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Intelligence Exams to Qualify One to Create Theological Opinions
    #23988690 - 01/07/17 07:29 AM (7 years, 23 days ago)

Not everyone should be allowed to create an opinion on a subject matter so lofty, abstract, complex. How should we decide who can have an opinion on the subject and who can't?



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Re: Intelligence Exams to Qualify One to Create Theological Opinions [Re: WScott]
    #23988721 - 01/07/17 07:55 AM (7 years, 23 days ago)

Only the Free can form an opinion.
Are you Free?


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Re: Intelligence Exams to Qualify One to Create Theological Opinions [Re: WScott]
    #23988726 - 01/07/17 07:59 AM (7 years, 23 days ago)

Whether or not it stands up to scientific methods. Which is one reason theology and science are incompatible. It isn't always determined by formal education, but most of the time it is. Even James Clerk Maxwell wasn't educated. You better be really good though!


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Re: Intelligence Exams to Qualify One to Create Theological Opinions [Re: MikeTesserect]
    #23988763 - 01/07/17 08:22 AM (7 years, 23 days ago)

Really the question is who determines where the line is between entertainment and stress.


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Re: Intelligence Exams to Qualify One to Create Theological Opinions [Re: WScott] * 1
    #23988912 - 01/07/17 09:29 AM (7 years, 23 days ago)

Who polices opinions? And what intelligence exams are required to be passed in order for one to determine which intelligence exams are required to be passed to have an opinion... etc :smile: Ultimately it's all opinions! :smile:


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Re: Intelligence Exams to Qualify One to Create Theological Opinions [Re: deff]
    #23988949 - 01/07/17 09:39 AM (7 years, 23 days ago)

Is it the prerogative of an establishment to police itself?


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Re: Intelligence Exams to Qualify One to Create Theological Opinions [Re: WScott]
    #23989044 - 01/07/17 10:19 AM (7 years, 23 days ago)

bad idea - by raising the bar this legitimizes Theology beyond its merit:
you end up with a cadre of smarter foolishness.


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Re: Intelligence Exams to Qualify One to Create Theological Opinions [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23989115 - 01/07/17 10:43 AM (7 years, 23 days ago)

lol, being needy = being beaten in one's aspirations.


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Re: Intelligence Exams to Qualify One to Create Theological Opinions [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #23989327 - 01/07/17 11:50 AM (7 years, 23 days ago)

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lol, being needy = being beaten in one's aspirations.



not at all sure where this links in


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Re: Intelligence Exams to Qualify One to Create Theological Opinions [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23989352 - 01/07/17 12:00 PM (7 years, 23 days ago)

The desire of segregation foretells the doom of the enterprise, I guess.


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Re: Intelligence Exams to Qualify One to Create Theological Opinions [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #23989473 - 01/07/17 12:43 PM (7 years, 23 days ago)

so we are talking about theology and it no longer being an exclusive domain.


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Re: Intelligence Exams to Qualify One to Create Theological Opinions [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23989739 - 01/07/17 02:46 PM (7 years, 23 days ago)

Or we are formulating ideas on how the cards are stacked against anyone's pumpkin making it to the ball.


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Re: Intelligence Exams to Qualify One to Create Theological Opinions [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #23989774 - 01/07/17 03:00 PM (7 years, 23 days ago)

even if the prince brings you a well fitting slipper, chances are the relationship will crash after 3 months.


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Re: Intelligence Exams to Qualify One to Create Theological Opinions [Re: deff]
    #23990559 - 01/07/17 07:18 PM (7 years, 23 days ago)

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deff said:
Who polices opinions? And what intelligence exams are required to be passed in order for one to determine which intelligence exams are required to be passed to have an opinion... etc :smile: Ultimately it's all opinions! :smile:




I suppose the levity of your response is in part due to your awareness of my being quasi-sardonic in the original post.

Is the opinion of the time-wizened guru of more value (what currency?) than the "ignorant bigot" (whether he be somehow unaware of either the existence of or the lack of existence of a deity)? Is it proportionate all through the spectrum of human existence that every man shall, of his opinion of Things, share in equal potential for validity? Some men speak as if they truly Know of It but are they all Knowing the same thing?

I know not a man that could pass such an exam, anyhow. Could you?


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Re: Intelligence Exams to Qualify One to Create Theological Opinions [Re: WScott]
    #23990604 - 01/07/17 07:30 PM (7 years, 23 days ago)

Hmm I think the only exam we have to pass is the one within ourselves, in that it is very much an inner journey. Your question about if they all know the same thing makes me think of the question of if we all see the same red/blue/green/etc. Perhaps the instrument, the human being, is itself influential in the creation of the knowing, rather than the object of knowing being something objective and entirely isolated from subjective perception. If I like the colour red I see, does it matter if you see a different colour red? :smile:


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Re: Intelligence Exams to Qualify One to Create Theological Opinions [Re: deff]
    #23990643 - 01/07/17 07:41 PM (7 years, 23 days ago)



As communicated by your signature, I ask you where does that Love come from? Is that something which we should all share, which we should have a common understanding of?


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Re: Intelligence Exams to Qualify One to Create Theological Opinions [Re: WScott] * 1
    #23990675 - 01/07/17 07:50 PM (7 years, 23 days ago)

The love comes from within - projected out along with everything else we perceive. Two people in the same room can have very different experiences I imagine, as they project their experience of it differently. Likewise with the earth :smile: I don't know if we ever have a common understanding of love much like I don't know about red or blue. What I experience of love is quite beneficial and beautiful to me, and I have heard others say similar - so even if our loves are different, there is often a consensus that what we call love is worth pursuing.


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Re: Intelligence Exams to Qualify One to Create Theological Opinions [Re: deff]
    #23990712 - 01/07/17 07:57 PM (7 years, 23 days ago)

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The love comes from within - projected out along with everything else we perceive. Two people in the same room can have very different experiences I imagine, as they project their experience of it differently. Likewise with the earth :mad: I don't know if we ever have a common understanding of love much like I don't know about red or blue. What I experience of love is quite beneficial and beautiful to me, and I have heard others say similar - so even if our loves are different, there is often a consensus that what we call love is worth pursuing.




Can you elaborate on what I did not strike out?


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Re: Intelligence Exams to Qualify One to Create Theological Opinions [Re: WScott]
    #23990714 - 01/07/17 07:58 PM (7 years, 23 days ago)

To answer the OP: experience, and results


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Re: Intelligence Exams to Qualify One to Create Theological Opinions [Re: WScott] * 1
    #23990726 - 01/07/17 08:01 PM (7 years, 23 days ago)

that we (as in those with whom there is a consensus that what we each call love is something beautiful, even if we're each experiencing something different and just labelling it with the same word of 'love') would likewise find the experience that "love" points to (however different it is to each) worth pursuing.


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Re: Intelligence Exams to Qualify One to Create Theological Opinions [Re: djbluntmagic]
    #23990755 - 01/07/17 08:07 PM (7 years, 23 days ago)

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To answer the OP: experience, and results




The crazy man lives in the mountains and the Zen monk is in the asylum.


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Re: Intelligence Exams to Qualify One to Create Theological Opinions [Re: WScott] * 1
    #23990844 - 01/07/17 08:37 PM (7 years, 23 days ago)

All can have opinions but those whose opinions are verifiable, testable and repeatable should moreso be taken seriously. :imo:



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