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OfflinePatlal
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What horrible thing will 2017 be known for?
    #23982287 - 01/04/17 07:09 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

2014 was Russian taking over Crimea
2015 was terror attack year
2016 was everyone dying

What about 2017?

I say it's gonna be the year of Trump.
Or maybe the year of more terror attacks.

What do you think?


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: Patlal] * 12
    #23982292 - 01/04/17 07:11 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

Patals posts, it's a recuring theme


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: ReposadoXochipilli] * 1
    #23982297 - 01/04/17 07:13 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

The nukes will fly and civilization as we know it will be torn asunder

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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: OhMrJohnson] * 13
    #23982303 - 01/04/17 07:15 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

shut up, patlal.


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: sanchothestoner] * 5
    #23982345 - 01/04/17 07:31 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)



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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: Patlal]
    #23982470 - 01/04/17 08:35 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

It's the year of the Trump stick.  America shines forth again.


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #23982477 - 01/04/17 08:39 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

More of the same. But sensationalized.


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: pirate-blues] * 3
    #23982485 - 01/04/17 08:47 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

Is that XXX thing serious? Why does vin diesle look like a cheap bruce willis now? Why is is he dirt biking up a fucking wave? Who fronted the money for this shit? The whole goddamn worlds coming to an end i swear to fuck. I think if we all stand together in 2017 we can say no more of this horseshit stop giving these fucking people money ffs its encouraging them :facepalm:


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: pirate-blues] * 1
    #23982488 - 01/04/17 08:50 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

It's always sensationalized.  The stuff that passes for news reporting is complete garbage at every level.  The corruption exposed in the Podesta emails clearly shows collusion, and that's a sin in true journalism.  The news shouldn't be politicized, but it is.  Which might explain why we are so divided.  Facts are obscured in two different directions.  Echo chambers, blah blah blah.

But the left scares the shit out of me because, well frankly, because it is trying to normalize castration...this "transition" that ObamaCare requires doctors to ask children....about their sexuality, as children...designed toward hormone treatment and eventually, off with your genitals.

Scary.

Leftist values that say "your culture is evil" that is so blatantly dishonest.  We have the best culture in the world.  It isn't perfect, but it's damned good and should be handled with absolute care.  And freedom of speech is paramount to what we value.  And what we value is the sanctity of the individual.  This is why our cornerstone, the bill of rights, protects the individual from the state.  They recognized that people were not perfect and would make mistakes and should have leeway to do so.  So we have freedom of speech, so we can help each other determine our bad ideas and our good ideas.  And we have the right to rotect our soveriegnty with guns.  And the state has to adhere to strict guidelines if you are accused of a crime.

These are American values.  The left seems like they don't want to talk about them, or negotiate on them.  And that is scary too.

It got so bad that I feld a desire to hide my happiness that Trump won beccause I didn't want to be labeled a racist and dismissed by the idealogical binary being taught at colleges and is infesting media.

So Trump says "Speak your mind."  And it sounds so American we can't help but vote for him.


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: Patlal]
    #23982594 - 01/04/17 09:43 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

Well, the first horrible thing just happened.

California legalized child prostitution.  http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/4/california-law-decriminalizing-child-prostitution-/


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: Patlal]
    #23982612 - 01/04/17 09:54 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

I predict Trump is gunna nuke Mexico for not paying for the Mexio-US wall and we are going to team up with Russia to fight the Chinese in WWIII.

I dont want it to happen, but it could happen :shrug:


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23982639 - 01/04/17 10:09 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

More terror attacks and more war, I'd guess. Also more people dying. Also I bet the gridlock in Washington will get even worse. And race war. That's my forecast.


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
    #23982648 - 01/04/17 10:13 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

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More terror attacks and more war, I'd guess. Also more people dying. Also I bet the gridlock in Washington will get even worse. And race war. That's my forecast.




And now Cookies with the weather :lol:


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #23982650 - 01/04/17 10:13 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

I think ISIS made a point on NYE, it will be another one of them years. Stay put, don't go to large gatherings, stay vigilant. Idk? I been iffy on going to large gatherings the last couple years.


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: LSDollar]
    #23982660 - 01/04/17 10:19 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

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Stay put, don't go to large gatherings, stay vigilant. Idk? I been iffy on going to large gatherings the last couple years.



Screw that. Don't live your life in fear of getting off'd by the few nutcases.


I take it you drive to work, yes?


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23982663 - 01/04/17 10:22 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

Yeah, enough living in fear.


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: Senor_Doobie] * 1
    #23982804 - 01/04/17 11:20 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

Easy answer Trump


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #23982809 - 01/04/17 11:22 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

I would guess the new decriminlization of child prostitution in California was to allow the children to interact with police more easily now they removed the fear of being arrested. Thus, officers are now allowed to remove them for the intent of safety and not under prosecution.

Who knows it may work, but probably not. Should've done what those other states like Washington, New York and Mass have done.

