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Any thoughts? On a severly harsh punishing legl system?
#23982698 - 01/04/17 10:34 PM (7 years, 26 days ago) |
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I wish the legal system punished criminals by hanging them and cutting their heads with a guillotine but for severe crimes like rape, pedophilia ect. and 5th or 6th DUI or more than 3 felony's in 2 years or something or 3rd strike shoplifting and stealing. I also with they cut off hands of people who steal like Aladdin has made me believe the middle east is like. Public lashing would be nice too. A legal system that instead of sucking money from and creating criminals would cost very little money to enforce and make society better. But then try to take power and money away from the police That's why I mind my own business.
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Re: Any thoughts? On a severly harsh punishing legl system? [Re: Groo]
#23982702 - 01/04/17 10:38 PM (7 years, 26 days ago) |
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But its soooo barbaric thou! 
Maybe if it was the year 1800 it would feel appropiate.
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Re: Any thoughts? On a severly harsh punishing legl system? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#23982709 - 01/04/17 10:41 PM (7 years, 26 days ago) |
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Does your shed being broken into sound appropriate? What about your little sister tricked and sexually touched my an older man when she was 12? These crimes could be a thing of the past! Erase the tenancy for crime and everyone can live a productive life.
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Re: Any thoughts? On a severly harsh punishing legl system? [Re: Groo]
#23982712 - 01/04/17 10:43 PM (7 years, 26 days ago) |
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u still remember that?
In that case, off with their hands!
Just kidding.
But what if they change themselves and wanna be good people with no hands to work with?
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Re: Any thoughts? On a severly harsh punishing legl system? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#23982724 - 01/04/17 10:46 PM (7 years, 26 days ago) |
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Prosthetics. A sign a man who stole is a different man. But he must bear the mark to
I probably sound so fucked up. I just wish there were no beggars hunger crime or police and theft and everyone was good.
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Re: Any thoughts? On a severly harsh punishing legl system? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#23982737 - 01/04/17 10:51 PM (7 years, 26 days ago) |
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Someone on their 5th DUI doesn't need their life taken. They need real, working alcoholism counseling, and their vehicles taken from them.
Many people here are 3 time felons for stuff like marijuana possession or having guns. These people don't need their heads chopped off, nor their backs whipped.
Extremism in punishment changes the game, but it doesn't eliminate violent or sexual crimes. The happiness you'll derive from seeing a few people get what they deserve is far outweighed by the damage such a system does to the justice system overall.
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Re: Any thoughts? On a severly harsh punishing legl system? [Re: Groo]
#23982740 - 01/04/17 10:51 PM (7 years, 26 days ago) |
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I just hate how the cycle of police and jail keeps those fucking whitetrashniggers right back in there a week later because their too stupid to even come up with good hustle. And the police are just getting richer.
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Re: Any thoughts? On a severly harsh punishing legl system? [Re: Groo]
#23982750 - 01/04/17 10:54 PM (7 years, 26 days ago) |
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I agree about the police, fuck the police!
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Re: Any thoughts? On a severly harsh punishing legl system? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#23982756 - 01/04/17 10:56 PM (7 years, 26 days ago) |
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What's it gonna take to get everyone on the same page and living productive lives and everyone working and everyone living excellent lives with no crime.
I didn't put much thought into what a society that treated their criminals would actually do. But I have the thoughts and wanted to share them out loud to see where I am,
I also drive through our cities and see a bunch of fucking bums that could use a kick in the pants back to work. People abusing and using the system the fact that theres a system at all. I feel alot of things and probably under stand much less of how the world actually works and am probably w.
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Re: Any thoughts? On a severly harsh punishing legl system? [Re: Groo]
#23982757 - 01/04/17 10:57 PM (7 years, 26 days ago) |
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You don't think police get rich relative to their socio economic status in societies where harsh punishment is the norm though? Organized crime, government bribes, unjust courts are common in many locales where this stuff is the norm.
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Re: Any thoughts? On a severly harsh punishing legl system? [Re: Groo]
#23982765 - 01/04/17 11:00 PM (7 years, 26 days ago) |
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I guess the fact that not everyone has to be on the same page is one of the small details I am missing. Freedom and free will and the fact that people want to be free. To do whatever they want no matter how criminals lazy stupid or whatever it is they wanna do, do. Or something. Am I making any sense?
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Re: Any thoughts? On a severly harsh punishing legl system? [Re: Groo]
#23982767 - 01/04/17 11:00 PM (7 years, 26 days ago) |
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the state should never have the power to take life.
OP is a stupid
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Re: Any thoughts? On a severly harsh punishing legl system? [Re: PatrickKn]
#23982771 - 01/04/17 11:02 PM (7 years, 26 days ago) |
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You don't think police get rich relative to their socio economic status in societies where harsh punishment is the norm though?
Not in my mind where everyone in my bullshit utopian dream society works like a dog makes a ton of money and lives an amazing prosperous life.
