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JonBongGroovy


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Charles Manson just may die soon.......
#23986830 - 01/06/17 03:23 PM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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moonrockmushy
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Re: Charles Manson just may die soon....... [Re: JonBongGroovy] 3
#23986854 - 01/06/17 03:29 PM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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Wonder who's cock the intestinal bleeding came from 
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Konyap

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Re: Charles Manson just may die soon....... [Re: moonrockmushy] 1
#23987098 - 01/06/17 04:59 PM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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I remember something like them being asked why they killed those people and the cultist being like, "who the fuck builds a mall in the desert."
IMO manson commited no murderous crimes, he was a victem of the 60's drug war on LSD #freeManson
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Mad_Larkin
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Re: Charles Manson just may die soon....... [Re: Konyap]
#23987152 - 01/06/17 05:16 PM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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Manson was definitely a victim of the prison system all his life and he got fucked over by a court system that wanted to appease a hysterical public... wouldn't particularly want to see him free though.
he's a manipulative coward & nuts as fuck to boot.
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Re: Charles Manson just may die soon....... [Re: Mad_Larkin]
#23987407 - 01/06/17 06:35 PM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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He was shut away for deliberately being a thread to society out of conviction.
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Connoisseur

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Re: Charles Manson just may die soon....... [Re: JonBongGroovy]
#23987645 - 01/06/17 08:07 PM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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i knew this day would come soon...
 
love manson, the family, and ATWA even though manson and SOME of the family are partially retarded and fucked up their entire lives and many other peoples lives due directly to their own stupidity and assumptions of what the world was/is/will become.
i feel really sad/angry that they blew it for themselves (and the rest of us) but at the same time i empathize with the mistakes they made because they REALLY just wanted to make the world what it should be (in my opinion that is) but they didnt know how.
most people lack the understanding of what really occurred with the history of the family and the manner in which the murders and other tragedy's took place. the family was just a group of hippies living in a commune type set up on Spahn ranch out in death valley, very similarly to many other communes that existed at the time.
the murders and other mishaps generally occurred due to a large amount of unintelligent assumptions made by manson and other family members about the state of the world/society as well as a scheme to commit a series of copy cat murders to get bobby out of jail. the family figured if they could make it seem like bobby was innocent by murdering people in a similar manner to what he did it would seem like he was innocent and the "real" murderer was still at large.
clearly this was a retarded idea and failed miserably just like the rest of the families affairs that didnt pertain to sex and drugs (Manson's music career and a book the family put together but then decided to never release ect) but it was thought of as a work of genius by the family at the time (just like manson and the families music which they expected to make them all famous/rich).
i could go on and on about the family and what i think and know about them, very interesting topic for me and i do seem value in SOME of manson and the families ideals such as ATWA.
Edited by Connoisseur (01/06/17 08:33 PM)
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natedawgnow
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Re: Charles Manson just may die soon....... [Re: Connoisseur] 5
#23987672 - 01/06/17 08:22 PM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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How was he trying to make the world what it should be exactly?
Doing loads of LSD, talking about inciting race wars, and convincing young men and women to murder innocent pregnant women really sounds like the kind of world I wanna live in..
I think if you wanna make the world a better place, starting with murder is a bad idea
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Connoisseur

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Re: Charles Manson just may die soon....... [Re: natedawgnow]
#23987695 - 01/06/17 08:31 PM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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it didnt start with murder by a LONG shot lol, i edited my post hope that helps explain things more. i can go into futhur details for those who are interested.
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SirShroomsAlott
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Re: Charles Manson just may die soon....... [Re: Connoisseur] 1
#23987707 - 01/06/17 08:38 PM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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Yeah the dude was a socio/psychopathic cult leader who manipulated people into doing whatever he wanted, "too weak to deal with surgery for intestinal bleeding" seriously... why would they even consider spending the money it would take to keep this dude alive, or anyone like him.
@Conn...."the murders and other mishaps generally occurred due to a large amount of unintelligent assumptions made by manson and other family members about the state of the world/society as well as a scheme to commit a series of copy cat murders to get bobby out of jail. the family figured if they could make it seem like bobby was innocent by murdering people in a similar manner to what he did it would seem like he was innocent and the "real" murderer was still at large.
clearly this was a retarded idea and failed"
Maybe I'm misreading your posts but I don't see the point you're trying to make, are you trying to say they're good people who just made mistakes by murdering people for there own selfish desires?
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Connoisseur