As for 2017. More terror, US involvement in the Middle East and East Europe overtheoing governmemts, funneling weapons to terrorists. More countries protesting and revolting. More duress worldwide and one more step closer to WW3 and Martial Law


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: aZombie]
    #23982831 - 01/04/17 11:30 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

I'll probably catch crabs..:sad:


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: aZombie]
    #23982835 - 01/04/17 11:32 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

I thought the first horrible thing of 2017 was that 39 people were murdered in Istanbul. Literally, I read that a couple of hours after the ball went down.


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #23982861 - 01/04/17 11:55 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

Probably nothing as usual


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23983039 - 01/05/17 03:32 AM (7 years, 25 days ago)

1917's worst event was introduction of mustard gas in the Great War by the Germans in Ypres in July.

2017, Trump's Presidency?


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #23983046 - 01/05/17 03:41 AM (7 years, 25 days ago)

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Well, the first horrible thing just happened.

California legalized child prostitution.  http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/4/california-law-decriminalizing-child-prostitution-/





you sir, are an idiot. this law was made to protect the children from prosecution (because most of them aren't doing it by choice, it's slavery)....the perverts who choose to fuck them still are fair game in the eyes of the law.


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: Patlal]
    #23983129 - 01/05/17 05:14 AM (7 years, 25 days ago)

The first 20 days of January.


Edited by blackdragon999 (01/05/17 05:56 AM)


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: blackdragon999]
    #23983176 - 01/05/17 06:31 AM (7 years, 25 days ago)

North Korea will will shoot a nuclear  missile at the US but it will miss and hit Canada .


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: Asante]
    #23983180 - 01/05/17 06:36 AM (7 years, 25 days ago)

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1917's worst event was introduction of mustard gas in the Great War by the Germans in Ypres in July.

2017, Trump's Presidency?




What's with your incessant fear of trump?

What do you really think he is going to do that makes you so one track minded?

I understand you're not American and English isn't your first language so maybe that has something to do with your opinions, but is it that you saw a Hillary commercial on YouTube bashing trump and decided "YeA that's the bad guy"?

How informed is your opinion on the matter in the first place that you would think an American president is the most horrible possibility of the year?

Aren't the atrocities that occur worldwide outside of the US more concerning and alarming to you?


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: psilynut]
    #23983189 - 01/05/17 06:41 AM (7 years, 25 days ago)

theyre gunna pass out free joints at the inauguration I think I might just have to attend

also the washington times is fake

and a racewar seems more than unlikely if anything its just the kkk making noise


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: istandalone]
    #23983202 - 01/05/17 06:53 AM (7 years, 25 days ago)

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Quote:

Senor_Doobie said:
Well, the first horrible thing just happened.

California legalized child prostitution.  http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/4/california-law-decriminalizing-child-prostitution-/







you sir, are an idiot. this law was made to protect the children from prosecution (because most of them aren't doing it by choice, it's slavery)....the perverts who choose to fuck them still are fair game in the eyes of the law.




This is a stupid claim.  How does this law protect children?  By allowing them to prostitute themselves without interference?  Police are not allowed to remove children from a situation where they are being sexually exploited?  They just have to turn around and pretend it isn't happening?  and you actually see this as a good thing?


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #23983215 - 01/05/17 07:07 AM (7 years, 25 days ago)

The year the President, Vice President, and Speaker of the House all got clawed to death by hyper aware kittens who ate their eye balls.


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #23983231 - 01/05/17 07:27 AM (7 years, 25 days ago)

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Senor_Doobie said:
Quote:

istandalone said:
Quote:

Senor_Doobie said:
Well, the first horrible thing just happened.

California legalized child prostitution.  http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/4/california-law-decriminalizing-child-prostitution-/







you sir, are an idiot. this law was made to protect the children from prosecution (because most of them aren't doing it by choice, it's slavery)....the perverts who choose to fuck them still are fair game in the eyes of the law.




This is a stupid claim.  How does this law protect children?  By allowing them to prostitute themselves without interference?  Police are not allowed to remove children from a situation where they are being sexually exploited?  They just have to turn around and pretend it isn't happening?  and you actually see this as a good thing?




No they can still remove the children from the situation but the children cant be prosecuted for prostitution anymore. Whoever made them do it will still get in trouble

On topic :
- trump disolves the NATO
- russia invades europe
- nukes
- nuclear winter


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: howsyournaggerdoin]
    #23983235 - 01/05/17 07:34 AM (7 years, 25 days ago)

No, they can't.  Only in the case where the child is in immenent, physical danger, or is injured.


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: cannabinated]
    #23983245 - 01/05/17 07:46 AM (7 years, 25 days ago)

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theyre gunna pass out fake joints at the inauguration and I think I might just have to smoked one.





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    #23983256 - 01/05/17 07:51 AM (7 years, 25 days ago)

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stzacrack said:
Quote:

Asante said:
1917's worst event was introduction of mustard gas in the Great War by the Germans in Ypres in July.

2017, Trump's Presidency?




What's with your incessant fear of trump?

What do you really think he is going to do that makes you so one track minded?

