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Re: Scholastic cultivation of Panaeolus in big "Petri dish incubator" [photo] [Re: Panarchist]
    #23994178 - 01/09/17 12:13 AM (7 years, 22 days ago)

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foragedfungus said:
My understanding of the italian language may be lacking, but I think "Psilocibina" and "Psilocina" translate to the active chemicals psilocybin and psilocin. (which are found in the pans you want to grow.)

In the pdf you linked they list the chemical names
"Psilocibina-diidrogeno fosfato del 3-[2-(dimetilamino)etil]indol-4-olo",
"Psilocina-  3-[2-(dimetilamino)etil]indol-4-olo"

Pretty sure that means
Psilocybin -[3-(2-Dimethylaminoethyl)-1H-indol-4-yl] dihydrogen phosphate
Psilocin-4-hydroxy-N,N-dimethyltryptamine

You may want to consult a lawyer before starting this project.



Correct.
It's like DMT: the substance is illegal but the plants containing it can be grown or possesed without any consequence, since there are no mimosas or acacias written there (pratica example: you can order mimosas hostilis and drink ayahuasca (technically you couldn't, since its written that substances and preparations containing that are both illegal, but thanks to Santo Daime it's now legal) but not extract DMT and smoke it.

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About Ialian law: yes Panaeolus are perfectly legal,



If you think they are "perfectly legal" I would wonder what you think is a grey area.

If they really are "perfectly legal" I would expect to see them openly on sale in many of the head shops in Italy, you could take clones of them and not even bother with spores, or possibly get spores from the fresh or dry ones on sale.



Ok, I admit it's grey area. They're not sold because they're not socially accepted at all and bureaucracy is something insane even to pay taxes or sell pizzas (just Google "Italian bureaucracy" and look yourself). Moreover there aren't many headshops since the average policeman has only one working neuron (we have tons of police jokes, and most of them are sadly, if not true, plausible) and they make their life impossible.
Spores and seeds are even another thing, since there aren't any principles in them. You can buy grow kits and spores (or, at least, they're not controlled) but not already-inoculated grow kits, cause mycelium counts as mushroom for the law.

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berlinmyc said:
Bluefire does your teacher know that it is psychoactive?



Quoting his words: "As far it's legal, you don't harm yourself or other people and I don't have to pay for expensive stuff you can do everything you want". He's a "crazy scientist", he always wants to try something new (and because of that I'm one of the 5 (out of 25 people in my classroom) who always understand him while he's teaching). He was pretty interested in it.
He checked personally the file I sent you and said it was fine for him.

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Panarchist said:
i highly doubt that Italy would have laws against psilocybin/psilocin mushrooms yet somehow exempt panaeolus species from that law. it would be pretty awesome if somehow it was the case though. due to the fact that i have italian ancestry supposedly i can get fast-tracked for citizenship.



They aren't actually exempted, I think that they just forgot it, and since who grows shrooms is usually a bit (<-- irony) smarter than who makes laws they didn't say "uh, excuse me... You forgot to me me one illegal". That is because it's spontaneous too, so it can be picked in the woods. Here a lot of users prefer hunting for shrooms (it's full of Psilocybe Semilanceata, not that they're legal).

I hope I clarified all your doubts (blindingleaf, sorry but I'm not the kind of guy who usually smoke things: I think I'll jump from nothing to psychedelics this summer), if so I'd try to stay in topic, since in June I'll have my exams and I need to make a flush and at least begin to clone one ("I have some "Petris" there in the lab, I can show you some" and "I wanted to clone one but I didn't" have a really different effect. Maybe it would be even better show them the dishes than DNA analysis which proves they're the same mushroom. More impact)


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Re: Scholastic cultivation of Panaeolus in big "Petri dish incubator" [photo] [Re: BlueFire_ita]
    #23997079 - 01/10/17 12:40 AM (7 years, 20 days ago)

Since I hate just writing "up" (it looks quite spammy), here's some new photis, in case they're useful :smile:


Valve (outside) dimension


Valve (inside) dimension... And there's a plug on the other side!


I asked the technicians what is this for, and they answered it's probably to change humidity or CO2.

Well, one of the problem seems to be solved.

Edit.
My teacher said it's probably to change the oil heating resistance (don't know English name) are immersed in


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