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Re: Does a predatory elite exploit our natural storytelling genius to control us? [Re: KauaiOrca]
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KauaiOrca said: Are we a self directed cut off planet evolving from random proteins that just so happened to get in the right order for consciousness to spark ... magically ... or are we more a farm or experiment of an ultra advanced race? I think the latter is far more likely. The idea that dirt has some inherent motivation to create molecular arrangements that create consciousness with a visciously unbending desire to survive and replicate is far fetched ... at least to me.
Something more complex is less far fetched. 
I find it virtually impossible to imagine a more complex theory than somehow DNA is assembled randomly in a way that creates cells that then have an inherent desire to survive, consume and replicate AND EVOLVE into higher and higher beings until eventually, you're building rockets to the stars. Where does this motivation to survive and evolve come from? Where does the incredible intelligence of a simple cell to survive come from? Accidental arrangement of proteins? That's laughable.
It's far more simple to theorize that consciousness has existed long before material form and is far more powerful and durable. That beings of inconceivable conscious awareness exist that have far more knowledge of the laws that govern the multi-verse. That much the way we garden and tend to our pets and projects, ultra evolved beings do something similar.
Consciousness from lifeless chemicals? That's a big stretch.
Even if it existed before in the spiritual realm, it has to transform to the material realm step by step implementing time and causality. The molecules and atoms didn't form randomly. It's about correlations, harmonics and electric fields... but it takes time.............
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Re: Does a predatory elite exploit our natural storytelling genius to control us? [Re: BlueCoyote]
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KauaiOrca said: Are we a self directed cut off planet evolving from random proteins that just so happened to get in the right order for consciousness to spark ... magically ... or are we more a farm or experiment of an ultra advanced race? I think the latter is far more likely. The idea that dirt has some inherent motivation to create molecular arrangements that create consciousness with a visciously unbending desire to survive and replicate is far fetched ... at least to me.
Something more complex is less far fetched. 
I find it virtually impossible to imagine a more complex theory than somehow DNA is assembled randomly in a way that creates cells that then have an inherent desire to survive, consume and replicate AND EVOLVE into higher and higher beings until eventually, you're building rockets to the stars. Where does this motivation to survive and evolve come from? Where does the incredible intelligence of a simple cell to survive come from? Accidental arrangement of proteins? That's laughable.
It's far more simple to theorize that consciousness has existed long before material form and is far more powerful and durable. That beings of inconceivable conscious awareness exist that have far more knowledge of the laws that govern the multi-verse. That much the way we garden and tend to our pets and projects, ultra evolved beings do something similar.
Consciousness from lifeless chemicals? That's a big stretch.
Even if it existed before in the spiritual realm, it has to transform to the material realm step by step implementing time and causality. The molecules and atoms didn't form randomly. It's about correlations, harmonics and electric fields... but it takes time.............
Time may or may no be understood and/or experienced the same way we do by ultra advanced beings. Just as we watch TV now with a fast forward, stop, rewind, record, review function, it may be possible that at some level, you experience reality this way.
I suspect, on the cosmic scale of intelligence, we are barely out of the crib in terms of understanding how it all works. But I do think we are out of the crib and with our new found technology in genetic engineering, we are on the verge of self engineering our species for a major evolutionary upgrade.
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Re: Does a predatory elite exploit our natural storytelling genius to control us? [Re: KauaiOrca]
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Time may or may no be understood and/or experienced the same way we do by ultra advanced beings. Just as we watch TV now with a fast forward, stop, rewind, record, review function, it may be possible that at some level, you experience reality this way.
yeah lol, but time has some meaning (function) in our physical realm...
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I suspect, on the cosmic scale of intelligence, we are barely out of the crib in terms of understanding how it all works. But I do think we are out of the crib and with our new found technology in genetic engineering, we are on the verge of self engineering our species for a major evolutionary upgrade.
I wished this transformation came from some -none human- made, natural influence. Those humans always tend to inflict those errors
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Re: Does a predatory elite exploit our natural storytelling genius to control us? [Re: BlueCoyote]
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Re: Does a predatory elite exploit our natural storytelling genius to control us? [Re: zzripz]
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You might have some valuable points but you shouldn't have addressed them to ME ?!