I understand you're not American and English isn't your first language so maybe that has something to do with your opinions, but is it that you saw a Hillary commercial on YouTube bashing trump and decided "YeA that's the bad guy"?

How informed is your opinion on the matter in the first place that you would think an American president is the most horrible possibility of the year?

Aren't the atrocities that occur worldwide outside of the US more concerning and alarming to you?





Trump is going to be your worst president ever, he will drag America down and the world with him and he will do so appointing tons of unfit buddies of his into powerful positions which will remain there for long after he has either been removed or simply walked away from the helm.

Factions in the Republican party hate the Government so much that they will destroy it from the inside out. You might not even BE a United States anymore when he leaves office because states might secede or feel forced to secede from the Union because of failing federal policy.

This of course is an opinion.

He can't.
He can't be President.
And his failure to do so will be apparent soon in his presidency.
He just can't.

I'm not saying "no, it can't be true." I'm saying he is unfit for the job.

How can a man which climbed the ladder to the top by dividing people, unite the states again? Create a common enemy foreign or domestic? That's been done before.

You guys are dividing and dividing amongst yourselves until there is NOTHING LEFT that unites you anymore.

HE CAN'T.





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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: psilynut]
    #23983258 - 01/05/17 07:51 AM (7 years, 25 days ago)

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North Korea will will shoot a nuclear  missile at the US but it will miss and hit Canada .




That is unfortunate, I really wouldn't want anything bad to happen to America's hat.


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: Asante]
    #23983264 - 01/05/17 07:54 AM (7 years, 25 days ago)

After seeing all the top picks for Trumps cabinet, most being ultra rich friends of his with no political experience, Trumps presidency is going to be the biggest joke this year, and for 3 more years (maybe more) after this year.

Im waiting for Ashton Kutcher to come out and say "You just got PUNKED!"


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: Patlal] * 3
    #23983266 - 01/05/17 07:54 AM (7 years, 25 days ago)

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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: Niffla]
    #23983276 - 01/05/17 08:00 AM (7 years, 25 days ago)

So Trump seems to be the 2017 disaster waiting to happen.

Now let's talk 360 days from now.


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    #23983282 - 01/05/17 08:03 AM (7 years, 25 days ago)

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Trumps presidency is going to be the biggest joke this year





I hope it will be someting we can all laugh about during and after but I personally think it will be a catastropy to the united states and the world because the position of American president hasnt been called "the most powerful man in the world" for nothing.

And who is at the helm of the world economy and the largest standing army and nuclear force? Someone who flips his lid over trolling, who personally attacks veterans and minorities and posts racist white supremacist memes on the internet during his run for president without even fact checking them.

The guy appealed to white supremacists and is surrounded by bigots of all kinds. Racists, homophobes, transphobic people, you name it. He has aliented minorities of ALL sorts. One does not have to be a fortuneteller to consider that a bad omen.

The guy isnt anti-PC, he is anti-social. BIG difference.


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    #23983295 - 01/05/17 08:14 AM (7 years, 25 days ago)

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After seeing all the top picks for Trumps cabinet, most being ultra rich friends of his with no political experience, Trumps presidency is going to be the biggest joke this year, and for 3 more years (maybe more) after this year.

Im waiting for Ashton Kutcher to come out and say "You just got PUNKED!"





The biggest joke just brought $800,000,000 into Michigan from private industry to create jobs, and his policies haven't even been implemented yet. 

Remember Obama's stimulus package that he passed through brute force through Congress that left the American taxpayers the bill for a $21 billion dollar (if I remember right) package that went directly to the pockets of crooked politicians?

I think Trump's way is better.  Threatening tariffs.  It's time to end the globalist nightmare.  Let America's economy lead the world again.  We have the best culture so we deserve the best economy.

You know the Europeans have been watching this.  First Brexit, then Germany becomes more nationalistic, and France is sick of mopping their dead off the streets every holiday.  Soon, the EU will be gone, and the natural balance will be restored.


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: sanchothestoner]
    #23983324 - 01/05/17 08:31 AM (7 years, 25 days ago)

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Patals posts, it's a recuring theme



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shut up, patlal.




Without my posts the Pub would be a boring sad place and you would all miss me.

Don't even try to make me believe the I negatively contribute to this forum. If you think so, do the immature thing and ignore me. Go in your safe space.


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: Patlal]
    #23983342 - 01/05/17 08:38 AM (7 years, 25 days ago)

Safe spaces have play-dough.


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    #23983344 - 01/05/17 08:40 AM (7 years, 25 days ago)

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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: Patlal]
    #23983360 - 01/05/17 08:47 AM (7 years, 25 days ago)

I don't know why you guys are worried about ISIS, about 75% of ISIS fighters have been killed...

I really don't understand the point they were trying to make?
They only point they made was that they like to butt-fuck goats?

This may not be a perfect world, but the good side will always win.


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    #23983369 - 01/05/17 08:54 AM (7 years, 25 days ago)

The good side will win so long as individuals recognize the good side.  Which is becoming more and more rare.


