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Connoisseur

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thats the opiate anger that makes some people cranky.
and at that dose it doesnt effect my sex drive much.
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Connoisseur said: Im reading online that kratom can cause seizures and psychosis in rare instances.
Is this actually true? 
i have eaten an ounce in one go and the only thing happened to me was i puked my guts out. last doc i saw said that opiates and any drug really for the most part (except probably the ones that fight seizures) can trigger them as you disrupt the brains neurochemistry, so probably
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Re: Kratom Psychosis [Re: 404]
#23988260 - 01/07/17 12:19 AM (7 years, 23 days ago) |
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Kratom lifts me up like a cup of coffee would for anyone else. No effect on my libido as far as I can tell and I've been dosing for 3 years now.
I keep my doses at 5 gs in the morning, 5 gs at lunch, and 3 - 4 gs at night.
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Re: Kratom Psychosis [Re: Sham87]
#23988273 - 01/07/17 12:27 AM (7 years, 23 days ago) |
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No problems here..I take it every morning I have to work.
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Anyone that uses kratom regularly have their total or free testosterone checked?
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Connoisseur said: i dont get bad side effects at all, never have really.
At 5g average dose, I wouldn't really expect you to. Not the severe, stomach related ones anyway. No effects on libido eh?
And does anyone else find kratom makes them a bit "cranky" or more irritable than usual?
No i actually get a boost in my mood from kratom. Like coffee but much better. I actually dont have any single bad effect from it. I would put down my caffeine and nicotine addiction before it. Love the shit!
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Being that it is unregulated there's honestly no telling what could be in a batch of kratom. I've found pin wires and pieces of wood in some of mine. Haven't had anything bunk yet, did have a batch that made me sick but I was trying a new strain so it's probably just that I didn't tolerate it well. I've read stories of other people getting bunk or spoiled/improperly processed kratom too.
Now if you're buying from headshops or just willy nilly on the net then what you're buying could be like 40% kratom and idk 50% powdered sugar 5% food color and 5% RCs.
I'm aware powdered sugar doesn't have the same consistency but I imagine some powder does. I just can't think of what.
This is why I'm in favor of regulation. Just not the "regulation" we get. From people that don't know shit about what they're doing and don't really give a shit about the people.
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you've had wood and wires in your kratom? Thats crazy!
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I buy in bulk and what gets processed in bulk... well it's no surprising things sneak in there so I don't fault the vendor. Though of course I complained and they gave me free stuff and insist they sift their product prior to shipping now. Which, considering the batches I got afterward, I believe them. They changed their packaging too.
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oh my god cookie that actually scares me that your saying that kinda thing...jesus imagine if you ingested that...
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Connoisseur said: oh my god cookie that actually scares me that your saying that kinda thing...jesus imagine if you ingested that...
Imagine all the stuff people ingest without realizing it. Bugs and tons of gross stuff.
As long as you buy from a good source you shouldn't have to worry.
As for the side effects, I have a hard time believing kratom could actually cause psychosis or seizures. Maybe in some rare people or when extremely abused it could be possible but I doubt most people would be effected.
It enhances libido a bit IME too but I just take smaller doses. Just like cannabis it can make me extra horny or get me too distracted to care.
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Yeah I'm glad I encapsulate it. The biggest thing I find is hair. I dunno what kratom veins look like so it could be that and it could be my own hair.
But I think pretty much any drug can exacerbate mental illness. So reports of psychosis could actually be undeveloped or undiagnosed cases of schizophrenia.
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CookieCrumbs said: But I think pretty much any drug can exacerbate mental illness. So reports of psychosis could actually be undeveloped or undiagnosed cases of schizophrenia.
Exactly, plus most people who use kratom do or have done other drugs which are just as if not more likely to contribute to mental health issues in many cases.
Even alcohol and tobacco are most likely more harmful.
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I have never found other stuff in any kratom and I've ordered quite a lot in the past 2 years
Perhaps it is a supplier issue? Or maybe that stuff was in mine and I was just too high to notice 
I guess it could have been mixed with desmethyl tramadol or whatever (the same shit they mixed in that kratom in europe that killed some people) and I wouldn't have known but as far visible things like hair, pins, wood, etc...never seen anything like that
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Re: Kratom Psychosis [Re: sh4d0ws] 1
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I only take 2-5 grams and a tramadol, it makes me feel good but not high. Plenty of pep in my step, gets rid of most my knee/back pain, clear headed, and I leave my girl friend satisfied. I don't take it every day though. Just when I need it. Nothing but good. I can't idmagine taking 10-28 grams that would put my dick in the dirt.
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The stuff I got now is quality. I have yet to try the home grown..been saving all the leafs though.
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As somebody that suffers with varieties of mental illnesses breeding from a true psychosis, kratom helps me mellow out. Worst i've gotten is mild opiate sick from it where i puked but i still felt pretty good.
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Re: Kratom Psychosis [Re: Deemstar]
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I actually remember reading a story about someone who used kratom and worked with a semi crazy old vet or something.
Anyways one day at work he was taking his kratom and the crazy vet was pretty out of it so he gave him some and a bit later he was acting much less crazy.
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As with any drug, I think we can learn from this thread that
- source and quality/purity/maybe even strain are very important - the same drug can effect two different people VERY differently - negative side effects certainly seem to me to depend on dose, and lower dosing does seem much safer and better overall
As far as getting testosterone levels checked - I plan to. I'm getting all sorts of tests done lately and many more to come, due to my Lyme disease, so that's one I will definitely report results on.
I am also going to be getting results soon on my brain neurotransmitter test, which should be really interesting. Might even help reveal why I've been a drug seeker since I was 13 years old and always leaned towards depression or anxiety. Would be nice if I finally got some answers after 20 plus years!
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Forrester said: As with any drug, I think we can learn from this thread that
- source and quality/purity/maybe even strain are very important - the same drug can effect two different people VERY differently - negative side effects certainly seem to me to depend on dose, and lower dosing does seem much safer and better overall
As far as getting testosterone levels checked - I plan to. I'm getting all sorts of tests done lately and many more to come, due to my Lyme disease, so that's one I will definitely report results on.
I am also going to be getting results soon on my brain neurotransmitter test, which should be really interesting. Might even help reveal why I've been a drug seeker since I was 13 years old and always leaned towards depression or anxiety. Would be nice if I finally got some answers after 20 plus years!
please report back on the t levels. i find that interesting even though there could be a variety of factors got low t.
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