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Amanita Muscaria or cousin (or poisonous copycat)?
    #23979405 - 01/03/17 05:13 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Don't worry - I don't plan on eating these; they were just so beautiful I had to pick a few and take pics.

I was driving down a very rural road in the southeastern U.S. that wove through a dense pine tree forest and these guys were EVERYWHERE.  About every 100 yds or so there would be a patch about 15-20 ft wide X 30-75 ft long with anywhere from 10 to 100 of them, on both sides of the road.  I measured the road; it was 2.8 miles, and in that 2.8 miles I saw probably a few thousand of them. 

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Habitat: deep southeast U.S., in a dense pine tree forest.  Temperature has been in the mid-60s to mid-70s Fahrenheit with almost daily rain showers for the last 2-3 weeks.

caps: 1 1/4inch (~3 1/4cm) wide (closed caps) to 4 1/4 inches (~11cm) wide (open caps)

stems: 1/2 inch to 1 inch wide (wider on closed caps), solid although some appear to have a very small (less than 1 mm) hollow core.  Out of 7 mushrooms, 5 stems are snow white, 1 is off-white, and 1 is slightly yellowish.  the off-white and yellowish ones are both closed caps.

gills: white as snow, fully attached.

The road I was on was about an hour from my house, and by the time I got home the caps were a little lighter than when I picked them.  As you can see, the caps appear orange-ish, but they were a little closer to red at the moment of harvest.  Also, during the last 10 minutes or so of my drive home my car had a very faint freshwater fish smell (a bit "cleaner" than saltwater fish IMO).  My fingers smelled slightly mushroomy after handling them, but not very mushroomy.

I am making spore prints on a few of them as we speak and will get back tomorrow.

What are these?  Thanks in advance.

Edited by OakTree (01/03/17 05:17 PM)

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Re: Amanita Muscaria or cousin (or poisonous copycat)? [Re: OakTree]
    #23979452 - 01/03/17 05:28 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Those are defiantly Amanita Muscaria (variation Persicina) I live in South Georgia and these grow in my yard that's full of pine trees. They produce a good trip when taken orally. I let them dry in the sun by my window.

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Re: Amanita Muscaria or cousin (or poisonous copycat)? [Re: Open_Your_Mind]
    #23979481 - 01/03/17 05:37 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks!  Well in that case, shit, I may dry them and try a small amount.  Before I do though, I'd like a few more opinions.  I definitely believe you, and every picture I've seen of Amanita Muscaria looks just like them; I just want to eliminate the small amount of doubt still left in my mind.  So if a few more folks agree, I shall dry them and try them.

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Re: Amanita Muscaria or cousin (or poisonous copycat)? [Re: OakTree]
    #23979497 - 01/03/17 05:41 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Definitely get more opinions for sure never trust one person.

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Re: Amanita Muscaria or cousin (or poisonous copycat)? [Re: Open_Your_Mind]
    #23979506 - 01/03/17 05:44 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks; yea I agree.  Especially since I've read so many horror stories involving Amanitas.  Chances are I won't try them.  But if 20 people respond all saying they are definitely amanitas I will cut a very small piece from a cap and try it.  Thanks for the response.

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Re: Amanita Muscaria or cousin (or poisonous copycat)? [Re: OakTree]
    #23979576 - 01/03/17 06:07 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Amanita Muscaria or cousin (or poisonous copycat)? [Re: donjonson420]
    #23980677 - 01/04/17 06:59 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

The spore prints are white as the driven snow.

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Re: Amanita Muscaria or cousin (or poisonous copycat)? [Re: OakTree]
    #23980811 - 01/04/17 08:49 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah definitely Amanita Muscarias. I also live in South Georgia and also have them all over my yard haha. Have fun :laugh:

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Re: Amanita Muscaria or cousin (or poisonous copycat)? [Re: SmokeyMcPots]
    #23983640 - 01/05/17 11:16 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)



I live in n.e. Florida.. This is behind My warehouse at work!! I think I mite dry them and save em..


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Re: Amanita Muscaria or cousin (or poisonous copycat)? [Re: nolongrlurkin]
    #23984520 - 01/05/17 05:00 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I went back out to that spot yesterday and found these guys:


I'm still not sure if I'm going to try them.  I'm going to spend a few weeks reading as much as I can about them because I've heard many conflicting reports.  Some people say they are great and others hate them.  I'm going to read and read until I can pinpoint why there is so much conflicting information.  So far it appears that proper preparation and conversion of ibotenic acid to muscimol helps, but I am going to read a lot more and maybe try them in a month or so.  Most of what I read so far suggests drying them and then storing them for a month or so anyway.  I'll just use that time to do some research.

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Re: Amanita Muscaria or cousin (or poisonous copycat)? [Re: OakTree]
    #23984594 - 01/05/17 05:18 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Man those Things look ultra dude!! Awesome find!!