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: LSDollar]
    #23984838 - 01/05/17 06:50 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

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I think ISIS made a point on NYE, it will be another one of them years. Stay put, don't go to large gatherings, stay vigilant. Idk? I been iffy on going to large gatherings the last couple years.




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    #23984891 - 01/05/17 07:10 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

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I think ISIS made a point on NYE, it will be another one of them years. Stay put, don't go to large gatherings, stay vigilant. Idk? I been iffy on going to large gatherings the last couple years.




That is exactly what they want to accomplish.




Hey if he lives in Germany or France, I don't blame him.


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I think ISIS made a point on NYE, it will be another one of them years. Stay put, don't go to large gatherings, stay vigilant. Idk? I been iffy on going to large gatherings the last couple years.




That is exactly what they want to accomplish.




Hey if he lives in Germany or France, I don't blame him.




I don't blame him either regardless, terror is terrifying and the act of being terrorized means in a way that terrorism wins. People shouldn't be afraid to go outside in Europe or anywhere else for that matter.


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: blackdragon999]
    #23985081 - 01/05/17 08:27 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

Especially in places like Germany and France, where it is way too common.

How's that ceasefire in Syria working out?  Can we send them home yet?


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    #23985202 - 01/05/17 09:14 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

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Well, the first horrible thing just happened.

California legalized child prostitution.  http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/4/california-law-decriminalizing-child-prostitution-/




That bill makes sure that kids who are underage are not put into the criminal justice system when they are the victims of the sex trade. it a good thing. Even the article explains that, despite the bullshit FAKE NEWS headline.

Pro tip: the Washington times isn't a real newspaper. They are owned by a cult.


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    #23985219 - 01/05/17 09:20 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

Squawk, parrot, squawk.


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    #23985228 - 01/05/17 09:23 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

I guess we know where you stand: Lock up the abused kids - they really flourish in juvie.


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: koods]
    #23985232 - 01/05/17 09:24 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

No, no.  They belong on the streets.  Pay no mind.  They're not behaving criminally.  They're just children.


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    #23985236 - 01/05/17 09:26 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

My vote for the worst thing that going to happen in 2017 is throwing kids in jail for being forced into sex work after right wing tools scuttle that bill.

And just for the record, doobie, you think a 15 year old who is part of a sex trafficking ring should be arrested and put into the criminal justice system? Because that is the law, and California is attempting to rectify that situation and you think it's terrible they are.


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    #23985270 - 01/05/17 09:39 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

Having to pay for a stupid wall because Trump isn't going to get Mexico to pay for it.


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #23985280 - 01/05/17 09:43 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

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Especially in places like Germany and France, where it is way too common.

How's that ceasefire in Syria working out?  Can we send them home yet?




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    #23985290 - 01/05/17 09:48 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

Damn blackdragon! 11 year comeback! well done :justastonishing:


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    #23985309 - 01/05/17 09:55 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

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Damn blackdragon! 11 year comeback! well done :justastonishing:




:grin: Yes, I realized that I needed to come back. The internet is slowly getting smaller and I like the conversation on these forums, it is good to see that many members are still here though, I remember many people from before.


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Especially in places like Germany and France, where it is way too common.

How's that ceasefire in Syria working out?  Can we send them home yet?




Hopefully they get sent home alive. Too much death already.




Amen to htat.


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    #23985316 - 01/05/17 09:57 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

right on :thumbup:

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right on :thumbup:

Its awesome to see old members return. warms me heart up :hug:




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    #23985344 - 01/05/17 10:11 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

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Well, the first horrible thing just happened.

California legalized child prostitution.  http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/4/california-law-decriminalizing-child-prostitution-/




That bill makes sure that kids who are underage are not put into the criminal justice system when they are the victims of the sex trade. it a good thing. Even the article explains that, despite the bullshit FAKE NEWS headline.

Pro tip: the Washington times isn't a real newspaper. They are owned by a cult.





Unfortunate that many of these children go on to be sexually abused in the group homes they are sent to by the state.:frown:


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    #23985350 - 01/05/17 10:13 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

And the solution to that is to make it legal.


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    #23985371 - 01/05/17 10:23 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

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And the solution to that is to make it legal.




Legal for the minor perhaps but the legal guardian would be held liable if the child is evolved in sex trafficking with their knowledge. If the court determines that the minor is unable to return to a suitable legal guardian (whether a crime is committed by the minor or not) that minor becomes a ward of the state.(In The United States)


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    #23985520 - 01/05/17 11:46 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

IDK exactly what it is, all i know is a psychic friend of mine saw it and wished he hadn't. He did say that all that matters at this point is to survive any way you can, if you can. All the old standbys like gold, cash, stored fuel, food, and other doomsday preps as well as social safety nets won't work once it starts. The event will not be believed initially. When it is known that it is for real, things will get so bad that many that do manage to somehow survive, will choose of their own free will to end it rather than continue to even TRY to fight to live.


