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gay thoughts on MDMA? 2
#23990816 - 01/07/17 08:27 PM (7 years, 23 days ago) |
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Last time I rolled, my male friend (we are both straight) told me how much he meant to me and I told him how he has been there for me even at my darkest moments
I have told him that sober a dozen times. But when we were rolling he grabbed me by the face and kissed me on the cheek. Then we hugged. It was pretty damn touching. I was talking with my other friend who is a male bisexual and I feel that if I were rolling balls with any of my closer circle of friends and they just grabbed my face and started making out with me, I would feel 100% comfortable with that
I never have overt gay thoughts, but I was wondering if anyone else here has had homoerotic or homosexual type thoughts on MDMA?
EDIT: Anyone had a gay experience on MDMA?
Edited by topdog82 (01/07/17 08:31 PM)
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Re: gay thoughts on MDMA? [Re: topdog82] 1
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accepting it and being sexually aroused by it are two different things.
if it arouses you to participate in sexual acts with another man you are at minimum bi-sexual.
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Idk so much pressure, what should I do?
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#23991269 - 01/07/17 11:08 PM (7 years, 23 days ago) |
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I never have overt gay thoughts
You sure about that?
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Na man that might just be it breaking down your inner wall. It opens people up so maybe you have those thoughts or feelings but resist them but when you take MDMA you don't care or they just go away.
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I've always been skeptical of the bisexuals. I feel like it's just a phase..
Never really see any older ones.
But yeah, OP, you might be gay.
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I never have overt gay thoughts
You sure about that?
Well to be clear it's not like I fantasize about banging men while jacking off. I def considered hooking up before. Ineber had a huge drive tho. It's definitely something I'll prolly do at some point
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Re: gay thoughts on MDMA? [Re: topdog82]
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I never have overt gay thoughts
You sure about that?
Thank fuck for Burke, he's like the Shroomery encylcopedia or something. Nothing slips by.
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Re: gay thoughts on MDMA? [Re: topdog82] 1
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Dude it's not gay thoughts lol it's called platonic affection and empathy.
Let me just say that again, PLATONIC
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Dude it's not gay thoughts lol it's called platonic affection and empathy.
Let me just say that again, PLATONIC
yeah best friends who are girls do this in public and its not at all seen as gay, however the thoughts you may have on the empathogen mdma probably were already there but the drugs just brought them out which is totally cool
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Yeah my point is just that it's not even sexual lol.
But I also don't think everything you experience while rolling is "true", Adam from PsychedeSubstance made a good point about this when he talked about how not everything you say while on MDMA is truly genuine and some of it is just due to you being intoxicated and feeling good.
The example he used was how you'll be talking to someone you just met and both are talking like you've known each other for years and you're telling each other how much you "love one another" but then when the MDMA wears off you realize that you don't want anything to do with this weird stranger.
Idk I've never personally had an experience like that because I don't set myself up for them but I can definitely see that being the case. I don't think all the affection and love you show while on a roll is actually genuine or intrinsic.
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Take enough M and you will start to understand these beautiful feelings are merely chemically induced impulses.
I used to love MDMA but I got pretty over it after a while. I tripped on acid a couple of times when other people were rolling, the whole love thing felt so fake to me
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Re: gay thoughts on MDMA? [Re: shadyy]
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i hate liz said: I've always been skeptical of the bisexuals. I feel like it's just a phase..
Never really see any older ones.
that's because they usually settle for one sex. lol, you don't know how things work. bisexual doesn't mean you have sex with two sexes always....
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I have rolled on MDMA many times and have never had any attraction to my male friends. I hug my male friends occasionally because they're like brothers, for example if I'm leaving my friends house after sitting and smoking for several hours, we'll casually hug each other as I'm walking out the door and say something like, "peace man." Then I go home. 
But it's not like we sit around hugging each other on MDMA. If I saw one of my guy friends on MDMA, I probably wouldn't hug them more times than I would if I was sober..I've certainly never thought about kissing any of them, and I certainly hope they've never thought about kissing me.
If you have these impulses, maybe you're bisexual and should explore them. Do what makes you feel happy.
If you try it and it doesn't work out for you, then you know you don't like men.
