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Who wraps their monos in black plastic?
    #23988654 - 01/07/17 06:54 AM (7 years, 23 days ago)

Hey everybody,

Here is a question that I've been thinking about for a few days. I have a great book "The Psilocybin mushroom bible" and it has a chapter on monotubs, which I used to build mine. FYI in my mono it's GT spawned to rye grain colonized to horse dung. Per the instruction in the book I wrapped the mono in black plastic, leaving the air exchange holes exposed, and then "set and forget it". After 10 days the surface is very welll colonized with lots of rhizomorphic growth. Pretty much 100%.

So- would it not be time to take the black plastic off and introduce more light? It seems logical but the book is vague on this part. Who uses black plastic wrap with their monos? Who does not?. What's your experience and result? I've seen it both ways. Any comments welcome thanks.


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Re: Who wraps their monos in black plastic? [Re: CapnZ]
    #23988656 - 01/07/17 06:57 AM (7 years, 23 days ago)

I should probably be more specific. I mean on the outside. I lined my mono with black plastic on the inside and totally get that part. I'm talking about wrapping the outside with black plastic. Thanks!


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Re: Who wraps their monos in black plastic? [Re: CapnZ] * 1
    #23988671 - 01/07/17 07:08 AM (7 years, 23 days ago)

You don't need to wrap the outside.
The liner prevents sidepins and makes it easier to clean the tub.


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Re: Who wraps their monos in black plastic? [Re: CapnZ]
    #23988674 - 01/07/17 07:13 AM (7 years, 23 days ago)

Some people use liners and some wrap the bottom to replace liners..

I think I read that chapter a while ago and I believe they spoke about wrapping the entire mono while it colonizes.. Then remove the bag, case and put the mono in fruiting conditions..

I fruit right at spawn now and it works wonders and cuts down on time.. I believe azur has a thread on it I'll try and find for you


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Re: Who wraps their monos in black plastic? [Re: keifnnugs]
    #23988680 - 01/07/17 07:19 AM (7 years, 23 days ago)

That would be great thanks! Yeah I took the wrap off after 10 days as the surface was really well colonized and in my estimation it's time to introduce light for pinning. Have it on 12/12... same light cycle that produced 600 grams wet from my last casing in an FC. This is my 1st mono.


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Re: Who wraps their monos in black plastic? [Re: CapnZ]
    #23988732 - 01/07/17 08:05 AM (7 years, 23 days ago)

I used to just to block out the light so I could just put everything on the bottom of the Rubbermaid ( without holes). Who would want to just abandon their grow or 10 days anyways. I would rather check up 3-4 times a day and give them FE.

Note: I meant for casings. The black plastic was wrapped around the bottom to meet the casing depth. It is just to block out light instead of using trays, that Im aware of.


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Re: Who wraps their monos in black plastic? [Re: MikeTesserect]
    #23988751 - 01/07/17 08:17 AM (7 years, 23 days ago)

Yeah when I did casings I fanned and misted. The mono is supposed to be less labor intensive. I didn't abandon the grow, I did monitor every few days. It looks really good so far.


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Re: Who wraps their monos in black plastic? [Re: CapnZ]
    #23988800 - 01/07/17 08:49 AM (7 years, 23 days ago)

you're reading outdated info capnz, read up on spitballjedi's the basic and frankhorrigans how i do my shit list.


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Re: Who wraps their monos in black plastic? [Re: CapnZ]
    #23988815 - 01/07/17 08:59 AM (7 years, 23 days ago)

I dont wrap mine in anything, i use a clear plastic liner inside the mono. imo that book is kind of whack, everything in it is on here for free. good luck with the GT!


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Re: Who wraps their monos in black plastic? [Re: spacechildo]
    #23988819 - 01/07/17 09:00 AM (7 years, 23 days ago)

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you're reading outdated info capnz, read up on spitballjedi's the basic and frankhorrigans how i do my shit list.




:whathesaid: that book sounds like it was written 10 years ago.


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Re: Who wraps their monos in black plastic? [Re: Pastywhyte] * 1
    #23988871 - 01/07/17 09:18 AM (7 years, 23 days ago)

No liners and clear tubs. And I have no problems.
That book is far from a Bible.
My advice, psilocybin mushroom cultivation books should be used for research of the history of growing. But not actually for growing


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Re: Who wraps their monos in black plastic? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23988888 - 01/07/17 09:22 AM (7 years, 23 days ago)

Ok thanks everybody I'll check those. I thought wrapping sounded whack. Hey Pasty the copy right on the book was 2016. Dr K Mandrake. What can I say - it was a Xmas present....the book. Anyway the mono tub is cruising along and looks really good so hoping for a nice harvest in a week or so.