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I just thought the countries should state the expiration dates of their nukes and promise not to manufacture new ones.


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: koods]
    #23985549 - 01/06/17 12:00 AM (7 years, 25 days ago)

Why the hell would the kids get arrested for being forced into sex slave shit?  That makes no sense..


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IDK exactly what it is, all i know is a psychic friend of mine saw it and wished he hadn't. He did say that all that matters at this point is to survive any way you can, if you can. All the old standbys like gold, cash, stored fuel, food, and other doomsday preps as well as social safety nets won't work once it starts. The event will not be believed initially. When it is known that it is for real, things will get so bad that many that do manage to somehow survive, will choose of their own free will to end it rather than continue to even TRY to fight to live.




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    #23985605 - 01/06/17 12:50 AM (7 years, 25 days ago)

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Why the hell would the kids get arrested for being forced into sex slave shit?  That makes no sense..



Because prostitution is illegal. Yes it's crazy, that's why California is reforming the laws so that underage prostitutes don't get put into the justice system. Señor doobie thinks they are criminals and should go to jail.


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Why the hell would the kids get arrested for being forced into sex slave shit?  That makes no sense..



Because prostitution is illegal. Yes it's crazy, that's why California is reforming the laws so that underage prostitutes don't get put into the justice system. Señor doobie thinks they are criminals and should go to jail.




Mindblowing, there are critics for everything

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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: koods]
    #23985699 - 01/06/17 02:23 AM (7 years, 24 days ago)

That's a batshit law. Obviously kids forced into prostitution shouldn't go to jail. What the fuck is wrong with California? How long has that being going on for?


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: John Nada]
    #23985739 - 01/06/17 03:06 AM (7 years, 24 days ago)

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That's a batshit law. Obviously kids forced into prostitution shouldn't go to jail. What the fuck is wrong with California? How long has that being going on for?




I highly doubt that law was ever enforced


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: John Nada]
    #23985762 - 01/06/17 03:57 AM (7 years, 24 days ago)

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That's a batshit law. Obviously kids forced into prostitution shouldn't go to jail. What the fuck is wrong with California? How long has that being going on for?




Ever watch the show Maury? Theres some bad kids out there from good parents. Some kids are just bad to the bone.

But most that are put into sex trade are not bad, but i bet u, some are bad children.


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23985785 - 01/06/17 04:22 AM (7 years, 24 days ago)

this thread :prettyflyforawhiteguy:


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: Shroomopotamus]
    #23985800 - 01/06/17 04:36 AM (7 years, 24 days ago)

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this thread :prettyflyforawhiteguy:




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    #23985805 - 01/06/17 04:42 AM (7 years, 24 days ago)

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You just got off a ban or something?
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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: Shroomopotamus]
    #23985808 - 01/06/17 04:49 AM (7 years, 24 days ago)

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this thread :prettyflyforawhiteguy:




You just got off a ban or something?
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:underage:




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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23985843 - 01/06/17 05:55 AM (7 years, 24 days ago)

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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: blackdragon999]
    #23985855 - 01/06/17 06:19 AM (7 years, 24 days ago)

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And the solution to that is to make it legal.




Legal for the minor perhaps but the legal guardian would be held liable if the child is evolved in sex trafficking with their knowledge. If the court determines that the minor is unable to return to a suitable legal guardian (whether a crime is committed by the minor or not) that minor becomes a ward of the state.(In The United States)




Remember all the progressive crybabies were asking "What do I tell my children?" when Trump got elected?

What do you tell them the day after they can legally prostitute themselves?


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #23985887 - 01/06/17 07:18 AM (7 years, 24 days ago)

Well, child prostitution is obviously a terrible thing which in no way could be a positive thing in a child's life. However, when it is illegal, the children become liable for breaking the law. I believe that any child who is suspected of being out on the streets for prostitution should be able to be detained, but putting that on a criminal record doesn't help anything.

It sounds awful to say that child prostitution is 'legal', but it actually seems like a way to attempt to protect the children involved, seeing as 95% of them are probably out there because an adult is forcing them to, and all of them are in dire life situations. The real police work is not in arresting the children, but in going after the adults who are putting them out on the streets and gradually structuring society in such a way as to prevent these scenarios from occurring in the first place.

So, by decriminalizing it, the children don't get a legal record with prostitution on it for the next 25 years of their lives.

Really, though, it should still be 'illegal' because there needs to be a strong deterrent factor here. Ideally, there needs to be a sub category of legality between decriminalized and illegal, something which specifically states that they will be arrested, it is against the law, but that the sentencing will be entirely based on helping them instead of punishing them.


Anyways, you could choose any year in history and say it was awful because of such and such. Humans are fascinated by disaster. But if you look on the bright side, you can also find reasons why each year has been a reason to celebrate. I think 2017 is going to be a fantastic year.


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: Chakra Shock]
    #23985904 - 01/06/17 07:39 AM (7 years, 24 days ago)

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Well, child prostitution is obviously a terrible thing which in no way could be a positive thing in a child's life. However, when it is illegal, the children become liable for breaking the law. I believe that any child who is suspected of being out on the streets for prostitution should be able to be detained, but putting that on a criminal record doesn't help anything.