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Re: Does a predatory elite exploit our natural storytelling genius to control us? [Re: KauaiOrca]
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I wouldn't agree to there being thousands and thousands of secret societies. A secret society is defined by secret oaths, and threats to members breaking the oaths, and rituals. Did you ever see that video which shows both W Bush and John Kerry being asked about the Skull and Bones? They both said using similar body language they were sworn to secrecy, and then quickly changed the subject. VERY revealing! I mean both were in the role of becoming president of the United States.
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My own opinion is that we have a completely new system of control now that has evolved way beyond the RCC > Templar > FreeMason > Secret Societies model that a lot of people get all worked up over. I think it's more chaordic and a lot less organized.
My opinion is that they are the ultimate control freaks, so much so they are obsessed with numbers and symbolism riddled throughout their activities, building measurements, placements, etc etc.
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Now, if one of these societies has indeed (sex Magik) cracked the code of incarnation and can control that process as in direct the incarnation of souls into families they want, then that would be one helluva powerful offer to make to get cooperation as in ... "Hey, Mr. Obama, we can insure that your family, for eternity, will be part of the planetary ruling class ... all we need from you during your presidency is ... "
Well it is said that they think of themselves as gods. In fact the number connected with the 'Skull and Bones' is 322, and in the Bible is says:
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Genesis 3:22 New King James Version (NKJV) 22 Then the Lord God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever”—
A big belief/story these groups believe is apotheosis, and thus they love the Darwinian theory of evolution. This fits with their eugenics beliefs that many people are less evolved than them and so deserve to be exploited and even suffering genocide. Their main story now is eugenics with knobs on it, is so-called 'transhumanism' (H+ for short).
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Without some kind of offer like that, I doubt there is as much central coordination as one would think. However, I do think the possibility of an ultra advanced race that is way above humans on the IQ scale is behind a lot of the mysteries on this planet is very high. The way they illustrated this in the movie Prometheus was very interesting, I thought and very possible.
I was gonna watch the movie--shown on our TV last week, but forgot to record it. This is an interesting and complex question. it is true that these people love to 'channel' so-called 'higher entities'. Think of Helena Blavasky and Alice Bailey who claimed to channel 'secret chiefs' , and Aleister Crowley claimed to have dictated his occult religion Thelema via his wife channeling an entity he called Aiwass.
So next question is what ARE these beings? But the question before that should be WHY should we even believe them?
If they did, this doesn't mean that thes entities are 'real' and what they say is the 'truth'. What they could be is extensions of these peoples racist, reactionary elitist ecocidal mindsets. Mindsets which are cold and clinical and warn against ecstatic immersion where you would feel interconnected with nature and others.
I am aware that the main theme OF the film Prometheus is the story that we have been created by 'advanced beings'. And like said, guess who think of themselves as advanced beings...? So such a story very much suits THEIR story they want us immersed in! Feeling all lowly and in need of their great superior matrix.
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Re: Does a predatory elite exploit our natural storytelling genius to control us? [Re: zzripz]
#24038959 - 01/25/17 03:26 PM (7 years, 5 days ago) |
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So what is the Story of thee Old Fart, of course I mean President Trump. (in UK trump means to fart)?
The lamestream media is making out he is against the 'world'--ie the New World order/corporatism/globalism, and for the ordinary working man of the United States who 'God' loves with all 'his' might.
Well he sure isn't for the native Americans who care about the water, as he has just passed the go ahead for the Dakota pipeline.
He also is allowing CIA torture camps because he claims 'torture works'...and of course his famous 'Wall'.
This sounds to me just the same old evil sht that was going on before.
So can you see the 'Satan' story vs 'God' story and vice verse theme agoing on?
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Re: Does a predatory elite exploit our natural storytelling genius to control us? [Re: zzripz]
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You had all the stuff about 'Pizzagate' from both the mainstream media, and the alt.right media likeneing the 'left' to satan-worshipping child pedophile sacrificers. So that is 'Satan'
And then you had the alt.right looking to Trump as their hero and saviour who will save them from the New World Order, Satan, with the help of 'God'.
