun to build and it really works well.  Precipitating contaminants in a mist of soapy water is a great breakthrough in sanitation for me.  Thanks for the tip.  I’ve also switched to 70% alcohol from 91% after coming to realize how much more effective it is for sanitation. Another great tip.
The routine I’ve settled into is inoculating LC’s (dextrose with light malt) with spores. (Great LC lids from Shroom Supply) I’m using well populated LCs to create grain masters, then G2G and finally to the unmodified 54 quart tubs with coir. One 24 watt twist 6500 bulb in cone reflector per tub when fruiting.  I’m basically following the BOD SAF format for everything using 8 tubs.  Geeze!  I’m starting to look like Sheldon! lol  Great science, great hobby and great work by BOD consolidating a lot of very useful information to share with fellow mycologists.


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Re: BOD's SIMPLE AS FUCK SAB TEK [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #25032222 - 03/01/18 03:54 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

I get more surface area to work on the inner side of the lid.. just a bit more :shrug:



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Re: BOD's SIMPLE AS FUCK SAB TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25120028 - 04/07/18 05:38 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)





SAF. Thanks Bod.


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Re: BOD's SIMPLE AS FUCK SAB TEK [Re: someguy250]
    #25488129 - 09/25/18 01:37 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

I finally got my big girl panties on and followed the tek. It took about 5 minutes and I was taking my time.

Heated the can up on the stove and pressed it through the tub. Wham! Bam!


Shazam!


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Re: BOD's SIMPLE AS FUCK SAB TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25795792 - 02/06/19 06:23 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

Some things to keep in mind when making a SAB...
1. When shopping for a sab, try to find one with a relatively flat lid. You see tha weight in mine? Thats cus the lid goes in so much it makes everything lean or uneven, the weight it to pop it down for a more level workspace.
2. When shopping for a sab tote, look for one that also has flat and very clear plastic. This one pictured, it looks clear, but looking up close it is kinda hard to see detail through it. Flat sides not fancy bends!
3. Make sure you make your arm holes a cofortable distance apart, so that you can work well, and have manuverability.
4. I heard an elevated workspace helps a lot with contams, what you see pictured is a silverwear holder meant for the inside of a drawer, they had a few styles but this one had a perfect flatness and square wire holes for the job. Its sitting on a papertowel dampened from wiping up lysol sprayed on top n bottom n throughout the sab, keeps it from sliding.
5. Something underneath to keep sab from moving on slipwpery services, i used a rug meant for bathroom, sprayed down pretty good with 70% iso.
Thats it for now, thought I’d share to save others from the hastle this particular sab has brought me...



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Re: BOD's SIMPLE AS FUCK SAB TEK [Re: Gan]
    #26228831 - 10/04/19 04:14 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Hello everyone. I seem to have made a similar mess as Gan did.

Outside


Inside


Just to confirm. So the tape I added around the edges of the right hand and along the cracks of the left hand hole really have no impact on the practical utilization(Air Stillness) of the box?


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Re: BOD's SIMPLE AS FUCK SAB TEK [Re: Dukedomo]
    #26228899 - 10/04/19 05:49 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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Hello everyone. I seem to have made a similar mess as Gan did.

Outside


Inside


Just to confirm. So the tape I added around the edges of the right hand and along the cracks of the left hand hole really have no impact on the practical utilization(Air Stillness) of the box?




For anyone who sees this and wants to know what went wrong.  If you dont have a coffee can you heat up and drop on the box for arm holes, draw a circle, heat up a large kitchen knife, chissel, bit of metal with a handle and follow the circle rounds.

Dont cut without heat or the plastic breaks.


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    #26356551 - 12/02/19 01:26 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: BOD's SIMPLE AS FUCK SAB TEK [Re: curious.psychonaut] * 1
    #26368736 - 12/08/19 10:04 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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your top picture is only true if you invert the gloves as you remove them. if you leave the gloves in box and remove your hands the volume stays the same. Plus when you remove your hands the work should be done anyways? :thumbup:

The second one im not sure if the hand is supposed to be going in or out, but contaminants are quite light and dont fall the the floor of your box quite so instantly.
I totally agree sab is the way to go, and it is much much easier to do, i was just confused why everyone thought there is no air movement in a sab and there is a ton in a glove box. Really is a pointless argument im making lol
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Re: BOD's SIMPLE AS FUCK SAB TEK [Re: DeckardCain]
    #26368788 - 12/08/19 10:31 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Quote:

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your top picture is only true if you invert the gloves as you remove them. if you leave the gloves in box and remove your hands the volume stays the same. Plus when you remove your hands the work should be done anyways? :thumbup:

The second one im not sure if the hand is supposed to be going in or out, but contaminants are quite light and dont fall the the floor of your box quite so instantly.
I totally agree sab is the way to go, and it is much much easier to do, i was just confused why everyone thought there is no air movement in a sab and there is a ton in a glove box. Really is a pointless argument im making lol
sab ftw




contams stick to the walls of the SAB because they were misted with soapy water b4 hand if they dont fall to the bottom.
Also try to flame sterilizing your tools in between transfers or jars THEN come back with your thoughts.  :thumbup:


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Re: BOD's SIMPLE AS FUCK SAB TEK [Re: 13shrooms]
    #26368792 - 12/08/19 10:37 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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13shrooms said:
Quote:

jerdope said:
Quote:

curious.psychonaut said:





your top picture is only true if you invert the gloves as you remove them. if you leave the gloves in box and remove your hands the volume stays the same. Plus when you remove your hands the work should be done anyways? :thumbup:

The second one im not sure if the hand is supposed to be going in or out, but contaminants are quite light and dont fall the the floor of your box quite so instantly.
I totally agree sab is the way to go, and it is much much easier to do, i was just confused why everyone thought there is no air movement in a sab and there is a ton in a glove box. Really is a pointless argument im making lol
sab ftw




contams stick to the walls of the SAB because they were misted with soapy water b4 hand if they dont fall to the bottom.
Also try to flame sterilizing your tools in between transfers or jars THEN come back with your thoughts.  :thumbup:




Did it all the time when i started back in 2012 :thumbup:


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