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Re: Do you think there are other realms or universes? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23983491 - 01/05/17 10:04 AM (7 years, 25 days ago)

The Universe is constantly expanding and never-ending

Taking a shit-load of LSD at once unveils the true nature of reality but be warned, just because you bear witness to it first-hand does not mean you will understand it after the trip is over


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Re: Do you think there are other realms or universes? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23983526 - 01/05/17 10:20 AM (7 years, 25 days ago)

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Kinda hard to imagine the Universe existing only in it's own space.  That there is nothing outside the Universe.  For all we will ever know or detect the Universe is infinite.  Difference between infinitely knowable or is there more?

Tripping just right sometimes glimpses of other dimensions come into possibility.  So far there is nothing scientific about spirit realms?  Maybe we exist in spirit realms and this Universe is simply different.  Or did spirit realms exist from consciousness somehow holding on and creating?

Religion teaches that spirit realms existed first.  But we don't really know.  So that old thought indicates that spirit realms contain this realm.  Not that this realm contains the next realm.  Not tripping so I don't really think newly at this time.




The research that Robert Monroe and the Monroe Institute did where they were able to get two or more people in REM sleep, in two different locations, to meet in the exact same dream location/realm, hook up and explore together and communicate back to the lab with eye gestures gets about as close as I think possible that there are other "realms" our consciousness travels to that exist outside the personal space of our brain.


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Re: Do you think there are other realms or universes? [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #23983547 - 01/05/17 10:28 AM (7 years, 25 days ago)

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Morel Guy said:
Kinda hard to imagine the Universe existing only in it's own space.  That there is nothing outside the Universe.  For all we will ever know or detect the Universe is infinite.  Difference between infinitely knowable or is there more?

Tripping just right sometimes glimpses of other dimensions come into possibility.  So far there is nothing scientific about spirit realms?  Maybe we exist in spirit realms and this Universe is simply different.  Or did spirit realms exist from consciousness somehow holding on and creating?

Religion teaches that spirit realms existed first.  But we don't really know.  So that old thought indicates that spirit realms contain this realm.  Not that this realm contains the next realm.  Not tripping so I don't really think newly at this time.




The research that Robert Monroe and the Monroe Institute did where they were able to get two or more people in REM sleep, in two different locations, to meet in the exact same dream location/realm, hook up and explore together and communicate back to the lab with eye gestures gets about as close as I think possible that there are other "realms" our consciousness travels to that exist outside the personal space of our brain.




I posted about an idea for a similar experiment a few years back, surprised someone actually did that.

My idea was the same, except the pair would write out their experience after and read that out at the conclusion. Another idea was to have a 3rd party communicate a message to one, who would communicate it to the other, who would write it out and bring it in.

Anyways Ive had many OBEs and believe much of it as much as I believe that I woke up yesterday.


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Re: Do you think there are other realms or universes? [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #23983563 - 01/05/17 10:33 AM (7 years, 25 days ago)

So what about these mysterious radio signal bursts that have been received?  Do those hold any weight?  Do you guys think that they are man(species)-made or just a random signal bouncing around in space?

I think there is a good chance of alien life.  Whether it be another Earth full of humans or something entirely different.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/jan/04/radio-wave-source-discovered-space

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A mysterious type of radio wave from deep space, discovered only a decade ago, has been traced to a precise source for the first time, astronomers said on Wednesday.

So-called fast radio bursts (FRBs) picked up in 2016 by a telescope in New Mexico likely emanated from a dwarf galaxy some 3bn light years from Earth, the scientists reported in the journal Nature.

FRBs flash only for an micro-instant, and can emit as much energy in a millisecond as the sun does in 10,000 years.

Exactly what causes these high-energy surges of long waves at the far end of the electromagnetic spectrum remains the subject of intense debate.

The new discovery will not settle the issue, but it definitively eliminates several theories that had been in the running, scientists said.

There have been 18 fast radio bursts registered since 2007, but only one – observed in 2012 at the Arecibo Observatory in Puerto Rico, and dubbed FRB 121102 – recurred numerous times.

That prompted a team of scientists led by Shami Chatterjee of Cornell University to prepare in case it happened again.


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The discovery does not answer the core question of what produces these strange emanations that long escaped the notice of professional stargazers.

“Still, even without a clear answer, the finding is a real game-changer,” said Heino Falcke, an astronomer at Radboud University Nijmegen in the Netherlands who was not involved in the research.

