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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: shadyy] * 2
    #23989556 - 01/07/17 01:21 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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i hate liz said:
Well he pretty much threatened to shut down the site in response to someone attacking his "restrictive behavior."





That's pretty much not at all what I said, and you know it, you just gloat at the prospect of me trying to exsplain why your nonsense is nonsense.

This technique is part of what kills the fun in debate in The Pub.

People are not true blue sincere anymore. They just screw around with people until they quit or until the the walking dead starts again.

Its an attitude. You don't discuss this way with someone you consider a close friend or with your mom.
Cantankerous rhetoric. Not intended to open your mind or anothers, just to annoy and obstruct.


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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: shadyy] * 2
    #23989557 - 01/07/17 01:22 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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i hate liz said:
Well he pretty much threatened to shut down the site in response to someone attacking his "restrictive behavior."

I mean, we can call it whatever you want. But it seems as if he just said that it would be more out of spite as opposed to reservation.



no. to any onlooker, one can see that A: Asante has held his tongue on the state of shroomery affairs long enough, and now he's said something he's seemingly wanted to say for awhile now...and B: he didn't threaten to shut down the site...he asked a rhetorical question.

that's a big difference.

see this is the problem with the "anti-PC" ideology...some guy goes against the grain and says that he thinks the terminology being used is shady, at best, and then you have like a handful of people jump down that persons throat saying they aren't allowed to police language.

the hypocrisy is astounding. not that i blame anyone for being sucked into it...'cept that i totally do. it's all outrage. all political outrage.

the shroomery WAS supposed to be a place to escape the tortures of the damned, and it should be. both the PC and anti-PC haranguing is not needed here.

the hypocrisy makes that impossible, however.

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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: Asante]
    #23989566 - 01/07/17 01:25 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Staff withdraws, Admins call it a day, Site Gone.

Simple enough?




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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: shadyy]
    #23989569 - 01/07/17 01:26 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

you're misquoting him. just like he said you would.

why don't you add the whole quote in there?

Quote:


Nobody likes "the man" but you guys treat mods and admins as if they're less then zero.
Staff withdraws, Admins call it a day, Site Gone.

Simple enough?



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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: shadyy]
    #23989570 - 01/07/17 01:26 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid




This sounds ironically similar to my experiences in this thread. Bye guys.


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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23989575 - 01/07/17 01:27 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I don't see how that shifts it from a threat to a rhetorical question.


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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: akira_akuma] * 3
    #23989576 - 01/07/17 01:27 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Ok.

Asante, I think you're a nancy boy.

My claim is based on the following:

1.  You are in a position of authority.
2.  You are privileged with the ability to police the forums.
3.  You are targeting language and you are in a position of authority.
4.  From 1,2, and 3: a reason the word seems to have meaning to you could be because you see it as a  potential call to duty. 
5. You are speaking for a hypothetical group of people.  That group is "those who would be done special harm by hearing a specific term uttered about a specific set of individuals in a specific case and having nothing to do with them personally."
6.  Those supporting you also speak for this hypothetical group.
7.  No actual member of this group has stepped forward and said "Use of that term does me special harm."ac
8.  You presume to know that the best treatment for that hypothetical condition would be for them not to hear such language.
9.  From 4-8,  you are acting for a reason that is undetermined, but that serves no one involved.
10.  If number 4 is the only other reason then we can conclude from item 9 that you are actually identifying targets and justifying them as targets. 
11.  This behavior is often apparent in little girls who hear someone use a bad word.
14.  Nancy boy is a word used to describe an individual of #13.

Conclusion: From 10 and 14, you are acting like a nancy boy.




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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: Senor_Doobie] * 3
    #23989584 - 01/07/17 01:32 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

It's worse than when sophistic_radiance starts a dumpster fire in a gender thread, implodes, melts, explodes, and gets the thread locked and people get banned. Why do so many people around here create their own problems to cause themselves grief?

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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: Adden]
    #23989599 - 01/07/17 01:41 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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i hate liz said:
I don't see how that shifts it from a threat to a rhetorical question.



he said "treat the mods like shit for having an opinion" and then said "would you rather there be no administration".

that's a rhetorical question. he's saying "i'd rather be able to share my opinion without being shit on for it, instead i get shit on for it; and what do i get out of it?"

but you don't have to "see" anything. most functioning is done without sight, clearly. if you can call that functioning, that is.

Quote:

Adden said:
It's worse than when sophistic_radiance starts a dumpster fire in a gender thread, implodes, melts, explodes, and gets the thread locked and people get banned. Why do so many people around here create their own problems to cause themselves grief?



she's been banned for her conflagrations.

people have also been banned for entering said "gender thread" just to shit it up with comments that show no knowledge on the subject, then when they get told actual information, they continue to shit it up some more and insist that they are informed by their rhetoric when in fact they are diametrically opposed to the informed facts of the matter.

happens all the time. it's called thinking your right about nonsense you created for yourself. that is indeed what it's called.

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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23989602 - 01/07/17 01:42 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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3.  You are targeting language and you are in a position of authority.




he is not allowed to have an opinion on language because he's an authority? he hasn't even used his authority...he just left. :shrug:

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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23989609 - 01/07/17 01:46 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

That's not the full statement.