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not even remotely is that what I've said.
i clearly stated that i find many of the things about the family "mind state" and "logic" to be childish, ignorant and retarded.
at the same time i find many of the beliefs they hold to be true and beautiful.
i do believe at a base level though that they had much love and good in their hearts and it was sadly misguided by idiotic assumptions and misunderstandings about humanity.
they really took it wayyyyy too far, the whole thing fell apart. just like so many things in life what once starts out as beautiful and loving can often turn dark and fucked up when sex and drugs and violence and crime get in the mix.

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Re: Charles Manson just may die soon....... [Re: Connoisseur]
#23987715 - 01/06/17 08:42 PM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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Okay my mistake, to me it almost seemed like you were somewhat praising them lol if you don't mind, could you PM me some of the beliefs they had that you find true and beautiful, or just post it here if you prefer. I'll admit I've never looked much into it apart from the fucked up shit they did so I'm not opposed to everything relating to them, just that he and whoever took part deserves to die for what he did end up doing.
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Connoisseur

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manson himself did not commit any murders and the trial itself was done in an entirely illegal manner.
if you dont believe me look at this.
thats only one of many reasons the whole thing is legally a mistrial and its very sad that the correctional system has fallen apart so much that things like this often occur unnoticed.
as far as what i believe they had the RIGHT idea on, heres a few examples....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATWA
http://www.atwaearth.com/index.html
I would also like to say that i really have more interest in the family members who were NOT involved in the murders than the ones who were. i think that Tex, Sadie, Pat, and Linda are pretty much the shittiest and stupidest members of the family.
Edited by Connoisseur (01/06/17 08:53 PM)
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Re: Charles Manson just may die soon....... [Re: Connoisseur]
#23987766 - 01/06/17 08:57 PM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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Thanks man! Won't have much time to read into it tonight but at least now I'll have a starting point
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Connoisseur

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the rabbit hole isnt just deep my friend, if you go down in long enough you eventually figure out you never really get to the bottom.
it just keeps going...
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Re: Charles Manson just may die soon....... [Re: Connoisseur]
#23987782 - 01/06/17 09:02 PM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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Quote:
Connoisseur said: the rabbit hole isnt just deep my friend, if you go down in long enough you eventually figure out you never really get to the bottom.
it just keeps going...
That's why I stay the fuck away from rabbbit homes
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natedawgnow
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Dude I know all about the manson family and their intentions. Manson was insane and spoke quite a lot about inciting racial violence. They even tried to stage the murders to make them look like a black dude did it, not just to get their buddy out of jail.
He also chose Polanski's house supposedly because a record producer who refused to sign him used to live there, and manson mistakenly thought he still did.
Manson would probably be pretty happy about the state of race relations in America today. The dude was a hardcore racist who manipulated young hippies under the constant influence of psychedelics to do his bidding.
No loving individual carves a swastika into their own face, bro.
Although I will say that I actually like his song Look at Your Game Girl.
Also watch this. It's a pretty decent song
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Connoisseur

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Re: Charles Manson just may die soon....... [Re: natedawgnow]
#23987863 - 01/06/17 09:33 PM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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thats bullshit talk you read in helter skelter or saw in some tv documentary.
im on the phone right now but i can tell you the truth to those various situations in a little bit...
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Re: Charles Manson just may die soon....... [Re: Connoisseur] 1
#23987868 - 01/06/17 09:35 PM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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And who are you exactly to dictate the truth? Were you in the family?
They murdered seven people. How is that a loving group of people? I guess the definition of "tough love" includes manslaughter
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Re: Charles Manson just may die soon....... [Re: Connoisseur] 6
#23987878 - 01/06/17 09:38 PM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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If Manson had access to the shroomery, he'd probably be a pub mod.
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Connoisseur

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Re: Charles Manson just may die soon....... [Re: natedawgnow]
#23987937 - 01/06/17 10:08 PM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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natedawgnow said: And who are you exactly to dictate the truth? Were you in the family?
They murdered seven people. How is that a loving group of people? I guess the definition of "tough love" includes manslaughter 
im sure they murdered a lot more than that
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Connoisseur

