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Re: Does a predatory elite exploit our natural storytelling genius to control us? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #24012533 - 01/15/17 04:12 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)

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wait a minute, you lack evidence about Putin puttin Trump uP?
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/13/opinion/trumps-pivotal-russian-test.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/06/us/politics/russia-hack-report.html
etc. etc.




Which would then, if true, (and I am not claiming it is) would mean, for you, that the establishment here in the West do not want Trump for president, hence they are pissed off Putin helped him win?


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Re: Does a predatory elite exploit our natural storytelling genius to control us? [Re: zzripz]
    #24012781 - 01/15/17 06:16 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)

More like the establishment in Russia is the current regime altogether.


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Re: Does a predatory elite exploit our natural storytelling genius to control us? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #24013728 - 01/16/17 03:24 AM (7 years, 14 days ago)

if this 'thing' I am attempting to unveil is anything, it is more transnational


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Re: Does a predatory elite exploit our natural storytelling genius to control us? [Re: zzripz]
    #24016583 - 01/17/17 05:42 AM (7 years, 13 days ago)

So how to understand the Trump story then on a subtextual way?

But first, how are many conditioned to view him and the system In a literalist way? IE, Donald Trump, a reality TV billionaire--'your fired'--celeb with a funny hairdo, 'politically incorrect', is suddenly your choice for President of the United States of America...?

:strokebeard:

It seems his role is a man for 'the people' and against the 'New World Order'

:strokebeard:

No matter what shenanigans he is claimed to have got up to he can do no wrong in their eyes, and he even bragged, when speeching for the top job of president, that even if he shot someone on the street, he still would be seen to be alright by his followers (or words to that effect). How super confident is that?

:strokebeard:

Subtext


Part of their subtext are numbers, both numerology and gematria (where letters of alphabets are numbered)

Why would 'they', a predatory elite, use numbers to code events (and other reasons), etc? Before wondering this, or throwing this out as 'conspiracy theory', play with it and learn the patterns and meanings they 'may' be using. The subtext of their stories:

Apparently Donald Trump's birthday is June 14, 1946

If you use this calculator you find that on Trump's first say as President of the U.S, it will be exactly 70 years, 7 months, and 7 weeks duration from his date of birth to that day of 21st January 2017. Dropping the zero thus gives triple 7s:

777

And this is also 5777 on the Hebrew calendar. And if you sum the date of presidency, eg 21/1/2017 eg 2+1+1+2+1+7 = 14 (1+4+=5 . So there we have all the same numbers as year of Hebrew date. The duration of 777 and date = 5

is someone trying to tell 'us' something? 'For those who understandeth'?

So what is the relevance OF 7 7 7?

Well did you know that the London Bombings, which were a follow-on European 'war on terror' atrocity post '9/11'? This bombing happened on July 7th 2005. So let us break the date down:

July is 7th month, the day was 7th day, and the years digits when added eg 2 + 5 = 7, hence there is the 777 signature. Part of the subtext of that terrible story!

In Hebrew gematria 'order out of chaos' = 777



Now, 'Order out of Chaos' derives from the Latin 'ORDO AB CHAO' which is the motto of the top ranking Freemasonic 33rd degree of initiation, and in the next video presentation you will see how the mass media uses this number, 33, (as it does 777) as subtext to their stories!



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Re: Does a predatory elite exploit our natural storytelling genius to control us? [Re: zzripz]
    #24016782 - 01/17/17 08:46 AM (7 years, 13 days ago)

Lol numerology. Don't you think a predatory elite would be intelligent enough to use a secret message method that all the crazies aren't already experts in?


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Re: Does a predatory elite exploit our natural storytelling genius to control us? [Re: clock_of_omens]
    #24016799 - 01/17/17 08:54 AM (7 years, 13 days ago)

Oh shit wait. 9/11. Take 9 - 1 - 1 and you get 7. Three of the planes reached their destinations. So 7 3 times is 777. Coincidence?


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Re: Does a predatory elite exploit our natural storytelling genius to control us? [Re: clock_of_omens]
    #24016818 - 01/17/17 09:06 AM (7 years, 13 days ago)

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Oh shit wait. 9/11. Take 9 - 1 - 1 and you get 7. Three of the planes reached their destinations. So 7 3 times is 777. Coincidence?




Except that zero planes were used at four destination points, so zero x 4 is still zero.


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Re: Does a predatory elite exploit our natural storytelling genius to control us? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #24016867 - 01/17/17 09:31 AM (7 years, 13 days ago)

Wha? Alright 9/11/2001. Add the year 2+1 = 3. So we're back at 777. It just doesn't end.