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Re: Does a predatory elite exploit our natural storytelling genius to control us? [Re: zzripz]
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To me, the primary reason that Trump is so successful politically is that decades of top down pushing that more and more tolerance is needed of people that are intolerant, unmotivated, incompetent, violent and dangerous because:
- The playing field isn't level - They need more help - Their problems are not their fault - Tolerance and diversity is the answer, not accountability - The system is not fair so they deserve endless handouts - Even if we can't afford massive social safety nets, we'll do the anyway and just borrow the money for it, even if that puts our future at great risk
A big slice of the population is tired of this approach.
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Re: Does a predatory elite exploit our natural storytelling genius to control us? [Re: KauaiOrca]
#24040692 - 01/26/17 08:41 AM (7 years, 4 days ago) |
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Trump is vile, ugly, hideous. He is everything I loath, and hate. Same is so with the one that didn't get in, Hillary Clinton, and same for Obama, Buch senior and Bush junior etc etc etc. They all belong to the vile, ugly, hideous club which demands for membership sociopathic lack of empathy.
He supports torture. He is ecocidal. He is a liar. he promotes torture and then next breath says 'God is great'!
People that support these fiends support evil. They are blind by the evil storymaking that makes them think the ugly world we live in is normal and good.
I am not talking about 'evil' as in 'Satan' = evil versus 'God' = good either. I am, in this thread. trying to undermine that pseudo plot, because that is also part OF the evil storytelling that is playing out to this day and entrenched in the public psyche. We MUST start questioning it and seeing through it.
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Re: Does a predatory elite exploit our natural storytelling genius to control us? [Re: zzripz]
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That the Talmudic zionist cabal see Christians as enemy #1 has me rethinking the dismissive view I've held of Christianity in the past...
The alt-right is starting to see how similar Donald is to his cousin Hillary... but many still don't get it, even though he sucks down more Zionist cock than Hillary would choke on.
But I do see what you mean: repeatedly fleeced by the next Demican or Republicrat "savior" that's gonna do it all for us, but then does the opposite.
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Re: Does a predatory elite exploit our natural storytelling genius to control us? [Re: flickedbic]
#24041569 - 01/26/17 02:58 PM (7 years, 4 days ago) |
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well they also knew about and want him to build his stuupid as his hairdo 'wall'. But his spiel catered for the Bible Belt brigade who are all about 'God' vs' Satan' and believe in 'The Rapture' etc.
Just because they are the oppressed don't mean they aint dumb. That is the point also of this inquiry. it is waking up to our possible dumbness, and numbness. We are all numb from the relentless millennia onslaught of stories set on us to divide and control us not only from others, and other species, and the natural world but also from our selves.
So it is no little thing to start waking up from all this.
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Re: Does a predatory elite exploit our natural storytelling genius to control us? [Re: zzripz]
#24043089 - 01/27/17 07:22 AM (7 years, 3 days ago) |
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You can get good insight into the situation we are in by seeing how cult leaders control their victims. There was a docu. about one last night. This was in London and the cult leader, Aravindan Balakrishnan, and his wife, got these cultists, including his own daughter, mindcontrolled for about 30 years!!
He told them that he controlled this all powerful electronic satellite warfare machine he called 'Jacky' (you couldn't make this sht up, but someone did!), and if anyone strayed from his group it would destroy them, and that their 'bad action' were the cause of catastrophic world events, like earthquakes etc.
Compare with the threat of an 'Almighty God' in the sky watching your every move, and judging you if you defy the story being imposed on you.
But another very important way they control you, which has been mentioned before but needs ongoing remembrance is how they get you to judge yourself as bad, unworthy, and deserving of abuse.
A good example is how this mean vile dehumanized culture treat people who are kicked out of their homes. the politicians and their media demonize such people as deserving their plight which will also include sleeping outside in the freezing cold in a sleeping bag, or cardboard box, etc. I was reading about this recently, and found that even people who found themselves in this situation were also agreeing they were to blame. Being made to feel like sht. these people have often already been terribly abused by others from childhood, and seek escape through drugs (which includes alcohol).
I have seen videos where people attack people who have to sleep on the street, even setting fire to their boxes, sleeping bags and tents, spitting on them, kicking them etc. I have actually seen in my hometown a good looking lad who was sleeping on the streets, and these males in suits attacked him and one bit the end of his nose off!! This of course has left him seriously traumatized.