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Re: gay thoughts on MDMA? [Re: Tripsurfer]
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Tripsurfer said: I used to love MDMA but I got pretty over it after a while. I tripped on acid a couple of times when other people were rolling, the whole love thing felt so fake to me
Dang, it feels fake to me even when I witness that stuff while sober, I couldn't imagine how fake and cringy it would be to see on acid. I've never really been too keen on MDMA, not to mention it's already lost its magic for me and I haven't even used it that much. Even when it had that "magic" though I never really felt too head over heels for it. I always thought it was fairly overrated.
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Dang, it feels fake to me even when I witness that stuff while sober, I couldn't imagine how fake and cringy it would be to see on acid. I've never really been too keen on MDMA, not to mention it's already lost its magic for me and I haven't even used it that much. Even when it had that "magic" though I never really felt too head over heels for it. I always thought it was fairly overrated.
very strange. MDMA has helped me see my emotions clearly. Right below DMT for me in its value
But ya maybe I am just subconciously bisexual. And the MDMA is an excuse to let these thoughts lose
I need to hookup with a dude already lol
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Re: gay thoughts on MDMA? [Re: topdog82] 1
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topdog82 said: Last time I rolled, my male friend (we are both straight) told me how much he meant to me and I told him how he has been there for me even at my darkest moments
I have told him that sober a dozen times. But when we were rolling he grabbed me by the face and kissed me on the cheek. Then we hugged. It was pretty damn touching. I was talking with my other friend who is a male bisexual and I feel that if I were rolling balls with any of my closer circle of friends and they just grabbed my face and started making out with me, I would feel 100% comfortable with that
I never have overt gay thoughts, but I was wondering if anyone else here has had homoerotic or homosexual type thoughts on MDMA?
EDIT: Anyone had a gay experience on MDMA?
You are gay. Just come to terms with it man
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Re: gay thoughts on MDMA? [Re: topdog82]
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topdog82 said: very strange. MDMA has helped me see my emotions clearly. Right below DMT for me in its value
But ya maybe I am just subconciously bisexual. And the MDMA is an excuse to let these thoughts lose
I need to hookup with a dude already lol
Hmm ya MDMA was just a recreational experience for me I didn't really learn anything from it or find it healing at all. I think it has the potential to do that but I think only with that intent and probably in a therapeutic setting, I don't think that healing is intrinsically within the experience like it is with mushrooms. MDMA never cut through my ego, even weed could do that from time to time but not M. Plus MD still has that amphetamine vibe to me so ya it's not that appealing.
Also you sound bi dude. I don't think there's as such thing as "subconsciously bi" either. If you're thinking to yourself you need to hook up with a guy or try it out or are even remotely considering it then you are bi.
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topdog82 said: Last time I rolled, my male friend (we are both straight) told me how much he meant to me and I told him how he has been there for me even at my darkest moments
I have told him that sober a dozen times. But when we were rolling he grabbed me by the face and kissed me on the cheek. Then we hugged. It was pretty damn touching. I was talking with my other friend who is a male bisexual and I feel that if I were rolling balls with any of my closer circle of friends and they just grabbed my face and started making out with me, I would feel 100% comfortable with that
I never have overt gay thoughts, but I was wondering if anyone else here has had homoerotic or homosexual type thoughts on MDMA?
EDIT: Anyone had a gay experience on MDMA?
You are gay. Just come to terms with it man
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Re: gay thoughts on MDMA? [Re: my3rdeye]
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haha how would I be bi? Never kissed a man or touched a dick. Never been turned on by the thought of touching a dick. I am open to it though. Thats being open lol
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Re: gay thoughts on MDMA? [Re: topdog82]
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no, topdog. here is the box. get in.
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Re: gay thoughts on MDMA? [Re: topdog82]
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topdog82 said: haha how would I be bi? Never kissed a man or touched a dick. Never been turned on by the thought of touching a dick. I am open to it though. Thats being open lol
No... If you're still open to it you are most definitely not heterosexual.
Everyone's on a spectrum so not all gay people are equally as gay as each other and this also applies to straight and bi people. Some bi people greatly prefer one gender over the other but that other gender can still arouse them.
Chances are if sexual activities with another man doesn't disgust you at least in some way then you are probably bisexual. Straight people are not "open" to trying stuff like that with the same sex it doesn't work that way. Now some straight women do but that's only because it's been proven that for whatever reason a woman's sexuality is more flexible than a man's.
