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Suicide Memes/Jokes
    #23982513 - 01/04/17 09:01 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

Has anyone noticed the recent uptick in suicide-related memes and jokes on facebook meme groups and imageboards> It worries me. I think suicide is becoming and will continue to be a bigger problem, especially among men who feel purposeless and nihilistic, but also among young women feel they don't meet society's absurd standards. I know multiple people personally and know of many people who have committed suicide and don't think it is something to joke around about. I want to know when to take people seriously when it comes to certain topics.


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Re: Suicide Memes/Jokes [Re: morrowasted] * 1
    #23982543 - 01/04/17 09:22 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

Well, these days males are practically neutered  when they reach puberty and begin to exhibit classic male traits, and the women are mostly out of shape overweight slobs. Its really no wonder that everyone wants to and should off themselves. Or, i could just be an asshole. It's whatever fits the popular narrative. Idc.


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Re: Suicide Memes/Jokes [Re: morrowasted]
    #23982547 - 01/04/17 09:23 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

people who kill themselves don't feel like it's rewarding enough to go on
:shrug:

assholes speak the loudest and spread the most dirt then wonder why people go psycho
assholes typically have the most kids too

when a girl post a pretty picture and you have like 10 random dudes saying how hot she is lol you know these people are full of shit it's just genetics


Edited by Konyap (01/04/17 09:27 PM)


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Re: Suicide Memes/Jokes [Re: Mushroomninja] * 1
    #23982550 - 01/04/17 09:25 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

Yea a lotta people these days I fear they might kill themselves, not because they show tendencies, but I can see their life is such shit that I'd probably kill myself if I was them.


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Re: Suicide Memes/Jokes [Re: morrowasted]
    #23982559 - 01/04/17 09:28 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

On a serious note...when i was in medic school i was shocked to find out how many people are out there killing themselves. Lots and lots and lots. If i remember correctly it was about as many as car crashes. I remember my first suicide call. It's so weird the first few times. You race down the road lights and sirens ready to save the day....and they didn't want to be saved. Very anti climatic.


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Re: Suicide Memes/Jokes [Re: Konyap]
    #23982574 - 01/04/17 09:34 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

Edited because i don't want to set a new record for being banned. I love to  lurk this site, but when i interact i realize what a bunch of liberal pussies everyone is.


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Edited by Mushroomninja (01/04/17 09:36 PM)


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Re: Suicide Memes/Jokes [Re: Mushroomninja]
    #23982579 - 01/04/17 09:36 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

Humor knows no boundaries
If it did Doug Stanhope would be out of work


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Re: Suicide Memes/Jokes [Re: Mushroomninja]
    #23982582 - 01/04/17 09:36 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

it's true dude these people are assholes but they go on facebook and all of a sudden they're muhadma ghandi ray of sunshine


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Re: Suicide Memes/Jokes [Re: Konyap]
    #23982599 - 01/04/17 09:46 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

Well, i believe in public humiliation just not at the hands of the state. But socially speaking...yes of course. Like it or not, there is a pecking order in life. I don't mean the top athlete picking on the local retarded (yes retarded) kid. But yeah.


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Re: Suicide Memes/Jokes [Re: Mushroomninja]
    #23982613 - 01/04/17 09:55 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

Yeah but you think you're arguing or being witty when in reality you're just treating the guy like a peice of shit everytime your eye meets up with him and then leaving him as someone else's responsibility, that to me is fake
which is why people blow up later on innocent people


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Re: Suicide Memes/Jokes [Re: Konyap]
    #23982634 - 01/04/17 10:07 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

I suppose i am missing something in the argument that you are tryimg to make.
Just to clarify...

What i am driving at as someone who is probably one of the older folks on this board who has lived a pretty rough life is that there has been a major shift in the personalities that populate this world. Not for the better either. The latest generation is a bunch of candy assed whiney pussies that don't know what real hard times are. That is why they are so wrapped up in their "feelings" and being "offended". Soft, weak, and bitch made. It's really no wonder to me if the suicide rate climbs.

