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Re: Does Science disprove the existence of God? [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
#24076945 - 02/09/17 09:30 AM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Does Religion prove the existence of God ?
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No, science doesn't deal with the supernatural. But it certainly makes it to look bloody unlikely
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Re: Does Science disprove the existence of God? [Re: blackdragon999]
#24082731 - 02/11/17 05:16 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Prove and disprove are tough words to fulfill. I would phrase it as, Modern scientific theories are necessarily incompatible with every god man has come up with. The only god that is compatible with modern scientific theories is the "god of the gaps" which nobody really worships, who's realm is constantly shrinking, and is only used as a debate tool against agnostics and atheists.
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Re: Does Science disprove the existence of God? [Re: DieCommie]
#24082880 - 02/11/17 06:16 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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If I have an experience which I might categorize as being spiritual in nature, and I think god has touched me in that moment, does it matter if the god that I encountered is all a product of my mind? It doesn't make that experiences any less true. It doesn't make that "god" any less real.
Now if I go out and tell others that god has touched me, and that I am the mouthpiece of god so others should listen, then we have a problem.
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Re: Does Science disprove the existence of God? [Re: Lucis]
#24083181 - 02/11/17 08:38 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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I would never want to deny your experience. I would reject your label of god though. Thats just a new, made up definition of god. People do that, they redefine god to appease their beliefs about their experiences. In a world where being an atheist is a terrible thing one must find something, anything, to play a god-like role for them.
Your experience is real, undeniable. Calling it god is supposing extra above that.
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Re: Does Science disprove the existence of God? [Re: DieCommie]
#24083184 - 02/11/17 08:40 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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I wonder who sold you on that idea.
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Re: Does Science disprove the existence of God? [Re: Lucis]
#24084327 - 02/12/17 10:37 AM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
Fennario said: If I have an experience which I might categorize as being spiritual in nature, and I think god has touched me in that moment, does it matter if the god that I encountered is all a product of my mind? It doesn't make that experiences any less true. It doesn't make that "god" any less real.
Now if I go out and tell others that god has touched me, and that I am the mouthpiece of god so others should listen, then we have a problem.
If God is everything, then he is also the mind.
You wouldn't teach as an exclusive person of God. You'd teach knowing that everyone is God
That knowing would demonstrate that you aren't focused on yourself as an assumed almighty, which, in a lesser form, is generally the problem with those who don't surrender the ego to 'see'.
Edited by Duncan Rowhl (02/12/17 10:50 AM)
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Re: Does Science disprove the existence of God? [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
#24093112 - 02/15/17 03:09 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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We are all tiny little wabbits, pretending to be G D, in a world of G d(/s), by being g*d.
Edited by BlueCoyote (02/15/17 03:22 PM)
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Re: Does Science disprove the existence of God? [Re: beforethedawn]
#24094403 - 02/16/17 03:23 AM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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beforethedawn said: Science has created this whole 'external world' concept where 'somewhere else' is where things are, including the truth, including life.
really? i view it completely the opposite. science tries to bring the focus on this world, this body, this universe, this experience. kind of like having arms/hands and legs/feet to swim in/with/against an ocean, as opposed to having little or no means to move about as one desires, to explore or change course.
i feel religion introduces and emphasizes something external, something "somewhere else", where something or things are "higher" than "we" are or are "more progressed" or has some value placed on them that is not placed on us
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Re: Does Science disprove the existence of God? [Re: blackdragon999]
#24094604 - 02/16/17 06:31 AM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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No, science does not disprove god at all. What it does, is show that all of this is possible without divine intervention/intelligent design. Doesn't mean there aren't other forces at work. Atheists of course, miss this point & falsely claim that science disproves god. Same way that christians for example, claim that the Bible provides that god is real. The reality is that none of us truly know. We believe what we believe, and that's fine. However, we don't truly know....probably never will. And anyone that claims to know without doubt is foolish & naive.
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Re: Does Science disprove the existence of God? [Re: blackdragon999]
#24122523 - 02/26/17 11:54 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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If the only thing that is truly quantifiable is conscious and the division between matter and antimatter, then God is not relevant to our existence. God is defined as the supreme reality, it is similar to how we use rules in mathematics to solve problems, this thing we call God evolved long after the existence of what we now call satan or hell, it is training wheels for the human race and aliens alike, most likely held in place by mass belief throughout the cosmos, our belief in something is what allows it to become "real". Try perceiving the world as if you are the last one alive, you will see that guilt and shame is an illusion, as well as truth, forgiveness, and freedom.
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Re: Does Science disprove the existence of God? [Re: blackdragon999]
#24124654 - 02/27/17 08:11 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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No. Comparing apples to oranges (or perhaps hard-balls to apples).
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