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OP passively aggressively tells us he is gay then we tell him hes gay and hes all like "no i am not gay"
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topdog82 said: haha how would I be bi? Never kissed a man or touched a dick. Never been turned on by the thought of touching a dick. I am open to it though. Thats being open lol
No... If you're still open to it you are most definitely not heterosexual.
LOL
no. heterosexuality means "a person who is sexually attracted to people of the opposite sex".
thus if you are attracted to the opposite sex, you're a heterosexual.
lol, seeing a bunch of apes try and figure out sexuality is funny as shit.
you like men and women, people are like "duur i'm so confused!"
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Connoisseur said: accepting it and being sexually aroused by it are two different things.
if it arouses you to participate in sexual acts with another man you are at minimum bi-sexual.
That's basically what I was going to say.
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topdog82 said: haha how would I be bi? Never kissed a man or touched a dick. Never been turned on by the thought of touching a dick. I am open to it though. Thats being open lol
No... If you're still open to it you are most definitely not heterosexual.
LOL
no. heterosexuality means "a person who is sexually attracted to people of the opposite sex".
thus if you are attracted to the opposite sex, you're a heterosexual.
lol, seeing a bunch of apes try and figure out sexuality is funny as shit.
you like men and women, people are like "duur i'm so confused!"
No..heterosexual means not being attracted to the same sex. So if you question that then you are NOT heterosexual
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akira_akuma said: lol, seeing a bunch of apes try and figure out sexuality is funny as shit.
How ironic
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it's not ironic. i'm not an ape.
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only the highest. the most high.
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idgaf what you guys wanna call me. I was just wondering if other men thought about kissing other men while rolling and got those gay vibes? That was the point of this thread. i could care less what I call myself
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Re: gay thoughts on MDMA? [Re: topdog82]
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well, people seem very concerned with what you are called.
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op likes it in the butt
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Quit projecting
Also perhaps bottomdog might... We will see
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just fuckin around
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akira_akuma said: well, people seem very concerned with what you are called.
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akira_akuma said: well, people seem very concerned with what you are called.
Try harder
meh, i can say the same to you. you try harder...you try harder to nail his sexuality down. keep going. i know it's very important to you.
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Keep telling yourself that.
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that's not something i'm telling myself. i'm telling you, that's what you're doing... no need to get offended over me pointing that out.
you're trying to pin down his sexuality...others are also doing so, they think it's like, clever, or something.
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I'll pin down your sexuality
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get your ectoplasmic skeleton fingers off me, Rube!
*smack* no, take me! take me! RAPE MEaggggggggg.....
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You're projecting, which is cute.
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not really. i'm just being clear. instead of addressing what OP is asking about, the thread quickly shifts to his orientation and whether it's real or not.
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Bill_Oreilly said: You are gay. Just come to terms with it man
and it goes on from there.
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Bill_Oreilly said: No..heterosexual means not being attracted to the same sex. So if you question that then you are NOT heterosexual
no, being heterosexual means you ARE attracted to the opposite sex. that's what heterosexual means. it doesn't mean "you are NOT attracted to the same sex".
it has to do with what sex you ARE attracted to...not which sex you're NOT attracted to.
but of course, that distinction is like ... a bombshell. logic...ouch my head!
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Instead of? Apparently you missed my first posts where I directly answered the OPs question. Where is it a rule that we can't talk about other things? Especially when they come up in conversation.
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no, i didn't miss it. you said some good shit. sorry that i didn't give your pat on the back for it. yeah...he's probably bi, or maybe it's just platonic...but what does it matter? people are trying to label him...whether it's just idle talk or not...it's S T U P I D. you don't need to be the head of the pack...you can though, if you want....
you just keep talking about nonsense.
OP feels intimately for a guy...it could be nothing. it could be he has sexual feelings for a guy. who cares. no one should give a fuck what he is, and just stop speculating. i'm sure, as he says, he doesn't care. so it's pointless to speculate.
his question is an easy answer. maybe he's bi, unless he was fooling himself for ever being with a girl to begin with- but what a stupid concern. either he is open sexually to be with both sexes, or he isn't. that's all that's relevant- that's all that should be relevant. not "what orientation" you can file him under. i know you weren't simply labelling him...but others were. i never said you were. so don't bother with that. you're just trying hard to pin it down. it's pointless and absentminded idiocy.