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Re: Any thoughts? On a severly harsh punishing legl system? [Re: Groo]
#23982780 - 01/04/17 11:06 PM (7 years, 26 days ago) |
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I guess that means that you have 100 pecent confidence in the police as well as the legal system? From where you sit the system is totally infallible?
I often wonder how many truely innocent people have been killed or are currently in prison rigbt now.
Remember, a government that can legally justify killing can justify killing you.
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Re: Any thoughts? On a severly harsh punishing legl system? [Re: czech]
#23982786 - 01/04/17 11:08 PM (7 years, 26 days ago) |
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czech said: the state should never have the power to take life.
OP is a stupid
I respect that. But they ALREADY have the power to take a life and no recourse. Niggaz across the US getting killed by governments murderesses and state goons that will never be found if you mess around enough or complain enough. They'll erase you and your family will boo hoo and you'll be quiet after they kill you.
just try it, go upset the police enough see if they don't kill you without even a slap on the wrist.
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Re: Any thoughts? On a severly harsh punishing legl system? [Re: Groo]
#23982803 - 01/04/17 11:19 PM (7 years, 26 days ago) |
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I heard this on the radio yesterday
I hope you'll have access to BBC radio. Listen to this programme and see if you feel the same.
"Peter Pringle was sentenced to be hanged in Ireland in 1980. Sonia 'Sunny' Jacobs was sentenced to the electric chair in the United States in 1976. Sunny was accused of killing two police officers at a highway service area in Florida. Peter was accused of killing two police officers in rural Ireland during a botched bank robbery. Both had their sentences commuted to life and were later exonerated of their crimes. Peter and Sunny spent over 15 years each in prison for crimes they didn't commit."
As long as you have wrongful convictions state sponsored murder is abhorrent.
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Re: Any thoughts? On a severly harsh punishing legl system? [Re: deucedbi9]
#23982812 - 01/04/17 11:23 PM (7 years, 26 days ago) |
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They should be punished to which the crimes they committed. Therefore, if you raped a small child and then smashed his/her head with a giant rock and decided to dismember their body, then the same should be done to you.
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Re: Any thoughts? On a severly harsh punishing legl system? [Re: Groo]
#23982813 - 01/04/17 11:23 PM (7 years, 26 days ago) |
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Please. Cops are people who were too stupid to become gym teachers. As long as you ain't the average low life hoodlum negro you are free to do whatever drug trafficking you wish. I've been pulled over with eyes dialated to the point of invisible corneas and had a spare tire full of dope with no problems. I was 20 miles over the speed limit driving on LSD and he gave me a ticket for 80$. Be nice, don't look dangerous, and the pigs will love you. They love it when you kiss ass.
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Re: Any thoughts? On a severly harsh punishing legl system? [Re: Prozac] 1
#23982820 - 01/04/17 11:26 PM (7 years, 26 days ago) |
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NO! THIS IS NOT HOW IT WORKS! The pain you inflict on a child by raping them can never be compared to raping a grown man (probably wants it anyways) who rapes the pedophile? the kid? no. SO NOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT WE HAVE TO DO YOU FUCK? WE HAVE TO HIRE A COURT APPOINTED RAPIST TO FUCK PEDOPHILES IN THE ASS? IS THIS JUSTICE? IS THE MAN UNRAPED IF HE WAS EVENTUALLY PROVED INNOCENT?
fuckin idiots the lot of you
have you never heard about an eye for an eye? it does not work that was literally the most primitive law system ever created in human history!
ANCIENT FUCKING SUMER CAME UP WITH THAT AHAHHHHAHHHHHHHHHHH
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Re: Any thoughts? On a severly harsh punishing legl system? [Re: Groo] 1
#23982830 - 01/04/17 11:30 PM (7 years, 25 days ago) |
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LISTEN HERE ALL OF YOU!
PRISON EXISTS BECAUSE CRIMINALS SHOULD NOT BE PUNISHED!
IT IS NEVER A HUMAN BEINGS RESPONCIBILITY (OR RIGHT) TO PUNISH ANOTHER PERSON!
PRISON EXISTS BECAUSE CRIMINALS SHOULD NOT BE WANDERING FREE THEY WILL DO MORE BAD SHIT!
in the land of the blind there's a king with one eye you fucking facist cunts. the king with one eye never stabbed anyone he only got stabbed. take your stab like a man and keep moving.
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Re: Any thoughts? On a severly harsh punishing legl system? [Re: czech] 1
#23982882 - 01/05/17 12:10 AM (7 years, 25 days ago) |
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czech said:
PRISON EXISTS BECAUSE CRIMINALS SHOULD NOT BE PUNISHED!
PRISON EXISTS BECAUSE CRIMINALS SHOULD NOT BE WANDERING FREE THEY WILL DO MORE BAD SHIT!