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Re: Charles Manson just may die soon....... [Re: Connoisseur]
#23988018 - 01/06/17 10:37 PM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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watch this movie if you guys want to know the real truth about the joys and horrors of manson and the family
or read this book
https://www.amazon.com/Manson-His-Own-Words-Confessions/dp/0802130240
or this website
http://accessmanson.mansonblog.com/index.htm

lil Paul ate his words shortly after this when he testified against the family
Edited by Connoisseur (01/07/17 01:30 AM)
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Re: Charles Manson just may die soon....... [Re: Connoisseur]
#23988131 - 01/06/17 11:18 PM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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Good. He's a waste of space. Why didn't he ever get executed again?
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Connoisseur

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Re: Charles Manson just may die soon....... [Re: Crystal G]
#23988140 - 01/06/17 11:20 PM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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he was on death row when california removed the death penalty
cell 13
Edited by Connoisseur (01/07/17 12:53 AM)
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TheFakeSunRa
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Re: Charles Manson just may die soon....... [Re: Burke Dennings]
#23988297 - 01/07/17 12:48 AM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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Burke Dennings said: If Manson had access to the shroomery, he'd probably be a pub mod.
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viktor
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Re: Charles Manson just may die soon....... [Re: natedawgnow]
#23988488 - 01/07/17 03:32 AM (7 years, 23 days ago) |
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natedawgnow said: I think if you wanna make the world a better place, starting with murder is a bad idea
Wrong - murder is a great idea, you just have to murder up, not down, i.e. murder people more powerful than you.
This is called anarcho-homicidalism and if everyone practiced it the world would have peace.
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Re: Charles Manson just may die soon....... [Re: viktor]
#23988500 - 01/07/17 03:42 AM (7 years, 23 days ago) |
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Quote:
viktor said:
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natedawgnow said: I think if you wanna make the world a better place, starting with murder is a bad idea
Wrong - murder is a great idea, you just have to murder up, not down, i.e. murder people more powerful than you.
This is called anarcho-homicidalism and if everyone practiced it the world would have peace.
Fuck. I've never heard that term before and google just led me to one link also connected to New Zealand. That's some get you on the watch list shit right there.
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Re: Charles Manson just may die soon....... [Re: viktor]
#23988501 - 01/07/17 03:42 AM (7 years, 23 days ago) |
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viktor said: This is called anarcho-homicidalism and if everyone practiced it the world would have peace.
Isn't that kind of... contradictory? If everybody practiced murder there would be peace?
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Re: Charles Manson just may die soon....... [Re: Crystal G]
#23988508 - 01/07/17 03:54 AM (7 years, 23 days ago) |
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Quote:
Crystal G said:
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viktor said: This is called anarcho-homicidalism and if everyone practiced it the world would have peace.
Isn't that kind of... contradictory? If everybody practiced murder there would be peace?
It sounds like a very radical extension of the "no justice no peace" mindset. If people reacted with severe hostility to power structures that they found in anyway oppressive people with access to power would certainly think twice before wielding it flippantly. It's a very radical proposal. I'm actually pretty shocked by it.
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Re: Charles Manson just may die soon....... [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#23988515 - 01/07/17 04:02 AM (7 years, 23 days ago) |
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Sounds exactly like the kind of craziness that brainwashed Hindus into committing saffron terror.
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Re: Charles Manson just may die soon....... [Re: Crystal G]
#23988539 - 01/07/17 04:32 AM (7 years, 23 days ago) |
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Crystal G said: Sounds exactly like the kind of craziness that brainwashed Hindus into committing saffron terror.
That was a religious thing. I think this is more like killing your boss at your job or the CEO of some bank that's ripping you off or people locking up non-violent offenders
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Re: Charles Manson just may die soon....... [Re: JonBongGroovy]
#23988619 - 01/07/17 06:18 AM (7 years, 23 days ago) |
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Well he's back at the hospital.
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Connoisseur

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Re: Charles Manson just may die soon....... [Re: JonBongGroovy]
#23988963 - 01/07/17 09:45 AM (7 years, 23 days ago) |
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gonna listen to this one for the last time while charlie is still alive
and this one
Edited by Connoisseur (01/07/17 10:38 AM)
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