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akira_akuma said: he's probably bi, or maybe it's just platonic...but what does it matter? people are trying to label him...
Trying to label him? More like trying to correct him or at least trying to come to a logical consensus. I never told him what he is, he told me what he was an that was bisexual. He essentially described himself as bisexual.
Also I'm not insinuating he's bi because of his first post or whatever he does on MDMA it was in response to his statements on "needing to hook up with a guy".
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It's 2017, nobody cares if someone is gay today.
Transsexuals took all the attention away from homosexuals lately, so the OP can do whatever he wants now.
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i know what you said, your spiel isn't necessary.
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Dude it's not gay thoughts lol it's called platonic affection and empathy.
Let me just say that again, PLATONIC
that's SURELY not insinuating that he's got to take your word for things, that quote. nah. when you say "it's not gay thoughts, it's platonic, let's just say that again, PLATONIC", it's not insinuating that OP is just a confused individual.
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No... If you're still open to it you are most definitely not heterosexual.
which i addressed, i addressed the comment (which is also applicable here) to Bill, explaining how both of your reasoning is wrong. heterosexuality means you are ATTRACTED TO THE OPPOSITE SEX...as someone who later also says that he's "probably bi", you should understand that one can be able to be attracted to BOTH sexes, unless you just don't know what you mean by "bi".
i dunno, you tell me. you've got all the answers. 
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Transsexuals took all the attention away from homosexuals lately, so the OP can do whatever he wants now.
yeah, i can agree with that sentiment.
but people railing at OP about how "he's just gay, admit it" ... or whatever else...is just asinine.
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What the fuck are you even talking about at this point? Are you just really confused? My first post literally has nothing to do with my statements made to OP about his sexuality. My first post can literally not exist at all and my current point is still the same.
You seem to keep going back to the OP's original question about his thoughts on MDMA as if that even has anything to do with what we're talking about now and it doesn't...
You're acting like 2/3rds of this entire thread is just not relevant or just didn't happen.
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akira_akuma said: that's SURELY not insinuating that he's got to take your word for things, that quote. nah. when you say "it's not gay thoughts, it's platonic, let's just say that again, PLATONIC", it's not insinuating that OP is just a confused individual.
When did I say he shouldn't take my word for it? And no that's not insinuating that the OP is confused.
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"probably bi", you should understand that one can be able to be attracted to BOTH sexes, unless you just don't know what you mean by "bi".
Okay now I really think you're dumb.
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Re: gay thoughts on MDMA? [Re: qman]
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qman said: It's 2017, nobody cares if someone is gay today.
Transsexuals took all the attention away from homosexuals lately, so the OP can do whatever he wants now.
LOL
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AuroraBorealis88 said: When did I say he shouldn't take my word for it? And no that's not insinuating that the OP is confused.
i never said you said you did. but it sure was a pretty sure-fire response. it was a good response, actually. but you're still doing like i said. maybe not as arrogantly. so you should be hap-hap-happy for that.
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Okay now I really think you're dumb.
why? for showing how your logic and understanding of words and meanings are flawed?
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qman said: It's 2017, nobody cares if someone is gay today.
Transsexuals took all the attention away from homosexuals lately, so the OP can do whatever he wants now.
LOL
but if you didn't have those transsexuals stealing all your hate-light...then shit, well who knows what you could have been...maybe strung up on a tree? who knows. you might wanna think of thanking Qman, for the folksy wisdom.
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Well you're basically saying I don't know what bisexual means and you said "both of your reasoning is wrong" so I assumed you meant me as well.
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No... If you're still open to it you are most definitely not heterosexual.
^ you don't know what heterosexual means or what heterosexuality is. apparently, according to this quote. just the same as Bill.
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Re: gay thoughts on MDMA? [Re: topdog82]
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Never had gay thoughts on MDMA even though I have felt a connection/bond with certain friends I would of never imagined was possible, only time I can ever recall having anything that would remotely be considered gay thoughts was on LSD which sent me spiraling into a bad trip for the whole night.
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Nope, you're the one doesn't know what these words mean apparently. Learn and come back to me.
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Thanks for proving my point?
Retard?