Criminal records are expunged when you turn 18.  You guys really think that the way things go now, kids are kidnapped and pimped, arrested, and then thrown in juvie for being kidnapped and raped?

That's what you think the status quo is?


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #23985928 - 01/06/17 07:57 AM (7 years, 24 days ago)

That might not be the only scenario, but I bet it happens about as frequently as a kid deciding to try and make some money through prostitution for god knows what reason. Those kids should not have to suffer through criminal charges whatsoever.

Making child prostitution illegal is pretty obvious if the law was the only deciding factor in how people lived their lives, but honestly laws are just guidelines and people break them anyways. Due to that fact, you have to approach legislation with subtlety and nuance as opposed to the black and white of 'legal/illegal'. I'm not entirely convinced that decriminalizing child prostitution could help in any way whatsoever, but there are some interesting concepts behind it. What is your stance on the idea?


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: Chakra Shock] * 1
    #23985953 - 01/06/17 08:16 AM (7 years, 24 days ago)

I wonder what the lunchroom conversations will be like in California High schools today.


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #23985954 - 01/06/17 08:18 AM (7 years, 24 days ago)

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blackdragon999 said:
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And the solution to that is to make it legal.




Legal for the minor perhaps but the legal guardian would be held liable if the child is evolved in sex trafficking with their knowledge. If the court determines that the minor is unable to return to a suitable legal guardian (whether a crime is committed by the minor or not) that minor becomes a ward of the state.(In The United States)




Remember all the progressive crybabies were asking "What do I tell my children?" when Trump got elected?

What do you tell them the day after they can legally prostitute themselves?




The parents should be apologizing for having children(to their children) that they were unable to protect.


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: blackdragon999]
    #23985959 - 01/06/17 08:19 AM (7 years, 24 days ago)

And now the cops are unable to protect them too.


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #23985980 - 01/06/17 08:29 AM (7 years, 24 days ago)

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And now the cops are unable to protect them too.




My heart goes out to all those children being shamelessly sacrificed on the alter of political correctness and progressivism.:frown:


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: blackdragon999]
    #23986004 - 01/06/17 08:37 AM (7 years, 24 days ago)

It's disgusting.


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #23986009 - 01/06/17 08:40 AM (7 years, 24 days ago)

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It's disgusting.




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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: blackdragon999]
    #23986024 - 01/06/17 08:50 AM (7 years, 24 days ago)

Keeping it criminalized is a good start.


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #23986026 - 01/06/17 08:51 AM (7 years, 24 days ago)

And frankly, I can't believe I have to say that.


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #23986047 - 01/06/17 09:03 AM (7 years, 24 days ago)

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Keeping it criminalized is a good start.




It is illegal for adults almost everywhere in the US...which doesn't make sense because if the individual is an actor/actress in an adult film it is basically legal prostitution.


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: blackdragon999]
    #23986071 - 01/06/17 09:16 AM (7 years, 24 days ago)

Uh-huh.


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    #23986176 - 01/06/17 10:14 AM (7 years, 24 days ago)

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It's disgusting.




What is a suitable solution?




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    #23986288 - 01/06/17 11:05 AM (7 years, 24 days ago)

Just to illustrate the obvious further, decriminalizing prostitution for the prostitutes (not pimps or johns) makes it much easier for sex slaves to seek help, when they are facing jail time theyre less inclined to seek help. Its just like junkies and prohibition.

I think it was Spain where they successfully put this into practice, dramatically reducing prostitution rates, and giving sex slaves a safe out.
Children should not be in jail, prosecuting victims of violence is shameful to say the least.

Also, prostitution is decriminalized, not legalized, so the parents would be notified if a child is caught prostituting her/himself. And California is not unique in having prosecuted child sex slaves, theyre unique in stopping.


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23986292 - 01/06/17 11:07 AM (7 years, 24 days ago)

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And the solution to that is to make it legal.




Legal for the minor perhaps but the legal guardian would be held liable if the child is evolved in sex trafficking with their knowledge. If the court determines that the minor is unable to return to a suitable legal guardian (whether a crime is committed by the minor or not) that minor becomes a ward of the state.(In The United States)



And presumably the client would still be committing multiple crimes.


Obviously the police do need to have sufficient powers to intervene. I don't think that giving them the power to lay criminal charges against the victim is a necessary requirement to achieve that.


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: psi]
    #23986420 - 01/06/17 12:18 PM (7 years, 24 days ago)

Uh - huh.  Round and round we go.  Squawk little birdies.


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    #23986431 - 01/06/17 12:24 PM (7 years, 24 days ago)

What a substantial response.


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: psi]
    #23986440 - 01/06/17 12:34 PM (7 years, 24 days ago)

I've already made my argument.


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #23986451 - 01/06/17 12:42 PM (7 years, 24 days ago)

You argued that police need sufficient powers to intervene, which I agree with. I don't have an opinion one way or the other on whether this new law achieves this, as I haven't read it.

