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blackdragon999
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Re: Do you think there are other realms or universes? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#23985427 - 01/05/17 10:49 PM (7 years, 25 days ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: "There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know." - Donald Rumsfeld.

Donald Rumsfelt pretty bad man...
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Re: Do you think there are other realms or universes? [Re: PreparationH] 1
#23985445 - 01/05/17 10:59 PM (7 years, 25 days ago) |
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Yes i believe there are other realms and universes, but only one that really matters atm, which is the one right here baby
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LogicaL Chaos
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Re: Do you think there are other realms or universes? [Re: blackdragon999]
#23985496 - 01/05/17 11:30 PM (7 years, 25 days ago) |
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But that quote is golden.
Really sums up what Socrates was trying to say...
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Re: Do you think there are other realms or universes? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#23985518 - 01/05/17 11:45 PM (7 years, 25 days ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: But gazelles cannot post on the shroomery pondering the existence of multiple Universes, therefore humans are special.
I'm a walrus. If I can do this, gazelles probably can too.
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blackdragon999
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Re: Do you think there are other realms or universes? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#23985526 - 01/05/17 11:48 PM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: But that quote is golden.
Really sums up what Socrates was trying to say...
If something is known as an unknown doesn't that make an unknown unknown a known unknown or perhaps a known known? I think about it therefore it exists.
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Re: Do you think there are other realms or universes? [Re: blackdragon999]
#23985563 - 01/06/17 12:07 AM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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God is more likely designed in man's image.
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Re: Do you think there are other realms or universes? [Re: blackdragon999]
#23985570 - 01/06/17 12:16 AM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Many-worlds_interpretation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consistent_histories
Basically everything that can happen does happen within the boundary conditions of the fundamental 4 forces (gravity isn't really a force but who fucking cares) and does so infinitely, but you could also consider it to be just once (it exists all-together in superposition-superspace like a block universe for conceptual understanding). Still, everything that could ever happen within the boundary conditions did happen; those histories/trajectories/probabilities do exist and time is an illusion. Thermal time seems to make most conceptual sense if you care to look it up. Oh, yeah, and free will is an illusion, as we are merely "choosing" from histories that already exist in the quantum realm. These are all implications of quantum theory, by the way; this shit isn't made up.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Path_integral_formulation
The thing that blows my mind is that DMT truly seems to go "beyond" a quantum realm of histories or potentials; it seems to be autonomous and exists under influence of different forces and/or dimensions.

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Re: Do you think there are other realms or universes? [Re: Around In Circles]
#23985583 - 01/06/17 12:25 AM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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Around In Circles said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Many-worlds_interpretation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consistent_histories
Basically everything that can happen does happen within the boundary conditions of the fundamental 4 forces (gravity isn't really a force but who fucking cares) and does so infinitely, but you could also consider it to be just once (it exists all-together in superposition-superspace like a block universe for conceptual understanding). Still, everything that could ever happen within the boundary conditions did happen; those histories/trajectories/probabilities do exist and time is an illusion. Thermal time seems to make most conceptual sense if you care to look it up. Oh, yeah, and free will is an illusion, as we are merely "choosing" from histories that already exist in the quantum realm. These are all implications of quantum theory, by the way; this shit isn't made up.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Path_integral_formulation
The thing that blows my mind is that DMT truly seems to go "beyond" a quantum realm of histories or potentials; it seems to be autonomous and exists under influence of different forces and/or dimensions.
 
by the way, that shit is just a theory
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blackdragon999
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Re: Do you think there are other realms or universes? [Re: ultramanjay]
#23985593 - 01/06/17 12:39 AM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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ultramanjay said: God is more likely designed in man's image.
What's this about God? ...did I miss something?
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Re: Do you think there are other realms or universes? [Re: blackdragon999]
#23985597 - 01/06/17 12:41 AM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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blackdragon999 said:
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ultramanjay said: God is more likely designed in man's image.
What's this about God? ...did I miss something?
You missed OP's post?
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blackdragon999
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Re: Do you think there are other realms or universes? [Re: Around In Circles]
#23985609 - 01/06/17 12:52 AM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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Around In Circles said:
...These are all implications of quantum theory, by the way; this shit isn't made up....
 
