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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: Konyap] * 1
    #23984607 - 01/05/17 05:23 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

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I don't think they should go to jail for long I just think they shouldn't be allowed to reproduce




Yes, castration.  The other left-wing cure-all.

If you want to debate the legitimacy of hate crime laws, I'm happy to oblige.  But that doesn't change the fact that as the law stands today, they are guilty and need to be punished accordingly. 

This does not mean that I think hate crime laws are legitimate, because i do not.  But if this is what it takes to show people their seriousness, then good.


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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: qman]
    #23984614 - 01/05/17 05:26 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

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Research has shown, harsher sentencing leads to more crime.





Source?  How can someone commit a crime against society while in prison?




Google'y moogly

I dont feel up to digging around for sources on my phone, its around though


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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #23984638 - 01/05/17 05:35 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

it's always so funny when i hear people say that others ought to be like eunuchs or something. :lol: like, boy, ya, take away the 'curtain', and why not the 'stage', while you're at it.


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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: akira_akuma] * 3
    #23984688 - 01/05/17 05:55 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

Race war baiters.
The sentence should be harsh.
This goes without saying but other black individuals are not reflected in their actions, just like not all muslims are terrorists. Its narrow thinking to write-off a race because of what you see some of their members doing.

Plenty of white serial killers, rapists, thieves out there. No one race is decidedly evil... Though some are statistically more likely to commit crime, that is impossible to ignore.


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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: ModestMouse]
    #23984705 - 01/05/17 05:59 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

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Race war baiters.
The sentence should be harsh.
This goes without saying but other black individuals are not reflected in their actions, just like not all muslims are terrorists. Its narrow thinking to write-off a race because of what you see some of their members doing.

Plenty of white serial killers, rapists, thieves out there. No one race is decidedly evil... Though some are statistically more likely to commit crime, that is impossible to ignore.




It does go without saying.  So don't say it.  Everybody knows there is evil in every race as there is evil in every person.  Why do you feel compelled to say that?  I'm genuinely curious.


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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: Doctor Sponge]
    #23984707 - 01/05/17 05:59 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

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i say execute all four of them

i saw the video its disgusting

fuck chicago




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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #23984720 - 01/05/17 06:03 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)


What a low bar we set as a race when we have such advanced technology but still such primitive group dynamics.


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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: ModestMouse]
    #23984747 - 01/05/17 06:12 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

what's primitive is Facebook...and also putting that shit they did on Facebook. LOL

but also, they don't represent nothing but the typical shit fuck. white people can be shitfucks too, but they might not, ya know...post the shit on Facebook, just sayin'.... >.>

but the race thing is stupid...obvious hate crime. Senor_Doobie is, typically, right all around.


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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: Senor_Doobie] * 2
    #23984754 - 01/05/17 06:15 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

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By which I mean, you can't have racism without political thinking.  You can have political policies without racism.



you can't with an attitude like that


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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: qman]
    #23984789 - 01/05/17 06:30 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

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Research has shown, harsher sentencing leads to more crime.





Source?  How can someone commit a crime against society while in prison?





By picking up the phone in prison and calling someone?  By attacking a guard?  By raping someone?


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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: vandago]
    #23984791 - 01/05/17 06:31 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

I've watched crack dealers run their business on the jail phones, and fight people over using them.


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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: vandago]
    #23984868 - 01/05/17 07:02 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

Recidivism, promoting violence as a society, promoting vengefulness with their clan, maiming / ostracizing / fining people out of work and into poverty (leaving crime as the obvious path for them forward)

Can you imagine being whipped for smoking pot? Imagine what it would be like dealing with cops who had that kind of power over you, they can get your hand cut off for something you didnt do. Shit is bad enough already with unjust laws and total lack of law enforcement accountability.


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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: ReposadoXochipilli]
    #23984882 - 01/05/17 07:09 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

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Senor_Doobie said:
By which I mean, you can't have racism without political thinking.  You can have political policies without racism.



you can't with an attitude like that




Pardon?


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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: Herbologist] * 2
    #23984884 - 01/05/17 07:09 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

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If white people tied up and kicked an African American boy and told him to denounce Obama on tape, this would be all over the news, Black Lives Matter would already be in the streets and Attorney General Lynch would be investigating it as a hate crime.




No, it wouldn't. There was already a similar story, and not only did it not receive extensive news coverage, the perpetrator didn't even go to prison.

A disabled black kid was bullied and raped with a coat hanger, that sounds painful.

http://www.essence.com/news/white-teen-avoids-jail-for-rape-of-black-student?xid=essence_socialflow_facebook


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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: Crystal G]
    #23984911 - 01/05/17 07:17 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

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Hemmer went on to claim that there was no racial motivation behind Howard's actions stating. "I will say that there are things that we found going around that school and that locker room involving a lot of the parties here that had racial undertones," he said. "But it’s not our belief that this was a racially motivated crime. This was more of a vulnerable-victim motivated crime. I think it probably would have happened to anybody that was in the same kind of circumstances and mental state as the victim here.”




That is a horrible crime obviously.  But the DA said there was no evidence of it being a hate crime.  In this case in Chicago, there definitely is.


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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: Crystal G]
    #23984917 - 01/05/17 07:19 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

Well, fuck. Those are comparable crimes and should have had the same life in prison sentencing.

But also, the government shouldn't be arbiters of life or death. Execution is just not the kind of message we need to be sending to the troves of dumb asses in america. When you live in a country which is wrought with violence and the support of war, the last thing you need is to encourage the pursuit of revenge.


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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: Chakra Shock] * 1
    #23984920 - 01/05/17 07:20 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

Except for that motherfucker in South Carolina that shot up that church.  They can kill him.  Fine by me.


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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: Senor_Doobie] * 1
    #23984927 - 01/05/17 07:22 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

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Hemmer went on to claim that there was no racial motivation behind Howard's actions stating. "I will say that there are things that we found going around that school and that locker room involving a lot of the parties here that had racial undertones," he said. "But it’s not our belief that this was a racially motivated crime. This was more of a vulnerable-victim motivated crime. I think it probably would have happened to anybody that was in the same kind of circumstances and mental state as the victim here.”




That is a horrible crime obviously.  But the DA said there was no evidence of it being a hate crime.  In this case in Chicago, there definitely is.




Even if it wasn't a hate crime. You don't think that it's kind of a big deal that the perpetrator isn't even going to prison for TORTURING and RAPING a disabled kid? :crankey: :freshwtf:

At least when black people are caught committing these kind of crimes, they usually serve long sentences in jail. Bet you anything these 4 kids in the news will be sentenced to close to 10+ years.


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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: Crystal G]
    #23984930 - 01/05/17 07:23 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

He was sentenced to ten years...it's insufficient.  Definitely.


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Re: hood rats kidnap and torture autistic kid [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #23984936 - 01/05/17 07:25 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

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He was sentenced to ten years...it's insufficient.  Definitely.




Where did you get that from? It clearly states he accepted the charge and will be sentenced to 2-3 years of probation and required to serve more than 300 hours of community service.

He would only get 10 years if he violated his probation. What a joke. I bet you anything at least these 4 kids in the news will be sentenced to close to 10 years.

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While in court on Friday, Howard accepted the charge and will be sentenced to two to three years of probation and will be required to serve more than 300 hours of community service. Should he complete his sentence without violation of probation or committing any future crimes, he could have his conviction erradicated completely. Any violation of the probation terms could result in Howard serving 10 years in prison with a fine of up to $50,000.




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