The 2 statements kind of conflict. If prison was a place that has wood shop and free math classes and career training or you could sit in your cell all day. When you were ready, you could choose your vocation then learn it and once you passes the morality and good person classes they`d give another shot in society. That would be much better. I am starting to think more like the lives have more value than I am assigning to them.
Pretty sure theirs billions in money that could be used in this manner lining the pockets of the fat cat billionaire fucking jail investors
in the land of the blind there's a king with one eye you fucking facist cunts. the king with one eye never stabbed anyone he only got stabbed. take your stab like a man and keep moving.
I don't understand the last part. Like everyone gets screwed here and there like with legal trouble just learn from it move on or are you referring to something else. Again
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Re: Any thoughts? On a severly harsh punishing legl system? [Re: Groo]
#23982915 - 01/05/17 12:48 AM (7 years, 25 days ago) |
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Quote:
Groo said:
Quote:
czech said:
PRISON EXISTS BECAUSE CRIMINALS SHOULD NOT BE PUNISHED!
PRISON EXISTS BECAUSE CRIMINALS SHOULD NOT BE WANDERING FREE THEY WILL DO MORE BAD SHIT!
The 2 statements kind of conflict. If prison was a place that has wood shop and free math classes and career training or you could sit in your cell all day. When you were ready, you could choose your vocation then learn it and once you passes the morality and good person classes they`d give another shot in society. That would be much better. I am starting to think more like the lives have more value than I am assigning to them.
Pretty sure theirs billions in money that could be used in this manner lining the pockets of the fat cat billionaire fucking jail investors
in the land of the blind there's a king with one eye you fucking facist cunts. the king with one eye never stabbed anyone he only got stabbed. take your stab like a man and keep moving.
I don't understand the last part. Like everyone gets screwed here and there like with legal trouble just learn from it move on or are you referring to something else. Again
I'm guessing "czech" is a foreigner, as in, English is not his first language. Otherwise... WTF.
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Re: Any thoughts? On a severely harsh punishing legal system? [Re: Groo] 2
#23982943 - 01/05/17 01:20 AM (7 years, 25 days ago) |
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Groo said: I wish the legal system punished criminals by hanging them and cutting their heads with a guillotine but for severe crimes like rape, pedophilia ect. and 5th or 6th DUI or more than 3 felony's in 2 years or something or 3rd strike shoplifting and stealing. I also with they cut off hands of people who steal like Aladdin has made me believe the middle east is like. Public lashing would be nice too. A legal system that instead of sucking money from and creating criminals would cost very little money to enforce and make society better. But then try to take power and money away from the police That's why I mind my own business.
Extensive research has been done on this subject: harsher sentencing leads to more crime
Do we want vengeance or peace?
End prohibition and reform the (in)Justice system
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Re: Any thoughts? On a severly harsh punishing legl system? [Re: Groo] 1
#23982955 - 01/05/17 01:37 AM (7 years, 25 days ago) |
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Groo said:
If prison was a place that has wood shop and free math classes and career training or you could sit in your cell all day. When you were ready, you could choose your vocation then learn it and once you passes the morality and good person classes they`d give another shot in society. That would be much better.
Programs like these have been shown to reduce recidivism. The current modus operandi is to punish people into vengefulness, fine them into poverty and label them as felons to ostracize them socially (unable to attain work, housing, etc). Someone goes to prison for petty theft and comes out broke, spiteful and with even less opportunity to rise past the situation which drove them to theft in the first place. Our injustice system feeds crime with sterroids
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Re: Any thoughts? On a severly harsh punishing legl system? [Re: Repertoire89]
#23985051 - 01/05/17 08:13 PM (7 years, 25 days ago) |
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This is what makes most sense of all. I bet you have a good plan for it ti be better. Now, how to we go about actually implementing this sort of thing because someones gotta be brave and tough and this and that. Who is it?How do you do it. Is it possible how do we stop them?
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Re: Any thoughts? On a severly harsh punishing legl system? [Re: Groo]
#23985675 - 01/06/17 02:02 AM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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Well this isnt my field so I dont have a comprehensive plan, but none of my ideas here are my own.
Ending prohibition is the biggest thing which could be done for many reasons Ending mandatory minimums and capital punishment Lawyers and police need to be educated on the newest research in criminal justice, and taught what really works on a larger scale, as well as how they can do good and work with people rather than simply dishing out punishment (especially prosecutors) Generally speaking the gov should change the way it runs to work with the latest research, rather than pandering to ideologies and ignorant constituents
Police need to be held accountable for their actions on a federal level, I dont assume police are guilty for everything they are accused of, but corruption is still widespread, they should be wearing body cams and charged for tampering with or disabling them, they should also be judged by jury with more insulation between them and internal investigations.
There are many issues and the corrupt government is doing almost nothing to addrsss any of them, at this point I think discussing these things and building interest is about all anyone can do. My ideas arent infallible, but you asked, so those are my thoughts off the hip.
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