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MycoFlora
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Re: Fungus gnats [Re: vatman]
#23981363 - 01/04/17 12:49 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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yes, those are bti. Read the description.
Solid advice from drake, as usual.
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vatman
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Registered: 04/17/14
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Yeah my house temp is 59-67. Only have the heat kick on at 55. Still having gnats. Not a massive infection but I want to kick it in the balls before it gets to that point
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RolledUhhp
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Re: Fungus gnats [Re: vatman]
#23981769 - 01/04/17 03:49 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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The gnats will win that game, my friend.
From the wiki:
"Some fungus gnats are exceptionally hardy, being able to tolerate cold conditions through their possession of antifreeze proteins. Typically, overwintering organisms can either avoid freezing or tolerate freezing, but Excechia nugatoria can do both. For E. nugatoria, the production of noncolligative antifreeze proteins (NAPs) protect the head and thorax from freezing, but they do not protect the abdomen. Freezing of the head and thorax in other insects tends to have adverse effects on neural tissue, so it is not surprising that these protective mechanisms have been observed in certain species, but E. nugatoria is the only insect known to semi-freeze through the winter, which may be an evolutionary advantage. According to Sformo, by allowing the abdomen to freeze, evaporative water loss is reduced over the course of the winter."
I'll see if I can look into these a bit more tonight, but I'm sure they've been tried - Anyone have any experience with Hypoaspis miles mites?
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pblcenmy1
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The mites lay a ton of eggs and its debated if they become cannibalistic after other food sources depleat. I dont beleive they just die off either. Just try to control moisture content better. Anything that contains vermiculite coco or clay should never remain moist
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vatman
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I like the nematodes as they can be applied with water. The mites don't want you to water before applying.
Gr0wer has had success with nematodes himself. They are also rather easy to keep the population going.
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pblcenmy1
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Re: Fungus gnats [Re: vatman]
#23981840 - 01/04/17 04:18 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Theres that water word again. Fungus gnats are a product of excess moisture. Bacteria love that shit too. Dry things out once in a while. Quit adding more water
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vatman
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Lol I don't mist my stuff and they still go after my substrate. The substrate has enough water content for them to breed.
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pblcenmy1
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Re: Fungus gnats [Re: vatman]
#23981956 - 01/04/17 04:58 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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We will never avoid this problem... Only remedy their numbers. Good Luck getting those high fivin' shits!
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vatman
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They will even go after monotubs that are not misted. Mushroom myc is the perfect env for them.
Nematodes are nice as they can be added to a water supply for a misting system if you have one. They can withstand high PSI
Edited by vatman (01/04/17 05:01 PM)
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RolledUhhp
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Re: Fungus gnats [Re: vatman]
#23982264 - 01/04/17 06:58 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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vatman
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shiitz how did you find a picture of me?
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poponon
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Re: Fungus gnats [Re: vatman]
#23985898 - 01/06/17 07:35 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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noticed that biological controls have not been mentioned in this thread. I've heard that it may be worth trying out both frogs and carnivorous plants in the fruiting room to fight off bugs. The plants will benefit from the high CO2 environment as well. not sure about the moisture though. I'd like to try this after i get my production rolled out
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