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akira_akuma
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Burke Dennings said: Lol, this thread. What kind of masochists log in here to argue semantics with Akira? Is that enjoyable? Between this and the hoodrats/being an idiot thing, like 90% of his posts are arguments about semantics these days.
people just never learn.
but yeah. saying someone is heterosexual doesn't exclude them from also potentially, at least, being homosexual. it's funny how little comprehension people have of that nuance in semantics.
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psi
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The Influence said: You silly fuck...thats exactly what I was saying and you argue and argue. I simply said heterosexual means you like the opposite sex and you told me I was wrong. 70,000 posts and this is what you do with most of them. You argue with people that are saying the same thing you are...
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The Influence said: Well you guys definitely stole the OP's thread....regardless of that...heterosexual means simply you have a like for the opposite sex....according to the Merriam-Webster dictionary There is no other interpretation left to ponder if you read the clear and descriptive meaning of the word. So....if there is a liking for the same sex...that clearly would not fit in with the heterosexual definition.
The definition you gave is still satisfied when a person is attracted to both sexes. It would not be satisfied only when a person was not attracted to the opposite sex (e.g. they are attracted exclusively to the same sex, or they aren't attracted to anyone). If I define an "apple-liker" as someone who likes apples, anyone who likes apples satisfies the definition. Liking additional things, or not, makes no difference to whether or not the definition is satisfied.
If instead the definition said "exclusively attracted to the opposite sex", (and probably you could find a dictionary that does contain such a definition, since it seems a lot of English speakers use the word in this way), that definition would not be satisfied if a person was attracted to both sexes.
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Re: gay thoughts on MDMA? [Re: psi]
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So what would you call a person that likes both sexes? In my reasoning that would be bi-sexual. It seems silly to call them a heterosexual-homosexual when bi-sexual sums it up. IMO anyways...
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psi
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I would say bisexual makes the most sense. Did anyone actually advocate saying "heterosexual-homosexual" though?
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heterosexual means simply you have a like for the opposite sex
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I simply said heterosexual means you like the opposite sex
How is this not saying the same thing? I agree there are subtle differences if you want to get linguistic about it (simply means, vs simply said) but the gist is pretty fucking similar imo
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psi
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Re: gay thoughts on MDMA? [Re: Tripsurfer] 1
#24001552 - 01/11/17 03:30 PM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
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Those are both saying the same thing. That's not the distinction Akira was making.
Most English speakers understand "heterosexual" as referring to someone who is attracted to the opposite sex, and who is not attracted to the same sex.
Both Akira and The Influence produced definitions that just talk about being attracted to the opposite sex, but that don't say anything about being attracted only to the opposite sex.
The Influence argued that "if there is a liking for the same sex...that clearly would not fit in with the heterosexual definition", but this position isn't really supported by his own favored definition of "heterosexual" (or Akira's, which is effectively equivalent).
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akira_akuma
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Re: gay thoughts on MDMA? [Re: psi]
#24001712 - 01/11/17 04:41 PM (7 years, 19 days ago) |
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Most English speakers understand "heterosexual" as referring to someone who is attracted to the opposite sex, and who is not attracted to the same sex.
Both Akira and The Influence produced definitions that just talk about being attracted to the opposite sex, but that don't say anything about being attracted only to the opposite sex.
The Influence argued that "if there is a liking for the same sex...that clearly would not fit in with the heterosexual definition", but this position isn't really supported by his own favored definition of "heterosexual" (or Akira's, which is effectively equivalent).
diggety. if people want to resort to defining things, well, things need consensus for any definitions to hold any water and make sense overall.
otherwise we could just say Jabberwocky, and say that that's so and so's sexual preferences. Jabberwocky, or Flim-Flam...oh shit, turns out these terms have been defined. yet, they are nonsense terms. lol, more to my point. you need consensus to create linguistic meaning.
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The improvement experienced by this thread from the first to the sixth page is conspicuous, to say the least.
As an aside, had anybody here had straight thoughts on MDMA?
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akira_akuma
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yes, but then i was like "too long".
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AuroraBorealis88
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So akira, how much alcohol did your mother drink when she was pregnant with you?
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akira_akuma
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she was never much of a drinker. the question should be how baked was my mom when she was pregnant with me.
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You remind me of Sheldon from The Big Bang Theory but much more annoying. I say that with love. (No bi or homo)
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Re: gay thoughts on MDMA? [Re: Amanita86]
#24002489 - 01/11/17 09:39 PM (7 years, 18 days ago) |
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He reminds me more of Trump.
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