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you're still like durr i don't know what's goin' on!
i love how confused people are. it's astounding but hilarious.
but no. alas, no, not retard, not "thanks for proving my point" but more like "boy, i'm retarded, i can't see that there is no stipulation for having any sexual feelings for the same sex that would exclude me from me from being deemed a heterosexual person, huh, boy, so you can be heterosexual and still be bi; whoa, i didn't know. i thought it all was so simple- guess i can't label people so easily."
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Keep projecting. Cutie
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lol, that ain't projection, you're mistaking inflated arrogance for projection. but yeah, you still are either confused, or don't want to admit how wrong you are.
wahh wahh wahh
but yeah...you can be heterosexual and still be homosexual. it's called being "bi-sexual". i know, it's...new...you can thank me later for correcting your ill-found presumptions of what the word Heterosexual means later.
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Lmfao
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Amanita86 said: Do you ever get tired of being the smartest person on earth? Cuz I know I do..
look, people just need to stop being retarded for the sake of acting like a retard. get something better to do.
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Lmfao
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Is this the face you make when you're being smart
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no. smart? wow is that a new insult? that smarts.
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Well you guys definitely stole the OP's thread....regardless of that...heterosexual means simply you have a like for the opposite sex....according to the Merriam-Webster dictionary There is no other interpretation left to ponder if you read the clear and descriptive meaning of the word. So....if there is a liking for the same sex...that clearly would not fit in with the heterosexual definition.
Why the fuck do either of you care so much though? I think you should heterosexually kiss and make up
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no. it's so funny, you came right out with the very thing you can't comprehend...'cause...i dunno, man, sometimes i think people are genuinely incapable of logical thought.
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heterosexual means simply you have a like for the opposite sex
correct.
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There is no other interpretation left to ponder if you read the clear and descriptive meaning of the word.
incorrect. it's worded the way it's worded for a reason.
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So....if there is a liking for the same sex...that clearly would not fit in with the heterosexual definition.
incorrect.
i think the word you're looking for what would colloquially, here, should be known as "straight".
you can be homosexual and heterosexual. there is nothing in descriptors of heterosexuality that denies one the ability to also be attracted to the same sex, as well. not even in the definition you claim says otherwise, actually, what it says is "you are attracted to the opposite sex."
there is no mention of the inability to also be attracted elsewise.
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Maybe its not everyone else that's not capable of logical thought....maybe its you....but just to humor you..."logically" what other interpretation is possible....its a less than one sentence description....that says you are heterosexual if you are attracted to the opposite sex....that's literally all it says...pretty cut and dry.
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And my vocabulary is just fine...I need no help from you finding the words I need to explain what I am talking about lol...you drunk bro?
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you are heterosexual if you are attracted to the opposite sex. you are heterosexual if you are attracted to the opposite sex, but bisexual as well, if you also are homosexual.
you are incapable of logic if you need to be explained what is in front of you, and coming out of your own mouth.
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The Influence said: And my vocabulary is just fine...I need no help from you finding the words I need to explain what I am talking about lol...you drunk bro?
are you?
you seem it. you can't even comprehend what's going on. you think after "being attracted to the opposite sex" there should be a stipulation, "but not if you're interested in anything else"?
because there isn't one.
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Heterosexual, bi-sexual, and homosexual all have completely different definitions in the dictionary.
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Re: gay thoughts on MDMA? [Re: topdog82]
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topdog82 said: Last time I rolled, my male friend (we are both straight) told me how much he meant to me and I told him how he has been there for me even at my darkest moments
I have told him that sober a dozen times. But when we were rolling he grabbed me by the face and kissed me on the cheek. Then we hugged. It was pretty damn touching. I was talking with my other friend who is a male bisexual and I feel that if I were rolling balls with any of my closer circle of friends and they just grabbed my face and started making out with me, I would feel 100% comfortable with that
I never have overt gay thoughts, but I was wondering if anyone else here has had homoerotic or homosexual type thoughts on MDMA?
EDIT: Anyone had a gay experience on MDMA?
Yes
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The Influence said: Heterosexual, bi-sexual, and homosexual all have completely different definitions in the dictionary.
yes, and? that's not an argument, as Stephan would say. 

bisexual means being both hetero and homo...how can your brain not grasp this concept...or anyone elses' brain, for that matter?
how can simple brevity be so confusing to people?