So the sociopathic lack of empathy from the ones at the top drips down like toxic poison making the ones at the bottom think it is right to treat others this way, and that they will get away with it, because the people they abuse are to them non-people.
THIS is how serious, destructive, and ingrained toxic stories are!
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Re: Does a predatory elite exploit our natural storytelling genius to control us? [Re: zzripz]
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This is a great video exposing the subtext of the Donald Trump Story!
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Re: Does a predatory elite exploit our natural storytelling genius to control us? [Re: zzripz]
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I've not given up on this thread/inquiry. THE major 'story' of these times right now is 'President Trump'. Trumped up by mass media and 'alt' right media as being either a danger to the world (ie the 'new world order') OR for the latter, the saviour who is going to help the downtrodden bla bla.
Like I have shown above, they create these stories/myths in layers, and it is the deeper layers, of course, which expose what is really going on. They want you to accept their sur-face story. The propaganda.
Some people may fear looking to close at this because they feel lost in the wilderness. IE if you reveal that the choice of 'Left' or 'Right' as a political choice is a sham, many people will feel there is no where else to go. But I encourage not worrying about that and to just keep questioning, and THAT is where the real energy comes from instead of conformist death/the sucking of your energy by these LIES, etc.
In the deeper layers they use all kinds of symbolism also, and this can be daunting. But I think if you know the original source then this will make things fall into place. the orignal source are the psychedelics. The consciousness-changing substances. They WANT to control consciousness, hence their relentless use of propaganda and occultism.
Most authoritarian hierachies BOTh West and East forbid psychedelic inspiration because they want to control your consciousness.
Anyway I am continuing studying stuff about Prez Trump and hope to explore what I dis-cover later.
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I have been watching videos where you see the ranting Trump say oever and oever in different places how 'ISIS are chopping heads off Christians' (will show these later. And another one he is saying how the Internet MUSt be controlling because they are recruiting 'SO many' young people to 'ISIS' 'ISIS' ISIS' ISIS' 'chopping heads off' Chopping heads off offfof of of of of... etcetcetc
I remember W Bush confessing that his role is to repeat over and over so as to implant the ideas into peoples heads. THIS is a major tactic of propaganda! Repetition.
This is what they did with '9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11' using that term over and over and over
In fact it is USA and western alliance which has created and funded ISIS as their proxy soldiers. He errm never mentions that...
Trump is a Zionist puppet:
Israel Demands World Internet Censorship
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Re: Does a predatory elite exploit our natural storytelling genius to control us? [Re: zzripz]
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Re: Does a predatory elite exploit our natural storytelling genius to control us? [Re: clock_of_omens]
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i don't believe there is a world elite few that are evil and want to subvert humanity to their own whims...lest we're talking about people who love control & money, those people exist, but they don't control everything...what they control is the perception to things, within their ability to do so- of course they coordinate together to do this, of course, in order to make more money and make themselves more powerful. however, it's not for world domination, it's for their own sake of being powerful and rich...and these elites, as aforementioned, do not "control" everything...what they do is- as everything coapts to one another, naturally, as culture divides, contracts, back and forth, and assimilates when it can incorporate into itself- these 'elite' try to, at best, alter the perceptions of these coapted features of culture and society towards their own whims.
non-powerful people can do this too, and people are starting to realize how they can coordinate. all in the name of power. but these things are not concocted more than they are realized, in essence, as cultural forces coming together/pulling apart.
ie, these symbols...which have been around since time immemorial, as humans have conceived of them, these symbols are not "hijacked" by evil forces...they are just hijacked by ignorance.
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watch this space and we look look behind the scenes of the story...
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Re: Does a predatory elite exploit our natural storytelling genius to control us? [Re: zzripz]
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watch this space and we look look behind the scenes of the story...
IMHO, 9/11 changed everything and put a much bigger risk/reward ratio into the decision of whether or not to make police presence more subtle or more militant-like. The desire to have a very small police footprint in society became seen as too risky and too big an invitation for the bad players out there, real and imaginary.
I also think narco violence, sustained for decades along with the glamorization by the media, film and gaming industry has enabled a more receptive public to the idea of militarized presence in the streets.
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