If you provided an argument as to why this is not possible without the ability to criminally charge underage prostitutes, I may have missed it. Otherwise, I'm not sure exactly what it is in my post that you might disagree with.


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: psi]
    #23986644 - 01/06/17 02:16 PM (7 years, 24 days ago)

From the Washington Times article.

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A revelatory op-ed in the Washington Examiner by Travis Allen, one of the few Republicans in the California legislature, declaring the state had “legalized” child prostitution, made waves and garnered much-needed attention to the issue.
Mr. Travis wrote, “Beginning on Jan. 1, prostitution by minors will be legal in California. Yes, you read that right. SB 1322 bars law enforcement from arresting sex workers who are under the age of 18 for soliciting or engaging in prostitution, or loitering with the intent to do so. So teenage girls (and boys) in California will soon be free to have sex in exchange for money without fear of arrest or prosecution.”
So what can law enforcement in California do when they encounter a child selling themselves on the street for sex? The Sacramento Bee explains, “Commercially sexually exploited children, based on the bill’s analysis, may be taken into temporary custody ‘if the minor has an immediate need for medical care, or … is in immediate danger of physical or sexual abuse, or the physical environment’ or the child’s unattended status ‘poses an immediate threat to the child’s health or safety.’ “




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    #23986649 - 01/06/17 02:17 PM (7 years, 24 days ago)

Travis Allen, member of the legislature used the word "arrest".

Not charge.


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    #23986714 - 01/06/17 02:42 PM (7 years, 24 days ago)

I don't know know how "immediate danger of sexual abuse" would be interpreted. Presumably this condition would be satisfied if they were about to have sex with a client. If it's a cop posing as a client, I'm not sure whether or not that would qualify (since the "danger" in the immediate situation isn't real).


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: psi]
    #23986733 - 01/06/17 02:49 PM (7 years, 24 days ago)

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I don't know know how "immediate danger of sexual abuse" would be interpreted. Presumably this condition would be satisfied if they were about to have sex with a client. If it's a cop posing as a client, I'm not sure whether or not that would qualify (since the "danger" in the immediate situation isn't real).



The law leaves room so that kids can be taken into custody more easily from what I can tell. This seems to be how other people have cleared up it's meaning as well over the past three days since the original article Senor Doobie was released (the same article that sparked the controversy from what I could tell looking it up). Immediate danger of sexual abuse is exactly what's going on if you're are being trafficked, and you are at risk of sexual (and physical) abuse at all times of the day until you are removed from that relationship with pimps, traffickers or unfit guardians.

The law takes away the police authority to arrest the juvenile as a criminal, and grants the authority to take them into custody to get them away from whoever is sexualizing them. It does not make pimping legal, and does not make sex with a minor legal. It makes the minor who is prostituting a victim rather than a criminal.


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23986743 - 01/06/17 02:52 PM (7 years, 24 days ago)

You can more easily remove a child from the situation by adding restrictions to their ability to do so.


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #23986764 - 01/06/17 03:00 PM (7 years, 24 days ago)

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You can more easily remove a child from the situation by adding restrictions to their ability to do so.



I can't tell if you're sarcastically equating that to what I just said, or if you are stating it as a fact. Either way, I disagree with the assertion that this adds restrictions in the first place. The only restriction it adds is the part where they charge the young person with a crime and put them through a judicial system charged with prostitution as a juvenile despite being victims of criminal organization a lot of the time.

This is from the author of the bill:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C09zHS8VIAEAvEO.jpg

So while it does restrict the ability to arrest criminally, it opens up the ability to take the juvenile in and put them in the right hands. Police no longer need to arrest the person to separate them. It removes restrictions in that sense.


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23986874 - 01/06/17 03:36 PM (7 years, 24 days ago)

So you say that you don't think it adds more restrictions and then tell me about the restrictions it adds, which are specifically related to arrest, not charge.


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #23986880 - 01/06/17 03:37 PM (7 years, 24 days ago)

The police are able to do more to help the person in question is what I'm saying. I suppose I might have worded that in an odd way as I meant to say there would be fewer restrictions overall.

You did deflect on the main point though.


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23986979 - 01/06/17 04:17 PM (7 years, 24 days ago)

2017
The seven angels with seven trumpets, and the angel with a censer, from the Bamberg Apocalypse. Seven trumpets are sounded, one at a time, to cue apocalyptic events that were seen in the vision of the Revelation of Christ Jesus, by John of Patmos, as written in the Book of Revelation of the New Testament.


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: wolfiewolfie]
    #23987365 - 01/06/17 06:22 PM (7 years, 24 days ago)

:incredible:

My God.

It was written.


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23987587 - 01/06/17 07:46 PM (7 years, 24 days ago)

It's hard to say without actually reading the law.  She says "no".  He says "yes".


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23987936 - 01/06/17 10:08 PM (7 years, 24 days ago)

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It's disgusting.