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Re: Does a predatory elite exploit our natural storytelling genius to control us? [Re: clock_of_omens]
    #24017162 - 01/17/17 11:41 AM (7 years, 13 days ago)

your sums make no sense to me. Care to explain them?


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Re: Does a predatory elite exploit our natural storytelling genius to control us? [Re: clock_of_omens]
    #24017168 - 01/17/17 11:44 AM (7 years, 13 days ago)

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Lol numerology. Don't you think a predatory elite would be intelligent enough to use a secret message method that all the crazies aren't already experts in?




So your implying I am a 'crazie'?

Do you rate your mum, dad, girlfriend, boyfriend, friends, etc as intelligent? Are any of them familiar with this do you know?


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Re: Does a predatory elite exploit our natural storytelling genius to control us? [Re: zzripz]
    #24017187 - 01/17/17 11:50 AM (7 years, 13 days ago)

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your sums make no sense to me. Care to explain them?




Lol, I'm just randomly adding numbers together until I reach the conclusion I want, same as you. Also the first day of Trump is the 20th not the 21st, so your numerology fails.


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Re: Does a predatory elite exploit our natural storytelling genius to control us? [Re: clock_of_omens]
    #24017588 - 01/17/17 02:35 PM (7 years, 13 days ago)

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Oh shit wait. 9/11. Take 9 - 1 - 1 and you get 7. Three of the planes reached their destinations. So 7 3 times is 777. Coincidence?

Wha? Alright 9/11/2001. Add the year 2+1 = 3. So we're back at 777. It just doesn't end.

Lol, I'm just randomly adding numbers together until I reach the conclusion I want, same as you. Also the first day of Trump is the 20th not the 21st, so your numerology fails.




well how do you know you haven't just found out another layer(s)?

As I see it, your approach ridicules straight off and so you stop looking. That is not very scientific, or inquisitive.

As far as I am aware Trump's inauguration is from 19th - 21st? He is only President on 20th for part of the day. His real first full day as president is the 21st. And 21 is 7+7+7 also.


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Re: Does a predatory elite exploit our natural storytelling genius to control us? [Re: zzripz]
    #24017693 - 01/17/17 03:18 PM (7 years, 13 days ago)

Numerology is in no way scientific. It's complete nonsense.

Inauguration day is the 20th. That's his first day as president. You can't just say 'nah ignore that I'm going to arbitrarily consider his first full day so that my numerology makes sense'.

Aside from that, wtf are you on about? Inauguration day is the same day every four years. You think the predatory elite somehow decided Trump would be president this time just so his birthday would be exactly the right amount of time from the day after his inauguration? For what reason? The shit numerologists come out with makes no sense whatsoever.


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Re: Does a predatory elite exploit our natural storytelling genius to control us? [Re: zzripz]
    #24017705 - 01/17/17 03:22 PM (7 years, 13 days ago)

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Oh shit wait. 9/11. Take 9 - 1 - 1 and you get 7. Three of the planes reached their destinations. So 7 3 times is 777. Coincidence?

Wha? Alright 9/11/2001. Add the year 2+1 = 3. So we're back at 777. It just doesn't end.

Lol, I'm just randomly adding numbers together until I reach the conclusion I want, same as you. Also the first day of Trump is the 20th not the 21st, so your numerology fails.




well how do you know you haven't just found out another layer(s)?

As I see it, your approach ridicules straight off and so you stop looking. That is not very scientific, or inquisitive.

As far as I am aware Trump's inauguration is from 19th - 21st? He is only President on 20th for part of the day. His real first full day as president is the 21st. And 21 is 7+7+7 also.




0*19 + .5*20 + 1*21 = 31 * 3 = 93 which was one of the 9/11 flight numbers. :eek:


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Re: Does a predatory elite exploit our natural storytelling genius to control us? [Re: clock_of_omens]
    #24017861 - 01/17/17 04:28 PM (7 years, 13 days ago)

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Numerology is in no way scientific. It's complete nonsense.

Inauguration day is the 20th. That's his first day as president. You can't just say 'nah ignore that I'm going to arbitrarily consider his first full day so that my numerology makes sense'.

Aside from that, wtf are you on about? Inauguration day is the same day every four years. You think the predatory elite somehow decided Trump would be president this time just so his birthday would be exactly the right amount of time from the day after his inauguration? For what reason? The shit numerologists come out with makes no sense whatsoever.




You jump to conclusions.

I never meant numerology is scientific. I meant your approach to looking into it is not scientific, or inquisitive, or even skeptical, in the original meaning of that term.

You have already made your mind up!

siiigh, his first full day is the 21st, and it is not my numerology.

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Aside from that, wtf are you on about? Inauguration day is the same day every four years. You think the predatory elite somehow decided Trump would be president this time just so his birthday would be exactly the right amount of time from the day after his inauguration? For what reason? The shit numerologists come out with makes no sense whatsoever.