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Honestly, it's a confusing concept for me, too. I'm gay no matter who I sleep with. Bisexuality doesn't seem to exist for me. It's just gay or gayer.
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that's because they are labels to something that cannot be solely identified. you need, as it were, "two to tango", at the very least. meaning, there is only some consensus as to what sexuality "is", at hand...that doesn't mean it's confirmed.
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lol ya man...its everyone else who can't grasp the concept...definitely not you with your infinite wisdom. You can go to sleep tonight knowing you are smarter than the rest of the world and at any moment will transcend to a god like being...or maybe you already did...which would explain your condescending non-sense... Anyways this has nothing to do with the OP's question, and since I can't relate to any of his feelings while on MDMA myself I will move on...
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Bahahaha, yes. A three-way joke. It's not gay if it's in a three way
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The Influence said: lol ya man...its everyone else who can't grasp the concept...definitely not you with your infinite wisdom. You can go to sleep tonight knowing you are smarter than the rest of the world and at any moment will transcend to a god like being...or maybe you already did...which would explain your condescending non-sense... Anyways this has nothing to do with the OP's question, and since I can't relate to any of his feelings while on MDMA myself I will move on...
don't cry now. you think if i was to say "you're hetero", you are excluded from being a homo? that's just your predilection. the words are defined as such they are because sexuality does not confine itself. but you probably, at least subconsciously, think it should. most people do. maybe you don't, i dunno, but you seem as confused as most.
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sexuality is all like namby pamby "ohh i wanna belong" bull-poop.
except onanism...that's a beautiful...beautiful thing.
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You mean belong as in "this person belongs inside of me" or vice versa?
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no, as in...i need to control/be controlled.
man, people are strange. they argue about everything being so tightly controlled on the one hand, and then complain when they can't be in control.
no wonder there are so many genders these days. or so many people...or so much pent up revulsion...and murders/rapes/ect...
crimes.
buildings.
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bisexual means being both hetero and homo...
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^ bi-sexual means you are attracted to BOTH sexes.
heterosexual means you are attracted to the OPPOSITE sex.
homosexual means you are attracted to the SAME sex.
if you (and others) can't comprehend that. i suggest either a bridge to weep for humanity over, or just pick up a dictionary and do the math.
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akira_akuma said: ^ bi-sexual means you are attracted to BOTH sexes.
heterosexual means you are attracted to the OPPOSITE sex.
homosexual means you are attracted to the SAME sex.
if you (and others) can't comprehend that. i suggest either a bridge to weep for humanity over, or just pick up a dictionary and do the math.
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akira_akuma said: ^ bi-sexual means you are attracted to BOTH sexes.
heterosexual means you are attracted to the OPPOSITE sex.
homosexual means you are attracted to the SAME sex.
if you (and others) can't comprehend that. i suggest either a bridge to weep for humanity over, or just pick up a dictionary and do the math.

thank God, now if only the rest of the dorks who can't understand what's placed in front of them do the same.
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akira_akuma said: ^ bi-sexual means you are attracted to BOTH sexes.
heterosexual means you are attracted to the OPPOSITE sex.
homosexual means you are attracted to the SAME sex.
if you (and others) can't comprehend that. i suggest either a bridge to weep for humanity over, or just pick up a dictionary and do the math.

thank God, now if only the rest of the dorks who can't understand what's placed in front of them do the same.
You silly fuck...thats exactly what I was saying and you argue and argue. I simply said heterosexual means you like the opposite sex and you told me I was wrong. 70,000 posts and this is what you do with most of them. You argue with people that are saying the same thing you are...
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Re: gay thoughts on MDMA? [Re: psi]
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it's really simple. if you're attracted to the same sex as you, you're gay.
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you didn't say that. you said this load of malarky
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heterosexual means simply you have a like for the opposite sex....according to the Merriam-Webster dictionary There is no other interpretation left to ponder if you read the clear and descriptive meaning of the word. So....if there is a liking for the same sex...that clearly would not fit in with the heterosexual definition.
see how what you said ^ here
is not what you said
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^ here
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Lol, this thread. What kind of masochists log in here to argue semantics with Akira? Is that enjoyable? Between this and the hoodrats/being an idiot thing, like 90% of his posts are arguments about semantics these days.
