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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: Asante]
#23988755 - 01/07/17 08:19 AM (7 years, 23 days ago) |
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hood rat noun 1. (US, slang, derogatory) a young promiscuous woman from an impoverished urban area
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Asante said: 'Hostileuniverse, these youngsters have committed a vile and hate motivated violent crime. That does not give one a free licence to throw around derogatory terms.
they used the derogatory term of white while they were torturing the melanin deficient autistic man
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But hey you got trump now so... Anything goes right?
what horse shit, is that why black people are killing the pigment challenged, because they have obama?
You completely miss the point. When a perpetrator of a hate crime uses abusive language doesnt mean that its OK for people discussing the crime to use abusive language also.
There is something like the moral higher ground. Namecalling is petty.
Trump is the champion of non-civil debate, so must we all sink that low now he is president? I think not.
Calling people rats, in this case hood rats, has been done before and it led to the Holocaust. You dehumanize people to a pest animal and the unspoken narrative is that their extermination is justified.
You don't refer to people as rats, whether its about their socioeconomic status or their ethnicity.
How dare you bring the Holocaust into this discussion and what for. Leave it to a Dutchman, Jesus Christ.
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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: Adden] 1
#23988761 - 01/07/17 08:22 AM (7 years, 23 days ago) |
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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: shadyy] 7
#23988778 - 01/07/17 08:34 AM (7 years, 23 days ago) |
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Only on the Shroomery could calling a hate crime perpetrator a name be compared to the Holocaust.
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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: shadyy]
#23988781 - 01/07/17 08:37 AM (7 years, 23 days ago) |
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Here I sit with great uncles and second cousins and different ciocis who lost loved ones in the world war.. and then the world was at war not long after to take more of my people away.. or make them die in the mass graves they were digging for themselves.. grandpa's brother got gassed in ww1.. he had a sister back in Poland she died in the camps had two sons have no idea.. grandma was a hood rat scrapping metals as a kid during the depression fighting for potatoes and then again for the next world war when she wasn't working at the ammunition factory.. we lost a lot of family to the camps. How dare you. It is beyond me that you'd drag it in. The word is a genderless descriptor, no more, no less.
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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: Asante] 1
#23988803 - 01/07/17 08:50 AM (7 years, 23 days ago) |
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The crime was racially motivated and its wrong to use a mildly racial term to describe the terrible people that tortured an autistic?
Jews also commit very few crimes and aren't constantly complaining despite the amount of people that hate them and think they are behind every bad thing.
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No Adden. Its not a harmless word, hoodrat. Its not racially neutral either but ooh the one who mentions that be damned!
I mention that.
My family on both sides suffered the war too, in person, including my father, his siblings and parents. My grandfather was dragged off to the Ruhr in the Arbeitseinsatz as a slave laborer, barely made it through, while my grandmother and my father and aunts and uncles sat in a bomb shelter in her own back yard which almost killed them. Fucked them right up and the trauma unloaded onto me in the next generation.
So even though you are among people oblivious about WW2, I am not one of them. Its personal for me.
Maybe you should look deeper into the subject matter, because the Nazis prepared the Germans for the Holocaust by literally reducing Jews to ghetto dwellers, comparewd them with rats and pointed to extermination as the solution.
Hoodrat is a highly dangerous word.
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specialpeopleclub said: The crime was racially motivated and its wrong to use a mildly racial term to describe the terrible people that tortured an autistic?.
Its not a mildly racial term.
Nothing mild about hoodrat and it has historical precedent. And you have a president who thinks in terms of hoodrats and who has made this unfortunate narrative seem legitimate and justified.
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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: Prisoner#1] 2
#23988937 - 01/07/17 09:36 AM (7 years, 23 days ago) |
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Asante said: 'Hostileuniverse, these youngsters have committed a vile and hate motivated violent crime. That does not give one a free licence to throw around derogatory terms.
they used the derogatory term of white while they were torturing the melanin deficient autistic man
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But hey you got trump now so... Anything goes right?
what horse shit, is that why black people are killing the pigment challenged, because they have obama?
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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: hostileuniverse] 4
#23988991 - 01/07/17 09:57 AM (7 years, 23 days ago) |
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There are pleanty of white hoodrats. Its kind of offensive you would attribute it only to blacks. They just happen to be the largest pervaors of that particular culture.
From where I am, I think its fine to divide along these lines. Black culture down town here is different then average white culture just outside of the town.
A reasonable hope would be that individuals see how foolish black 'culture' is and try to be more productive. Getting offended over a nothing word like hoodrat doesn't help anything.