Until recently, many experts speculated that FRBs are produced by cataclysmic events such as stars exploding into supernovas, or neutron stars collapsing into black holes.

While it is possible that these one-off scenarios also produce such bursts, all of them are inconsistent with multiple pulses such as those generated by FRB 121102.

The new data also dispels another widely discussed possibility, explained Shriharsh Tendulkar, a scientist at McGill University in Montreal.

“Before we knew the distance to any FRBs, several proposed explanations for their origins said they could be coming from within, or near, our own Milky Way,” he said.

Such a close source can now be ruled out – at least in this case.

“It’s not something in our backyard,” said co-author Casey Law, an astronomer at the University of California in Berkeley.

That still leaves plenty of room for speculation.

One of the top candidates, the astronomers suggested, is a neutron star – possibly a type known as a magnetar – surrounded by material ejected by a supernova explosion.

A neutron star – small but extremely dense – is formed by the gravitational collapse of a star not quite massive enough to produce a black hole when it explodes.

A magnetar is a type of neutron star with an extremely powerful magnetic field.




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Re: Do you think there are other realms or universes? [Re: Herbologist]
    #23983583 - 01/05/17 10:42 AM (7 years, 25 days ago)

There are all sorta of reasons radio signals are created by space stuff and not life.  Perhaps we will be lucky.  But until verified we just don't know.


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Re: Do you think there are other realms or universes? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23983626 - 01/05/17 11:10 AM (7 years, 25 days ago)

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Repertoire89 said:

I posted about an idea for a similar experiment a few years back, surprised someone actually did that.

My idea was the same, except the pair would write out their experience after and read that out at the conclusion. Another idea was to have a 3rd party communicate a message to one, who would communicate it to the other, who would write it out and bring it in.

Anyways Ive had many OBEs and believe much of it as much as I believe that I woke up yesterday.




They did some very sophisticated lab based research with dreamers hooked up to EKG's, REM eye monitoring ... Blind debriefing ... the whole tamale.  Clearly, from their research, their dream teams were meeting in locations (for instance, on the moon) and then carrying out a mission and then being individually debriefed as to what happened.  The results were mind blowing and there is no doubt at all that people were hooking up in a dream space and experiencing together the same "realm" for lack of a better term.

Tibetan Dream Yoga is exactly the same and so are esoteric Shamanic practices as well where the Shaman follows the journeying dreamer/tripper into the realm and assists them.

Clearly, there is a "place" that they are going where two or more people can share an experience similar to waking reality that suggests it's not just individual synapse firing that's creating these personal hallucinogenic realms.  They can be shared somehow.


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Re: Do you think there are other realms or universes? [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #23983654 - 01/05/17 11:23 AM (7 years, 25 days ago)

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They did some very sophisticated lab based research with dreamers hooked up to EKG's, REM eye monitoring ... Blind debriefing ... the whole tamale.  Clearly, from their research, their dream teams were meeting in locations (for instance, on the moon) and then carrying out a mission and then being individually debriefed as to what happened.  The results were mind blowing and there is no doubt at all that people were hooking up in a dream space and experiencing together the same "realm" for lack of a better term.

Tibetan Dream Yoga is exactly the same and so are esoteric Shamanic practices as well where the Shaman follows the journeying dreamer/tripper into the realm and assists them.

Clearly, there is a "place" that they are going where two or more people can share an experience similar to waking reality that suggests it's not just individual synapse firing that's creating these personal hallucinogenic realms.  They can be shared somehow.




Ive met people during OBEs on a number of occasions, during initiation ones guru should be there for example.
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Re: Do you think there are other realms or universes? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23983661 - 01/05/17 11:26 AM (7 years, 25 days ago)

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Ive met people during OBEs on a number of occasions, during initiation ones guru should be there for example.
Ima send you a :pm:




I've done a lot of lucid dreaming over the years and had some experiences that are hard to even explain in terms of entities out there ... well beyond anything I ever experienced with hallucinogens.  To me, lucid dreaming is, by far, the most "out there" I can get and the most scary and highest potential at the same time.  When you develop some skill at it, you know, for certain, that it isn't just happening "inside your head."  No way to prove it, but you most definitely know there are lots and lots of realms out there.