Thank you for educating me on a bit of quantum mechanics... I am no Scientist, but I do know what a "Theory" is.
Edited by blackdragon999 (01/06/17 03:25 AM)
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Re: Do you think there are other realms or universes? [Re: ultramanjay]
#23985622 - 01/06/17 01:08 AM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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ultramanjay said:
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blackdragon999 said:
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ultramanjay said: God is more likely designed in man's image.
What's this about God? ...did I miss something?
You missed OP's post?
No, I just saw that your post was aimed at me directly. But now that we are on this topic...please define the image of "God".
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Re: Do you think there are other realms or universes? [Re: blackdragon999]
#23985644 - 01/06/17 01:28 AM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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Each believer has their own definition of God. There are just traits/characteristics of "God" that is common to everyone's beliefs i.e; all powerful, loving, all knowing, etc. Such characteristics are what man sees as what his God should be. But that's just my opinion.
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Re: Do you think there are other realms or universes? [Re: Supachopped719] 1
#23985651 - 01/06/17 01:37 AM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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Supachopped719 said: Infinite universe, infinite possibilities.
Maybe we go through life getting reincarnated through every single universe, ad infinitum.
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blackdragon999
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Re: Do you think there are other realms or universes? [Re: ultramanjay]
#23985706 - 01/06/17 02:30 AM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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ultramanjay said: Each believer has their own definition of God. There are just traits/characteristics of "God" that is common to everyone's beliefs i.e; all powerful, loving, all knowing, etc. Such characteristics are what man sees as what his God should be. But that's just my opinion.
Usually monotheist people like to term God as Omnipotent, Omniscient and Omnipresent. Polytheists do not do this most of the time wouldn't use any of those as labels for their deities...at least not all three at once.
How God is defined by an individual in the natural world of is of course irrespective of whether or not "God" exists in a supernatural context.
Alas the journey into the supernatural is quite a personal journey. I wouldn't try to convince anyone of my own personal experiences...because they were intended for me.
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Re: Do you think there are other realms or universes? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#23985710 - 01/06/17 02:36 AM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said:

Asantes got a direct link to God. Lucky mofo! 
God is a part of you. Almost everybody can cultivate a personal relationship with him but its a matter of belief. Most people here have completely explained God away in their own minds and so are far away from direct communication with him.
I read a paper that assumed that in olden times peoples brains tended to function by their inner God telling them what to do. It seems plausible.
Maybe its pushed back as "the subconscious" in modern times and isnt intended as the subconscious, as something out of your perception.
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Re: Do you think there are other realms or universes? [Re: Asante] 1
#23985721 - 01/06/17 02:45 AM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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Asante said:
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LogicaL Chaos said:

Asantes got a direct link to God. Lucky mofo! 
God is a part of you. Almost everybody can cultivate a personal relationship with him but its a matter of belief. Most people here have completely explained God away in their own minds and so are far away from direct communication with him.
I read a paper that assumed that in olden times peoples brains tended to function by their inner God telling them what to do. It seems plausible.
Maybe its pushed back as "the subconscious" in modern times and isnt intended as the subconscious, as something out of your perception.
WHAT is God? Are we talking about an advanced being? Are we talking about the ultra uber creator of the universe that is aware of every thing all at once? Are we talking about a myth/story created to give us a paternal super human judge to keep us in line with fear and promises of the after life?
Which God are you communicating with? Lots to choose from.
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Re: Do you think there are other realms or universes? [Re: qman]
#23985728 - 01/06/17 02:48 AM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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I saw some video where they are discovering that our own brains uses quantum entanglement for communication between neurons. It appears neurons are just the cover for how the brain works, it goes much deeper than the surface.
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I think he is referring to Orch-OR theory. There has been a pub thread on the topic in the recent past.
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Re: Do you think there are other realms or universes? [Re: PreparationH]
#23985781 - 01/06/17 04:19 AM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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