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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: sh4d0ws]
#23987649 - 01/06/17 08:09 PM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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sh4d0ws said: I would be OK with them being tortured in a far worse way, over the course of many years. I think that's about the only justice I could agree with in this case.
Am I crazy?
I hate to quote that one guy that said "an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" but it's kind of true.
It sucks seeing people like this, but people like this aren't going anywhere, so we should at least try to be decent role models to the young ones we encounter in our lives.
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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: psi] 4
#23987650 - 01/06/17 08:11 PM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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The bias is the media is so quick to label everything that happens to any black person by any white person as instantly racist, but when it's the other way around, they'll beat around the bush instead of just saying what it is. I'm pretty sure he's implying (and quite correctly IMO) that if it were 4 white people torturing a black disabled person, the title would be far more racially toned, and would probably include "racist" or "racism" somewhere in there.
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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: MrBlueYoMind] 1
#23987680 - 01/06/17 08:24 PM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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MrBlueYoMind said: They weren't making him drink toilet water or scalping him because of his disability. They weren't making him say "Fuck autistic people!" They were making him say "Fuck white people!" and "Fuck Trump!"

The article wasn't making that argument and neither was I.
I'm not necessarily convinced that hate crime laws are a good thing, but I do think it's particularly evil to take advantage of the trust of someone with the mentality of a child (just as much it would be with an actual child) and then victimize them like this. Both of the attacks mentioned seem to have elements of the attackers taking advantage of the victims' credulity and desire for friendship. I would guess that this is probably true of many other attacks on people with mental disabilities. It's fucking evil, and IMO it really makes little difference whether or not the attacker has the conscious thought "I hate disabled people."
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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: Asante] 1
#23987732 - 01/06/17 08:48 PM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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Herbologist said: They are hood rats.
"hoodrat" is not a neutral terminology. Its a derogatory word just like nigger and faggot. Nobody is a hoodrat.
A hoodrat could be a middle class white kid who goes to the ghetto and commits crimes, or is a thug/criminal. I think there's some misunderstanding or the language barrier I'm not sure. But it's got nothing to do with n-----s or f-----s.
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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: Shroomslip]
#23987817 - 01/06/17 09:16 PM (7 years, 23 days ago) |
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Shroomslip said: The bias is the media is so quick to label everything that happens to any black person by any white person as instantly racist, but when it's the other way around, they'll beat around the bush instead of just saying what it is. I'm pretty sure he's implying (and quite correctly IMO) that if it were 4 white people torturing a black disabled person, the title would be far more racially toned, and would probably include "racist" or "racism" somewhere in there.
It wasn't a news article reporting on the incident though, it was an editorial that used the incident as a jumping off point to talk more generally about violence against the disabled in the US. The title "Facebook video reminder of violence faced by disabled Americans" is a pretty straightforward description for such an editorial IMO.
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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: Asante]
#23988120 - 01/06/17 11:14 PM (7 years, 23 days ago) |
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Asante said: 'Hostileuniverse, these youngsters have committed a vile and hate motivated violent crime. That does not give one a free licence to throw around derogatory terms.
they used the derogatory term of white while they were torturing the melanin deficient autistic man
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But hey you got trump now so... Anything goes right?
what horse shit, is that why black people are killing the pigment challenged, because they have obama?
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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: shadyy]
#23988146 - 01/06/17 11:22 PM (7 years, 23 days ago) |
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those people look like the biggest scum bags, im not even saying that due to their racial background they just straight up look like pieces of shit regardless.
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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: Connoisseur]
#23988418 - 01/07/17 02:16 AM (7 years, 23 days ago) |
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Connoisseur said: those people look like the biggest scum bags
reported for racism
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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23988461 - 01/07/17 03:03 AM (7 years, 23 days ago) |
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hood rat noun 1. (US, slang, derogatory) a young promiscuous woman from an impoverished urban area
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Asante said: 'Hostileuniverse, these youngsters have committed a vile and hate motivated violent crime. That does not give one a free licence to throw around derogatory terms.
they used the derogatory term of white while they were torturing the melanin deficient autistic man
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But hey you got trump now so... Anything goes right?
what horse shit, is that why black people are killing the pigment challenged, because they have obama?
You completely miss the point. When a perpetrator of a hate crime uses abusive language doesnt mean that its OK for people discussing the crime to use abusive language also.
There is something like the moral higher ground. Namecalling is petty.
Trump is the champion of non-civil debate, so must we all sink that low now he is president? I think not.
Calling people rats, in this case hood rats, has been done before and it led to the Holocaust. You dehumanize people to a pest animal and the unspoken narrative is that their extermination is justified.
You don't refer to people as rats, whether its about their socioeconomic status or their ethnicity.