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Burke Dennings said: Lol, this thread. What kind of masochists log in here to argue semantics with Akira? Is that enjoyable? Between this and the hoodrats/being an idiot thing, like 90% of his posts are arguments about semantics these days.
people just never learn.
but yeah. saying someone is heterosexual doesn't exclude them from also potentially, at least, being homosexual. it's funny how little comprehension people have of that nuance in semantics.
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The Influence said: You silly fuck...thats exactly what I was saying and you argue and argue. I simply said heterosexual means you like the opposite sex and you told me I was wrong. 70,000 posts and this is what you do with most of them. You argue with people that are saying the same thing you are...
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The Influence said: Well you guys definitely stole the OP's thread....regardless of that...heterosexual means simply you have a like for the opposite sex....according to the Merriam-Webster dictionary There is no other interpretation left to ponder if you read the clear and descriptive meaning of the word. So....if there is a liking for the same sex...that clearly would not fit in with the heterosexual definition.
The definition you gave is still satisfied when a person is attracted to both sexes. It would not be satisfied only when a person was not attracted to the opposite sex (e.g. they are attracted exclusively to the same sex, or they aren't attracted to anyone). If I define an "apple-liker" as someone who likes apples, anyone who likes apples satisfies the definition. Liking additional things, or not, makes no difference to whether or not the definition is satisfied.
If instead the definition said "exclusively attracted to the opposite sex", (and probably you could find a dictionary that does contain such a definition, since it seems a lot of English speakers use the word in this way), that definition would not be satisfied if a person was attracted to both sexes.
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Re: gay thoughts on MDMA? [Re: psi]
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So what would you call a person that likes both sexes? In my reasoning that would be bi-sexual. It seems silly to call them a heterosexual-homosexual when bi-sexual sums it up. IMO anyways...
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I would say bisexual makes the most sense. Did anyone actually advocate saying "heterosexual-homosexual" though?
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heterosexual means simply you have a like for the opposite sex
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I simply said heterosexual means you like the opposite sex
How is this not saying the same thing? I agree there are subtle differences if you want to get linguistic about it (simply means, vs simply said) but the gist is pretty fucking similar imo
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Re: gay thoughts on MDMA? [Re: Tripsurfer] 1
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Those are both saying the same thing. That's not the distinction Akira was making.
Most English speakers understand "heterosexual" as referring to someone who is attracted to the opposite sex, and who is not attracted to the same sex.
Both Akira and The Influence produced definitions that just talk about being attracted to the opposite sex, but that don't say anything about being attracted only to the opposite sex.
The Influence argued that "if there is a liking for the same sex...that clearly would not fit in with the heterosexual definition", but this position isn't really supported by his own favored definition of "heterosexual" (or Akira's, which is effectively equivalent).
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Re: gay thoughts on MDMA? [Re: psi]
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Most English speakers understand "heterosexual" as referring to someone who is attracted to the opposite sex, and who is not attracted to the same sex.
Both Akira and The Influence produced definitions that just talk about being attracted to the opposite sex, but that don't say anything about being attracted only to the opposite sex.
The Influence argued that "if there is a liking for the same sex...that clearly would not fit in with the heterosexual definition", but this position isn't really supported by his own favored definition of "heterosexual" (or Akira's, which is effectively equivalent).
diggety. if people want to resort to defining things, well, things need consensus for any definitions to hold any water and make sense overall.
otherwise we could just say Jabberwocky, and say that that's so and so's sexual preferences. Jabberwocky, or Flim-Flam...oh shit, turns out these terms have been defined. yet, they are nonsense terms. lol, more to my point. you need consensus to create linguistic meaning.
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The improvement experienced by this thread from the first to the sixth page is conspicuous, to say the least.
As an aside, had anybody here had straight thoughts on MDMA?
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yes, but then i was like "too long".
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So akira, how much alcohol did your mother drink when she was pregnant with you?
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she was never much of a drinker. the question should be how baked was my mom when she was pregnant with me.
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You remind me of Sheldon from The Big Bang Theory but much more annoying. I say that with love. (No bi or homo)
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Re: gay thoughts on MDMA? [Re: Amanita86]
#24002489 - 01/11/17 09:39 PM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
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He reminds me more of Trump.
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