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Re: Who wraps their monos in black plastic? [Re: CapnZ] * 1
    #23988892 - 01/07/17 09:23 AM (7 years, 23 days ago)

Shit I should write a book, couldn't be any worse than 99% of then out there.


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Re: Who wraps their monos in black plastic? [Re: Pastywhyte] * 1
    #23988896 - 01/07/17 09:24 AM (7 years, 23 days ago)

Just put doctor in front of your name


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Re: Who wraps their monos in black plastic? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23988899 - 01/07/17 09:25 AM (7 years, 23 days ago)

Dr. P. Whyte sounds pretty official :rofl:


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Re: Who wraps their monos in black plastic? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23988905 - 01/07/17 09:26 AM (7 years, 23 days ago)

wow, its published nov 2016 but is based off 1990s techniques in it... thats fucked! who's that dr. mandrake dude anyway?


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Re: Who wraps their monos in black plastic? [Re: spacechildo]
    #23988909 - 01/07/17 09:28 AM (7 years, 23 days ago)

Dr Andrew Wakefield. A not real doctor is responsible for the vaccination causes autism bullshit. He made it up and it's still being talked about to this day.


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Re: Who wraps their monos in black plastic? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23988948 - 01/07/17 09:39 AM (7 years, 23 days ago)

Well that explains a lot. I also downloaded RRs videos...think I'll go with that info and also look up some more info on here for monos. Like I said book was free, and apparently worth every penny....


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    #24335870 - 05/20/17 03:00 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

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    #24335901 - 05/20/17 03:15 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

That book is more of a paper weight


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Re: Who wraps their monos in black plastic? [Re: sudonym]
    #24335903 - 05/20/17 03:16 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

:facepalm:


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Re: Who wraps their monos in black plastic? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24335914 - 05/20/17 03:20 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

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No liners and clear tubs. And I have no problems.
That book is far from a Bible.
My advice, psilocybin mushroom cultivation books should be used for research of the history of growing. But not actually for growing




I get occasional side pins, I just dont mind taking the time to clean my tub out once I toss the sub outside.


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Re: Who wraps their monos in black plastic? [Re: mushboy]
    #24335916 - 05/20/17 03:20 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

1. No... He's like our Andrew Wakefield.
2. No, if you want to learn you will. Good info is abundant. For that book its not worth anyone's time to pick it apart piece by peice to appease some noobs
3. Learn to research more effectively is all I can suggest
4. Yep books like that are noob magnets


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Re: Who wraps their monos in black plastic? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24336093 - 05/20/17 04:26 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah I don't use that book at all. It's all old info.


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Re: Who wraps their monos in black plastic? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24336449 - 05/20/17 06:41 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

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No liners and clear tubs. And I have no problems.
That book is far from a Bible.
My advice, psilocybin mushroom cultivation books should be used for research of the history of growing. But not actually for growing




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Re: Who wraps their monos in black plastic? [Re: Kenetic]
    #24336470 - 05/20/17 06:48 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

if you have an educational background in microbiology, you should be golden. just start with the links in bodhi's sig, and study that stuff, that is basically an up-to-date catalog of the current best practices and easiest ways for beginners to achieve success

it will probably make a lot of sense to you, and will definitely be more accurate and helpful than any book. books are nice, but you will be learning bad/outdated habits. you can easily find torrents floating around that have basically all the mushroom grow guides and books, but they usually cause more harm than good

its not that there isnt good info in there, there definitely is, its just that if your goal is to get mushrooms, you would do better by building off of what we have learned since then and learning from the success and failures of so many others who have done this

what exactly is your goal? what are you trying to accomplish in this hobby?


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Re: Who wraps their monos in black plastic? [Re: c10h12n2o]
    #24336567 - 05/20/17 07:30 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

People in the shroomery used to wrap their tubs with blankets and stuff just after spawning till its fully colonized but no one do this anymore.

Ambiant light is beneficial for myc during the colonization stage.

Now some people fruit at spawning.

I think this book is full of outdated info.


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