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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: shadyy]
#23988511 - 01/07/17 03:56 AM (7 years, 23 days ago) |
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Is that a Jesus thing?
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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23988538 - 01/07/17 04:32 AM (7 years, 23 days ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: and marijuana legalization challenged.
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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: Asante] 1
#23988555 - 01/07/17 04:56 AM (7 years, 23 days ago) |
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No, no, no. You were comparing it to nigger and kike...you thought it was a racially/ethnically charged term.
Now you only have a problem with the "rat" part.
In the past you've called countryside racists "oil field trash." So tell me, hypocrite, which card are you going to play here.
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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: shadyy]
#23988564 - 01/07/17 05:09 AM (7 years, 23 days ago) |
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No I was also comparing it with faggot which is not ethnic and you know this and willfuly omitted tht part to make your flawed point.
I didnt cry racism or homophobia, I have been very clear that you are referring to these rather unpleasant youths an a way that is disparaging, involving the hood/ghetto and being a rat.
Ghetto / Rat..
Where have we heard that rhetoric before?
History lesson:
You don't compare people to rats in a ghetto, that is a most unfortunate association.
If you mean well, might I suggest changing the toitle of the thread into something less stigmatizing to people unfortunate enough to live in extreme poverty with little opportunity.
Making America great again does not mean putting your poor citizenry down or literally dehumanizing them. America is turning into a ghetto, one in six is on food stamps, including many people on this board.
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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: shadyy]
#23988567 - 01/07/17 05:15 AM (7 years, 23 days ago) |
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i hate liz said:
In the past you've called countryside racists "oil field trash." So tell me, hypocrite, which card are you going to play here.
Dude, we have a member called Oil Field Trash, I never used that word disparagingly and in fact as a not particularly rich southerner in my own country I feel a kinship with redneckism, just not the nihilist sides of it because I am a raging optimist.
I'm not a hypocrite, you are just a bad lister OR you sling whatever mud you can find at me for calling you out on putting a disparaging title on a thread to get the usual suspects on the hate train and sit back while they spice up the thread with innuendo.
We all condemn to the utmost what these Chicago youths did. There is a difference however with waging class warfare with a hint of racial flavor at them. That is not an attack on their action but on their person.
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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: Asante] 5
#23988600 - 01/07/17 05:53 AM (7 years, 23 days ago) |
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Nobody said living in the ghetto makes you a hood rat, so I don't know why you think it would apply to everyone living in poverty.
I've already explained that it's slang for a thug or hoodlum.
I don't care about your feelings.
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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: shadyy] 4
#23988607 - 01/07/17 06:03 AM (7 years, 23 days ago) |
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It's a gender less descriptor. No need to get worked up about it, guys.
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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: Adden] 2
#23988609 - 01/07/17 06:06 AM (7 years, 23 days ago) |
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It doesn't matter what color or sex the offenders were. They are terrible people. If a group of white guys did this I'd be just as pissed. What kind of human do you have to be. It just boggles my mind man.
Edit: I'd be extremely pissed if white guys did this to a black kid.
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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: Asante] 4
#23988621 - 01/07/17 06:20 AM (7 years, 23 days ago) |
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hood rat noun 1. (US, slang, derogatory) a young promiscuous woman from an impoverished urban area
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Asante said: 'Hostileuniverse, these youngsters have committed a vile and hate motivated violent crime. That does not give one a free licence to throw around derogatory terms.
they used the derogatory term of white while they were torturing the melanin deficient autistic man
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But hey you got trump now so... Anything goes right?
what horse shit, is that why black people are killing the pigment challenged, because they have obama?
You completely miss the point. When a perpetrator of a hate crime uses abusive language doesnt mean that its OK for people discussing the crime to use abusive language also.
There is something like the moral higher ground. Namecalling is petty.
Trump is the champion of non-civil debate, so must we all sink that low now he is president? I think not.
Calling people rats, in this case hood rats, has been done before and it led to the Holocaust. You dehumanize people to a pest animal and the unspoken narrative is that their extermination is justified.
You don't refer to people as rats, whether its about their socioeconomic status or their ethnicity.
The only person being abusive here is you. Quit telling people what they're allowed and not allowed to say.
Calling somebody a name isn't "abusive". Asshole.
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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: Senor_Doobie]
#23988688 - 01/07/17 07:28 AM (7 years, 23 days ago) |
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People like them are the reason stereotypes are a thing.
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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: spirit_shadow]
#23988704 - 01/07/17 07:40 AM (7 years, 23 days ago) |
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Stereotypes are just patterns of behavior. Giving them crude names is a function of one culture integrating another. There is bound to be hostile, and verbal hostility is more manageable than physical.
But name calling is name calling. Whether I call you a fuckwit or a nigger depends on whether you are acting like a fuckwit or a nigger.
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