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Re: Do you think there are other realms or universes? [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #23983758 - 01/05/17 12:01 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_entanglement

I have always found this interesting, particles that interact with other particles even from very large distances that defy the speed of light.

There are potentially particles in our own brain that are communicating with particles on the other side of the universe instantaneously.  Weird stuff.


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Re: Do you think there are other realms or universes? [Re: qman]
    #23983919 - 01/05/17 01:18 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_entanglement

I have always found this interesting, particles that interact with other particles even from very large distances that defy the speed of light.

There are potentially particles in our own brain that are communicating with particles on the other side of the universe instantaneously.  Weird stuff.




My own wild ass guess theory is that thought itself is the one thing faster than light and the most refined substance in the universe and that GOD ... the big super intelligence of the multi-verse, is a junky for thought and consumes it in the here and  now and has set this entire multiverse up to generate as much thought as possible expanding forever to supply his voracious appetite.  "He" likes the most refined thought possible and has set up an amazing incentive system across the universe to develop more and more refined thought from more and more species.  Never ending, always expanding ... always growing.  WE are thought that is confused into thinking were a physical being.

I think "thought" is the proverbial "God Particle" and we just don't understand yet the potential of thought when you up the watts behind it.


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Re: Do you think there are other realms or universes? [Re: KauaiOrca] * 1
    #23984007 - 01/05/17 01:53 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

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qman said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_entanglement

I have always found this interesting, particles that interact with other particles even from very large distances that defy the speed of light.

There are potentially particles in our own brain that are communicating with particles on the other side of the universe instantaneously.  Weird stuff.




My own wild ass guess theory is that thought itself is the one thing faster than light and the most refined substance in the universe and that GOD ... the big super intelligence of the multi-verse, is a junky for thought and consumes it in the here and  now and has set this entire multiverse up to generate as much thought as possible expanding forever to supply his voracious appetite.  "He" likes the most refined thought possible and has set up an amazing incentive system across the universe to develop more and more refined thought from more and more species.  Never ending, always expanding ... always growing.  WE are thought that is confused into thinking were a physical being.

I think "thought" is the proverbial "God Particle" and we just don't understand yet the potential of thought when you up the watts behind it.




I saw some video where they are discovering that our own brains uses quantum entanglement for communication between neurons.  It appears neurons are just the cover for how the brain works, it goes much deeper than the surface.


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Re: Do you think there are other realms or universes? [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #23984015 - 01/05/17 01:57 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

I really enjoyed the responses here guys :smile: Sorry I can't really contribute much but some of you are basically spot on with my same ideas and it is nice and refreshing to see people at the same mind state I am at now in life

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Re: Do you think there are other realms or universes? [Re: qman] * 1
    #23984071 - 01/05/17 02:26 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

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that our own brains uses quantum entanglement for communication between neurons.  It appears neurons are just the cover for how the brain works, it goes much deeper than the surface.




In Hinduism there is the idea that the material universe forms around consciousness, as a manifestation of consciousness, and is only solid as it is in an objective sense by consensus between beings. The brain then, acts as a control panel for interaction between one and their environment, rather than being the source of consciousness... take care of that control panel :lol:


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    #23984103 - 01/05/17 02:40 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

Biocentrism-



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Re: Do you think there are other realms or universes? [Re: qman]
    #23984324 - 01/05/17 04:04 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

You're on to something qman!


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Re: Do you think there are other realms or universes? [Re: Asante] * 1
    #23984765 - 01/05/17 06:20 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

:holyfuckdude:

Asantes got a direct link to God. Lucky mofo! :awesome:


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Re: Do you think there are other realms or universes? [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #23984820 - 01/05/17 06:43 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

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I disagree, universe, it's just the one that we know as ours. Theres most likely multiple verses, I'd say. Probably infinite verses. I don't think other verses spill over into ours as dark matter though. Dark matter is just verse filler as far as I can imagine




What makes you think that there are multiple verses?




500 Trillion planets just ain't enough ... The neighborhood is getting more and more crowded.




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Re: Do you think there are other realms or universes? [Re: blackdragon999]
    #23984899 - 01/05/17 07:13 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

No one really knows anything.


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Re: Do you think there are other realms or universes? [Re: lets drive around]
    #23984971 - 01/05/17 07:38 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

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No one really knows anything.




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    #23985401 - 01/05/17 10:38 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

"There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know." - Donald Rumsfeld.

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