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Re: Amanita Muscaria or cousin (or poisonous copycat)? [Re: nolongrlurkin]
    #23984603 - 01/05/17 05:23 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks man!  No joke - there were thousands of them.  Most were past their prime (cap upturned, some starting to brown).  I'll bet about 3 or 4 days ago it was a beautiful sight.  There were still probably a few hundred that looked good, but I was paranoid about cars going by since they were on the side of the road adjacent to the pine forest, so I just took a handful of the best ones I saw.  Even though they are legal, I didn't want a cop to write a report, take me in and then realize I did nothing wrong, because I think the report would stay on file anyway.

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Re: Amanita Muscaria or cousin (or poisonous copycat)? [Re: OakTree]
    #23984651 - 01/05/17 05:38 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Ide be the same way.. I've only picked in one field in my life, way too sketchy!! Police make my tummy feel weird...


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Re: Amanita Muscaria or cousin (or poisonous copycat)? [Re: nolongrlurkin]
    #23985509 - 01/05/17 11:41 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Ide be the same way.. I've only picked in one field in my life, way too sketchy!! Police make my tummy feel weird...




Amanita Muscaria are an uncontrolled, unrestricted substance and perfectly legal in the US, except for Louisana.  No need to feel sketchy about picking them.

But trust me, if you do decide to eat one, you will very likely regret it.  Stick to beer, weed, or whiskey.  Hell, stick to psilocybin as it is much more enjoyable.


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Re: Amanita Muscaria or cousin (or poisonous copycat)? [Re: Gravity]
    #23985532 - 01/05/17 11:52 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

That's what makes me hesitant.  I've heard some people say it's great but many more say it's not.  Besides, with them being legal and widely available, I would think they would be more popular if they were enjoyable.  I'm going to keep reading up for a few weeks.  They sure look cool!

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Re: Amanita Muscaria or cousin (or poisonous copycat)? [Re: OakTree]
    #23985655 - 01/06/17 01:39 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I think they are not that much enjoyable. I once read that booze replaced the use of them. For me, they feel similar to booze made me kinda dizzy, I closed my eyes but could not fall asleep. But you can give it a try. Just let them dry first. Maybe put them on the heater, to ensure that all the Ibotenic acid has become Muscimol. Wikipedia sates that young Amanita Muscaria are a delicacy in Japan. They do not taste bad. Furthermore, I read that they were eaten in Germany after WW2, but they were boiled first and then the water was discarded to remove the "poison".

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    #23986096 - 01/06/17 09:33 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

From my personal experience its best to dry them in an oven, at low temps with the door open.  The heat will make more muscimol from ibotonic acid like stated.  They can be a fun time in my opinion.  I hear that depending on when in the season they are picked,  they will be more or less potent with varying amounts of the acid and muscimol so keep that in mind.  I imagine that is a factor at play when reading so much conflicting data.  Also another factor ive read is that generally speaking the Amanitas from europe are way more potent than north America.  So this might be why so many people say different things.  Its a world of factors with them: when they are picked, where they are picked, how they are dried, and how they are taken. 
In my experience they have been kinda like booze, like mentioned here, but more clear headed with little 'hang over'    Thats how the tea has been for me.  I have also eaten a few caps wich produced a more classic psychedelic effect a long with the clear drunkenness feeling. It was fun.  I have experienced no stomach issues with these things.  Maybe its how i dried them?  Not quite sure, like i said a world of factors. My fried experimented more than i did, eating a large amount of dried caps.  He sais the higher the dose, the more psychedelic it is with colorful visuals an everything so their reputation as a psychedelic mushroom in the end is well deserved.  Now imagine the panther caps, which are more potent, with less ibotonic acid... woa!!!  It could be one of the oldest used drugs and has played an important role in multiple aspects of human societies throughout history!  Im always honored to find them.

Another thing id like to add is that a dry amanita powder can be smoked as well, unlike psilocybe mushrooms, you can take a big rip of just the powder, or sprinkle it on a bowl of weed for an extra something in your normal weed high!


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Re: Amanita Muscaria or cousin (or poisonous copycat)? [Re: WhistyTak]
    #23986390 - 01/06/17 12:00 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks for the info.  I have already dried them in a food dehydrator at 115*F/46*C until they were cracker dry.  Do you think I should also use the oven, seeing as the temp will be higher?  I have read that when people steep them in water they steep them at 170*F in order to convert the ibotenic acid, which is a much higher temperature than I used to dry them.

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Re: Amanita Muscaria or cousin (or poisonous copycat)? [Re: OakTree]
    #23987125 - 01/06/17 05:07 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Dude, cracker dry is good. If you burn them to a crisp you're probably going to start losing good chemicals and the effects won't be as good.

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Re: Amanita Muscaria or cousin (or poisonous copycat)? [Re: Open_Your_Mind]
    #23987130 - 01/06/17 05:08 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Word, thanks.

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