Yes I am saying that.


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Re: Does a predatory elite exploit our natural storytelling genius to control us? [Re: Crazy_Horse]
    #24017866 - 01/17/17 04:31 PM (7 years, 13 days ago)

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zzripz said:
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Oh shit wait. 9/11. Take 9 - 1 - 1 and you get 7. Three of the planes reached their destinations. So 7 3 times is 777. Coincidence?

Wha? Alright 9/11/2001. Add the year 2+1 = 3. So we're back at 777. It just doesn't end.

Lol, I'm just randomly adding numbers together until I reach the conclusion I want, same as you. Also the first day of Trump is the 20th not the 21st, so your numerology fails.




well how do you know you haven't just found out another layer(s)?

As I see it, your approach ridicules straight off and so you stop looking. That is not very scientific, or inquisitive.

As far as I am aware Trump's inauguration is from 19th - 21st? He is only President on 20th for part of the day. His real first full day as president is the 21st. And 21 is 7+7+7 also.




0*19 + .5*20 + 1*21 = 31 * 3 = 93 which was one of the 9/11 flight numbers. :eek:





I am not understanding this bit:
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0*19 + .5*20 + 1*21 = 31 * 3




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Re: Does a predatory elite exploit our natural storytelling genius to control us? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #24017884 - 01/17/17 04:38 PM (7 years, 13 days ago)

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chicken and egg:
this complex issue has more than one interpretation:
when intoxicated on mushrooms, or some other brain state modification (including dreaming/meditation/yoga/prayer etc.), a person may have a vision - a highly detailed tableau in which figures writhe and cavort fiendishly - temptingly - exquisitely - horribly.

mind can produce such experiences/visions without direct prompting from any dominating figure(s) or forces.

Moreover, paintings like the temptation of saint anthony, or buddha facing mara, provide a portrayal of the human mind struggling to be consistent in the face of extreme distraction.

I think you are off base with these examples, although manipulation is and has been afoot in many areas to greater and lesser degrees. To achieve the level of manipulation you describe a KGB would have had to exist that was 100 times as powerful than it is today.




Agreed.  Also, stories are told to control behavior in the babes, because they are naive and innocent/inexperienced.  ie. Boogey Man in the woods tale around the campfire at night ensures to some extent that they will not venture out into the woods at 11pm and get lost and eaten by a bear - control through a story via fear of the unknown - some parts of religion and politics are very much like this only greater, but for those that see through it generally its mostly for the greater good. .


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    #24018025 - 01/17/17 05:51 PM (7 years, 13 days ago)

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I never meant numerology is scientific. I meant your approach to looking into it is not scientific, or inquisitive, or even skeptical, in the original meaning of that term.




It doesn't take much thinking power to realize that numerology is just coincidence with delusions of grandeur.

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Yes I am saying that.




Lol, that's completely ridiculous. You didn't answer for what reason your predatory elite would do such a thing?


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Re: Does a predatory elite exploit our natural storytelling genius to control us? [Re: clock_of_omens]
    #24018141 - 01/17/17 06:38 PM (7 years, 13 days ago)

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zzripz said:
I never meant numerology is scientific. I meant your approach to looking into it is not scientific, or inquisitive, or even skeptical, in the original meaning of that term.




It doesn't take much thinking power to realize that numerology is just coincidence with delusions of grandeur.

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Yes I am saying that.




Lol, that's completely ridiculous. You didn't answer for what reason your predatory elite would do such a thing?





I think you have misunderstanding. I am not claiming numerology and gematria are to be followed and believed. I am looking at what they believe.
You sound then like a coincidence theorist if you mean it is all just coincidence with no method. But when you look deeper into this you see different.

Like I say, you cannot research this subtle subject because you have already concluded it is crazy!

Why would they do what? Plan for Trump to be president? Same reason past presidents are chosen. To fit their agenda.


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Re: Does a predatory elite exploit our natural storytelling genius to control us? [Re: zzripz]
    #24018357 - 01/17/17 07:53 PM (7 years, 13 days ago)

Dates of random events corresponding to vague numerological ideas is definitely coincidence. One can easily cherry pick events and manipulate numbers to draw conclusions. It's called confirmation bias.

So did they pick Trump to fit their agenda or did they pick him so that his birthday would have a numerological connection with the day after his inauguration? What reason do they have for picking someone who has a numerological connection? Surely they know that the conspiracy theorists of the world are expert number manipulators. Why would they pick a secret message system that is so easily broken? All this planning of events just to have a supposed subtext of 'order from chaos'. None of it makes sense.

You should probably do a little less research into numerology and a little more into logic.


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