What is a suitable solution?




You two could try going back to college and taking reading comprehension courses, I hear that helps.



Thank you for the offer, I appreciate that. I am not sure that reading comprehension is an actual college course(not that I have knowledge of anyway). The most common course I know of in English Speaking cultures is "English Composition", which is usually the basic course.

It has been many years since I have attended college but if you are willing to pay for the courses I am very much obliged to retake those courses. The last time I took them was quite possibly before you were born so I would appreciate the opportunity to refresh my education.

Paypal works good, I don't accept check because I am a bit weary of giving out my mail address on here, I'm sure you understand. I will have to check but I think the courses are upwards of about $3000 each. I will contact you again with details. Thank you, and have a nice day!

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You two could try going back to college and taking take reading comprehension courses, I hear that helps.




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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: psi]
    #23987993 - 01/06/17 10:28 PM (7 years, 24 days ago)

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blackdragon999 said:
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And the solution to that is to make it legal.




Legal for the minor perhaps but the legal guardian would be held liable if the child is evolved in sex trafficking with their knowledge. If the court determines that the minor is unable to return to a suitable legal guardian (whether a crime is committed by the minor or not) that minor becomes a ward of the state.(In The United States)



And presumably the client would still be committing multiple crimes.


Obviously the police do need to have sufficient powers to intervene. I don't think that giving them the power to lay criminal charges against the victim is a necessary requirement to achieve that.




That of course depends on the situation...child trafficking is in a league all to its own when it comes to prostitution. Charged for being a sex slave is not right...arrested for being a 15 year old working the street on her own free will...yes, charge her for prostitution.


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: blackdragon999]
    #23988119 - 01/06/17 11:14 PM (7 years, 24 days ago)

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arrested for being a 15 year old working the street on her own free will...yes, charge her for prostitution.



Why though? IMO the real criminal there is the adult client taking advantage of a child's poor decision making skills, probably with desperation for money on top of that. This is also why age of consent laws are in place. The discrepancy in mental capacity is so great that it's inherently exploitative on the adult's part.

The victim of the client's crime is the child. The victim of the child's "crime" is... the child.

Compare also to regular prostitution, where everyone's an adult and potentially there is no victim at all. If there is, it's probably the prostitute being abused by a pimp or a client (and having no legal recourse because their own activities are considered criminal.)


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: stzacrack]
    #23988137 - 01/06/17 11:19 PM (7 years, 24 days ago)

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1917's worst event was introduction of mustard gas in the Great War by the Germans in Ypres in July.

2017, Trump's Presidency?




What's with your incessant fear of trump?





he's the liberal hate machine


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: psi]
    #23988186 - 01/06/17 11:34 PM (7 years, 24 days ago)

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arrested for being a 15 year old working the street on her own free will...yes, charge her for prostitution.



Why though? IMO the real criminal there is the adult client taking advantage of a child's poor decision making skills, probably with desperation for money on top of that. This is also why age of consent laws are in place. The discrepancy in mental capacity is so great that it's inherently exploitative on the adult's part.

The victim of the client's crime is the child. The victim of the child's "crime" is... the child.

Compare also to regular prostitution, where everyone's an adult and potentially there is no victim at all. If there is, it's probably the prostitute being abused by a pimp or a client (and having no legal recourse because their own activities are considered criminal.)




To be fair, the client and the prostitute should both be charged. When you commit a crime (even if you are 15 years old) it is still a crime. Compared with regular prostitution BOTH the client and prostitute would be charged as well.

If it makes you feel any better, you could charge the parents for child abuse too for allowing their 15 year old child to wander the streets at night. Making it legal for children to sell their bodies to strangers knowing there are no repercussions for them is completely inexcusable. 

That way when they have an adult buy them alcohol so they can get drunk and drive their car over a bunch of 3rd graders...but when they are sitting in front of the judge all they have to say is:
"buuht ittzz muh poor decision making skills"
it was that evil adult buying me alcohol...

Consensual Prostitution is a crime in most western countries, it should apply to everyone involved. Like I said before...the exception is sex trafficking and it is different and there should be special laws protecting people that a subject to that type of abuse. Being forced to commit a crime against your will is a different issue than prostitution itself. But if you are the one making the choice to commit a crime...it is to late to pull the victim card at that point.


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    #23988202 - 01/06/17 11:43 PM (7 years, 24 days ago)

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Consensual Prostitution is a crime in most western countries, it should apply to everyone involved.





do you believe it should be a crime?


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    #23988223 - 01/06/17 11:55 PM (7 years, 24 days ago)

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Consensual Prostitution is a crime in most western countries, it should apply to everyone involved.





do you believe it should be a crime?




For consenting adults, no. Being hired as an adult actor/actress in adult movies is almost the same situation...and that is legal. But I believe that there should be certain protections in any line of work.


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Re: What horrible thing will 2017 be known for? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23994296 - 01/09/17 02:13 AM (7 years, 21 days ago)

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Consensual Prostitution is a crime in most western countries




Not true

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_by_country


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