Hard times make strong men. Good times make weak men.


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Re: Suicide Memes/Jokes [Re: Konyap] * 5
    #23982636 - 01/04/17 10:08 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

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Has anyone noticed the recent uptick in suicide-related memes and jokes on facebook meme groups and imageboards> It worries me. I think suicide is becoming and will continue to be a bigger problem, especially among men who feel purposeless and nihilistic, but also among young women feel they don't meet society's absurd standards. I know multiple people personally and know of many people who have committed suicide and don't think it is something to joke around about. I want to know when to take people seriously when it comes to certain topics.



Suicide is something to joke about, comedy is a way humans deal with sensitive issues. People aren't going to commit suicide because of a joke, unless they are making a joke of it.

There is the time for seriousness with any subject, and there is a time to make jokes of it as well. Also, if you're referring to harassment or bullying, I'm not really considering those as joking in this context even though they might be. But I don't think a stand-up comedian or a meme lord on facebook is going to tilt someone to do so. As I said, humor is a way for us to deal with sensitive issues, and joking about it when the time is right can enable us to be more perceptive when that time window closes and we need to take the issue seriously.

If you can't laugh about it, then the subject is too taboo and uncomfortable to speak about in general. If you don't joke about it from time to time, then people won't even have the opportunity to talk about it. You can joke about suicide - even morbidly - without it being in bad taste.

A few people I've known to commit suicide were the kinds of people who were socially aware, visibly happy and showed no signs of depression. This is not always the case, but it's not something you can always prevent. Some people are philosophically sold on the idea, and while depression and social isolation can be enormous factors statistically - it's not always the case.


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Re: Suicide Memes/Jokes [Re: Mushroomninja]
    #23982649 - 01/04/17 10:13 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

blame their parents
parents are fucking crazy and act like children, banging away or on drugs most of the time
shirking their responsibility to the outside world to manage their kids/adults
always using negative emotions to get what they want

you say these people are bitch made but maybe just maybe they don't have anything to lose by killing themselves that's what i think a lot harder to kill yourself when you have a wife and kids
i don't know why people kill themselves when they break up tho that shit is funny that isn't even your family lol


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Re: Suicide Memes/Jokes [Re: Mushroomninja] * 1
    #23982654 - 01/04/17 10:15 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

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Edited because i don't want to set a new record for being banned. I love to  lurk this site, but when i interact i realize what a bunch of liberal pussies everyone is.




wait, this is *after* your editz?

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Re: Suicide Memes/Jokes [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23982656 - 01/04/17 10:18 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

Yep


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Re: Suicide Memes/Jokes [Re: Mushroomninja]
    #23982657 - 01/04/17 10:18 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

i see.

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Re: Suicide Memes/Jokes [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23982672 - 01/04/17 10:24 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

Not surprising.  People are in a lot of trouble.


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Re: Suicide Memes/Jokes [Re: Konyap]
    #23982674 - 01/04/17 10:25 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

No, i don't "blame" anybody. If i were to blame  some one i would blame the individual. I have lived a rough ass life. I have been on the brink more than once. In my yonger days i have made considerations of my own. In the end, survival mechanisms kicked in i suppose.

I hear people refer to suicides as cowards... i think this is bullshit to a degree. Think about it. You have to overide every insitnct that you have to put a gun in you mouth and pull the trigger. That takes balls. And immeasurable pain to get there. But, at the same time pain is reletive. Hence my bitch made comment


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Re: Suicide Memes/Jokes [Re: Mushroomninja]
    #23982680 - 01/04/17 10:28 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

But suicide is the easy way out.

Living out a hard, sad or depressing life is the tough road.


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Re: Suicide Memes/Jokes [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23982687 - 01/04/17 10:31 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

Living to be old and fragile seems like. bleh.


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