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A reasonable hope would be that individuals see how foolish black 'culture' is and try to be more productive. Getting offended over a nothing word like hoodrat doesn't help anything.
Yes it does, it brings attention to the downtrodden and their plight of unfairly being called names, and makes the SJW's feel good
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specialpeopleclub said: There are pleanty of white hoodrats. Its kind of offensive you would attribute it only to blacks. They just happen to be the largest pervaors of that particular culture.
From where I am, I think its fine to divide along these lines. Black culture down town here is different then average white culture just outside of the town.
A reasonable hope would be that individuals see how foolish black 'culture' is and try to be more productive. Getting offended over a nothing word like hoodrat doesn't help anything.
I love how you can't help but contradict your argument in the next sentence. Racists
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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: shadyy] 1
#23989146 - 01/07/17 10:53 AM (7 years, 23 days ago) |
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the shroomery are literally hoodrats.
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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: Asante] 13
#23989202 - 01/07/17 11:08 AM (7 years, 23 days ago) |
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Bullshit. A hood rat is a fucking hood rat. It's not defined by race or gender, nor does it refer to all denizens of the hood. It's merely a word to describe a certain class of scum that happens that happens to be from the hood. It includes all races & genders that fit the bill. Is it offensive? Maybe, but hood rats themselves are offensive & deserving of the term. You wouldn't know that, because you're from the Netherlands. This term originated in the US. Come to my city & walk around Kensington or Germantown, or walk around Detroit, or the south side of Chicago & you'll learn real quick where that term came from. Get this PC shit out of here. These scumbags kidnapped & tortured someone with autism. Kidnapping & torturing anyone is heinous. To do that with someone with a disability like autism is beyond disgusting. And here you are saying "don't call them names"? Fuck that.
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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: Dark_Star] 1
#23989253 - 01/07/17 11:25 AM (7 years, 23 days ago) |
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i don't think he was simply saying to not call them names. he said that calling them names is petty (which it is) and he was making a larger point over all, not just "you can't say that!"
hell, i don't see anyone being told not to post anything. no edits, no warnings, no bans. just someone trying to share their point of view. let's string him up.
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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: akira_akuma] 1
#23989259 - 01/07/17 11:27 AM (7 years, 23 days ago) |
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Let's not call a cat a cat, or a duck a duck then. Things have names to identify them. And hood rats are identifiable as such.
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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: Dark_Star] 1
#23989270 - 01/07/17 11:30 AM (7 years, 23 days ago) |
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it's really just some slang-terminology. it's a means of making everyone here feel just a little bit less erm underwhelmed.
i don't care what you call them. but the in-fighting is ridiculous. why can't he just share his opinion, and you just agree to disagree. you think it's just "a word". Asante, rightly, says it has historical precedent few here are taking into account, and they don't wish to discuss it in the least, they just spew vitriol. that's all the same just more hoodrat behavior.
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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: Dark_Star] 2
#23989271 - 01/07/17 11:30 AM (7 years, 23 days ago) |
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Exactly. Restricting the right of others to use the language they see fit is an abuse of privilege.
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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: Senor_Doobie]
#23989279 - 01/07/17 11:32 AM (7 years, 23 days ago) |
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he isn't restricting you.
the right to use language is keen. the right to disabuse people from language being used as a vehicle for hate against them, is just another use of language. it's Asante's choice. he didn't "prevent" anyone their rights and or opinions.
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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: akira_akuma]
#23989284 - 01/07/17 11:33 AM (7 years, 23 days ago) |
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He isn't restricting anything...yet.
But he has a pretty authoritative stance (and position).
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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: Senor_Doobie]
#23989337 - 01/07/17 11:53 AM (7 years, 23 days ago) |
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i'm pretty sure things are fine. ya'll are overreacting to his "PC-bullshit" with your "anti-PC" talking points, which i'm pretty are two sides of the exact same coin. 'cept Asante isn't insulting anyone by proclaiming his statements, and/or telling anyone to "fuck off" for having an opinion that one doesn't like. 
personally, i think either/or sentiment is kinda silly. hoodrat is a stupid word, but not the most egregious word in the world, it's not like you're calling them the n' word, or anything. but Asante isn't "silencing" anyone. that's absurd. but people are telling him to shut up. odd that. very strange contradiction of terms. i guess it's because he's seen as an authority, so it's alright to tell him to silence himself for the sake of having some non-PC discussion.
i just don't get it...the in-fighting...cause someone is PC they are talked down to?
why can't there be room for PC and non-PC opinions?
why does there always have to be only one, or the other, and nothing more?
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