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A few RGS bottle questions
    #23986549 - 01/06/17 01:34 PM (7 years, 24 days ago)

How much rye grass seed should I put in tall 400ml PP5s for the invitro bottle tek?

Do I need to precook RGS? (Can just yes/no this one, I have a recipe if so)

Should I add gypsum at all?


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Re: A few RGS bottle questions [Re: lovelaughlibs]
    #23986661 - 01/06/17 02:20 PM (7 years, 24 days ago)



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Re: A few RGS bottle questions [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23986717 - 01/06/17 02:42 PM (7 years, 24 days ago)

That is a wonderful tek, but due to me having only rye berries/RGS/straw/gypsum/coir/vermiculite as possible substrate ingredients alongside much smaller containers, I have no idea where to even start.


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Re: A few RGS bottle questions [Re: lovelaughlibs]
    #23986740 - 01/06/17 02:51 PM (7 years, 24 days ago)

Then read it again. Wbo cares if your container is smaller. And all those ingredients are compatible.

Your research found you the tek for the rgs in-vitro bottle tek . Find me some pictures of great success with that method then go do the same for the bottle tek I showed you. Telling results.

Find the time tested, results proven methods.
And learn field capacity and proper hydration through experience
Mix your stuff up measure and take notes.


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Re: A few RGS bottle questions [Re: lovelaughlibs]
    #23986831 - 01/06/17 03:23 PM (7 years, 24 days ago)

I see your point. I'll have a go at my own recipe and see what happens. Is LI compulsory or would agar slices suffice?


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Re: A few RGS bottle questions [Re: lovelaughlibs]
    #23987035 - 01/06/17 04:37 PM (7 years, 24 days ago)

Slices work but slower.your smaller jars may be perfect for that.
If you're working with agar making a li or lc isnt as hard as it may seem either.


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Re: A few RGS bottle questions [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23987042 - 01/06/17 04:40 PM (7 years, 24 days ago)

That's a pro to the smaller containers then, cheers for the help :smile:


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Re: A few RGS bottle questions [Re: lovelaughlibs]
    #23987146 - 01/06/17 05:14 PM (7 years, 24 days ago)

lovelaughlibs, did you say a tall container that's only 400mL?  The tall containers in the invitro tek are 1000mL, though many containers can work.  I'm not sure how suitable a 400mL container would be.  Even the half-size Ziplocs are 500mL, and they are absolutely too short for the invitro pods.

Your grass seed is much better when boiled and strained before loaded into the containers.
You have absolutely nothing to lose by adding gypsum, and possibly something to gain.

I encourage you to try different methods as you're interested, but if you were asking about the one you felt meets your needs, don't let this one particular poster turn you away.  He is known for having a long-standing vendetta against me and takes it out on my method's reputation - mostly by pretending that results like these below don't exist and that the method isn't considered effective. You saw pretty much that exact same thing above when he essentially dared you to find good results with the method.
He isn't exactly speaking for the forum on this.  The method is essentially "trusted cultivator approved" and has even been featured on this forum before.


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Re: A few RGS bottle questions [Re: lovelaughlibs]
    #23987161 - 01/06/17 05:18 PM (7 years, 24 days ago)

Hey Violet, very cool you replied specifically. Due to me being English it was very hard to get hold of screwtop PP5s full stop, let alone 1000ML ones. Shipping from America would be very expensive too from what I found online :frown:


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Re: A few RGS bottle questions [Re: Violet]
    #23987164 - 01/06/17 05:18 PM (7 years, 24 days ago)

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Re: A few RGS bottle questions [Re: lovelaughlibs]
    #23987178 - 01/06/17 05:22 PM (7 years, 24 days ago)

Oh, I see...  Well the basic tenet of the method is keeping overhead space in a sealable container for fruits to grow after the seed (or most any grain if you can add a casing layer) is colonized and consumed.  Then allowing for steady, light air exchange until mushrooms grow into the place, giving them water to ensure they don't fall short on yield due to how little that grains hold.  You can probably accomplish that with all kinds of containers with only slight variations!  The Ziploc containers are the most ideal I know of so far, but I originally started doing it with regular quart jars.


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Re: A few RGS bottle questions [Re: Violet]
    #23987204 - 01/06/17 05:31 PM (7 years, 24 days ago)

Perhaps I could have a go with jars. How full would you recommend filling quart jars with RGS?

Should I alter the lids at all?


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Re: A few RGS bottle questions [Re: lovelaughlibs]
    #23987214 - 01/06/17 05:34 PM (7 years, 24 days ago)

1/2 parts water one part RGS by volume.
If you want to make jars with more than rgs like the bottle tek bring the other ingredients to field capacity + your 1 part RGS and 1/2 parts water


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Re: A few RGS bottle questions [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23987227 - 01/06/17 05:37 PM (7 years, 24 days ago)

That's very useful, cheers. Will a standard 6mm hole in the jar lid with an SFD over it suffice, or should I make 4 smaller ones?


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Re: A few RGS bottle questions [Re: lovelaughlibs]
    #23987235 - 01/06/17 05:40 PM (7 years, 24 days ago)

Unless you have one-piece lids for the jars, yeah you pretty much have to modify them.  Even if you do have one-pieces it can benefit them if they don't allow much air exchange around the threads.  Your normal lid modification will be fine if you can ensure you have a way to give them just enough air without letting them dry out when it's time to let them pin.

The main reason I don't suggest jars for this method is because the whole cakes can't just pop out. It's not so much a problem in wide-mouth jars because they come out easy in the end.  But even just harvesting is a bigger pain in the regular-mouth jars.  Past that, it's just about ensuring they can exchange gases.  The disc-and-ring type lids are not especially helpful for this - you might have to remove them and find another way to give them air, like a cover that's fairly loose, even just loose plastic wrap laying lazily over several containers.  Just putting a bunch of them in a larger tote together, with occasional fanning and misting, would do it easily if necessary.

My recommendation on filling any container that this can work with is halfway up at the most if you want to make the most of each grow jar, a quarter full at the least if you want to make the most of your seed.  Somewhere in the middle is where I'd suggest.  Less leaves more room for the mushrooms without removing the lid for the final stretch of growth, more makes for a bigger yield total of course but can sometimes change the way fruiting plays out depending on space, especially like the 3rd photo I posted above (submitted to me by a user named Chk)


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Re: A few RGS bottle questions [Re: lovelaughlibs]
    #23987242 - 01/06/17 05:41 PM (7 years, 24 days ago)

6mm hole with the SFD is good.

So for say 125ml rgs use 62 ml of water

You can put the water and rgs right in a jar and sterilize

Lids with a SFD are pretty standard I can't say i recommend unmodified lids. Pastywhyte and violet both use them but regardless most everyone universally accepted SFD lids as the best



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Re: A few RGS bottle questions [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23987255 - 01/06/17 05:44 PM (7 years, 24 days ago)

That's cool, thanks both :smile:


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