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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: Senor_Doobie] * 1
    #23989615 - 01/07/17 01:50 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

i'll take that into consideration:

Quote:

  Those supporting you also speak for this hypothetical group.




also, not true. i'm supporting Asante. i don't even necessarily agree with his point of view on his particular word here, hoodrat, but i do support his ability to share his opinion without being told to "take his PC bullshit out of here".

:shrug:

let's continue to break down your statement.

Quote:

11.  This behavior is often apparent in little girls who hear someone use a bad word.
14.  Nancy boy is a word used to describe an individual of #13.

Conclusion: From 10 and 14, you are acting like a nancy boy.




well, there wasn't much....

yeah, he didn't berate anyone here for using the word "hoodrat" did he?

he didn't tell anyone to do anything...did he?

no, he didn't.
he just wanted to discuss the purpose behind the word being used, and through that discussion, an argument ensues, trying to determine whether Asante should just "get his PC bullshit out of here"; while Asante tries to figure out why no one can comprehend the notion that hood rat has a distinct connection to the belittling of people, whom on the heights of a populist regime, were belittled even further, because they were insinuated upon already by the majority.

he wants to discuss...you all want him to silence himself.

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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23989618 - 01/07/17 01:51 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Why dn't you do it all in one post.


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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: Senor_Doobie] * 5
    #23989621 - 01/07/17 01:53 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I think the big issue with this case is that these young adults found nothing wrong with abusing this person and streaming it live over the internet.

I honestly don't think these young adults were horrible people before that day, somehow getting popular over social media made them abandon any moral consciousness, that's very disturbing.

I'm sure their family members are just as stunned with their behavior, it's a sad day when these young adults miss the big picture and do something like this, I'm sure they're in jail today wondering to themselves, "what did I do and why did we do it?".

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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #23989625 - 01/07/17 01:56 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Senor_Doobie said:
Why dn't you do it all in one post.



i'm sporadic. i honestly am distracted with this right now, i'd rather be doing something else.

this confusion ultimately is the biggest distraction i've ever come across in my life. it never gets resolved. everyone insists that everyone else has just gotta work in the exact same way as everyone else, or else, "the other" be damned. :shrug: it's nonsense, that just never seems to be able to get cracked.

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qman said:
I think the big issue with this case is that these young adults found nothing wrong with abusing this person and streaming it live over the internet.

I honestly don't think these young adults were horrible people before that day, somehow getting popular over social media made them abandon any moral consciousness, that's very disturbing.

I'm sure their family members are just as stunned with their behavior, it's a sad day when these young adults miss the big picture and do something like this, I'm sure they're in jail today wondering to themselves, "what did I do and why did we do it?".



yeah, good post. really good post. it is fucked how they are so desensitized that they'll livestream it, like...how desensitized and idiotic can people get to do something like that.

BLM is really really in need of a major public abjuration of these kinds of a attacks...will they say anything though, probably not. it's stupid.

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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: qman]
    #23989630 - 01/07/17 01:56 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Maybe.


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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23989644 - 01/07/17 02:00 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Maybe that's your interpretation of it, but I quoted what he said and that isn't it.


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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: qman]
    #23989646 - 01/07/17 02:02 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

qman said:
I think the big issue with this case is that these young adults found nothing wrong with abusing this person and streaming it live over the internet.

I honestly don't think these young adults were horrible people before that day, somehow getting popular over social media made them abandon any moral consciousness, that's very disturbing.

I'm sure their family members are just as stunned with their behavior, it's a sad day when these young adults miss the big picture and do something like this, I'm sure they're in jail today wondering to themselves, "what did I do and why did we do it?".



Good post


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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23989659 - 01/07/17 02:11 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

akira_akuma said:
Quote:

Senor_Doobie said:
Why dn't you do it all in one post.



i'm sporadic. i honestly am distracted with this right now, i'd rather be doing something else.

this confusion ultimately is the biggest distraction i've ever come across in my life. it never gets resolved. everyone insists that everyone else has just gotta work in the exact same way as everyone else, or else, "the other" be damned. :shrug: it's nonsense, that just never seems to be able to get cracked.

Quote:

qman said:
I think the big issue with this case is that these young adults found nothing wrong with abusing this person and streaming it live over the internet.

I honestly don't think these young adults were horrible people before that day, somehow getting popular over social media made them abandon any moral consciousness, that's very disturbing.

I'm sure their family members are just as stunned with their behavior, it's a sad day when these young adults miss the big picture and do something like this, I'm sure they're in jail today wondering to themselves, "what did I do and why did we do it?".



yeah, good post. really good post. it is fucked how they are so desensitized that they'll livestream it, like...how desensitized and idiotic can people get to do something like that.

BLM is really really in need of a major public abjuration of these kinds of a attacks...will they say anything though, probably not. it's stupid.




BLM doesn't need to say anything because I don't think this case is much about racial tensions, it's about some young adults losing basic commonsense for a few hours.

My guess is that they went to High Schools in a very rough part of Chicago where teasing and abusing other students was commonplace.

They saw other students beat up, tease, mental and physically abused other students everyday of their lives, and the perpetrators never suffered any ramifications for their abusive behavior.

I believe they all forgot they were now legal adults and they weren't in high school abusing the shit out of some nerd during lunch period. They're going to learn a very hard lesson for that forgetfulness.

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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: qman] * 1
    #23989663 - 01/07/17 02:15 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I agree it seems like a sad display of shitty environmental influences.
Im sure these kids have grown up in a hostile and unstable environment.


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