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OfflineBikerfool
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Life Decision Advice
    #23981633 - 01/04/17 02:41 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

Hi Shroomery Folks,

I'm at a crossroads and am thinking about making a big life change. In times like this I've found it useful to consult oracles of the Shroomery, plus it's helpful to write things down.

Here's the predicament: I have some debt which is burdensome. Most of it originated from two bachelor's degrees, there's also credit card debt, and some owed to a friend.

While working on my second degree, I was promised a golden parachute. There were plenty of jobs, if I finished the program I would be set. After I graduated, the bottom fell out of the industry and I was laid off.

I wasn't very excited about the profession, but it suited the lifestyle I wanted to live. Frustration from not being able to have a job and not being too psyched about the career I had chosen has led me a bit astray. My living conditions aren't the best and job prospects aren't great in the place I'm living.

However, I'm new to this area and I like it here. This is where I would like to be. I'd like to build a life here, working, farming, and scheming. 

Working for a large corporation in a job I'm not passionate about doesn't settle well for me. If I'm not excited about the work I'm doing or where I'm living it's hard for me to be happy with life.

In the last couple days a job opportunity has come up.. It's union, the pay will be great, with benefits, room to advance and lots of potential skills to gain: welding, electrical, etc. The work will be interesting and keep me engaged but it's dedicated to an industry I don't believe in. Also, I would have to move to a place I don't want to be. It wouldn't have to be permanent, maybe a few years until I get my finances in better shape.

My 20's were great, I've accomplished things I could only dream of at one time. I've traveled, partied, and spent a lot of time in school. I'm tired of being in debt and having nothing though. 

So do I keep suffering and try to make things work where I want to be?
Or do I move on to greener pastures and sell out my ideals?

Thanks guys, most input is helpful. I won't make up my mind about anything for a few days since Mercury is in retrograde :wink:


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Re: Life Decision Advice [Re: Bikerfool]
    #23981640 - 01/04/17 02:44 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

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Don't flame, and be nice. :heart:


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Re: Life Decision Advice [Re: Bikerfool] * 4
    #23981653 - 01/04/17 02:50 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

start packing...

take the union job. and run with it.  you can always move back to once you are financially stable. no reason to even think of it.

so what the town you will have to move to sucks, but the experience alone will help cross out your schooling.  while you are working the union job you can always look for things your degree/current career translates to in other fields.

dont struggle just because you have a piece of paper with your name on it that says you accomplished something.. that aint worth it.


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Re: Life Decision Advice [Re: rackem]
    #23981722 - 01/04/17 03:27 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

I agree.  Don't let ideology get in the way of fulfilling your needs.  The odds that you will look at the world the same ten years from now as you do now are very unlikely.  Go with the current.  Get bonafide.


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Re: Life Decision Advice [Re: Shiithead] * 1
    #23982040 - 01/04/17 05:25 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

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:rofl2::freewilly:

Thanks Rackem and Doobie, that's helpful!


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Re: Life Decision Advice [Re: Bikerfool]
    #23982076 - 01/04/17 05:39 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

I was in the same boat, got a degree in the field I loved then the NCAA passed a rule severely limiting my career options.  Tried to still force my way into the field only to be offered "A full time position where the budget can only afford to pay part time..."

That was the nail in the coffin and now I am working toward my RN which is a much more stable field.  I've done a bunch of garbage jobs over the last year but I made more money working outside my field than in and at the end of the day, money pays the bills.



Go for the union job.


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Re: Life Decision Advice [Re: PreparationH]
    #23982121 - 01/04/17 05:57 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

My advice is not to take advice from people on a drug forum.


Do you have people who depend on you(i.e. kids)?


If no, then do what it takes to make yourself happy. I think the answer becomes pretty clear.


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Re: Life Decision Advice [Re: Bikerfool] * 2
    #23982122 - 01/04/17 05:59 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

Basically, it's your ideology vs. financial comfort.

Most of us have had to suck it up at one point or another; it sounds like now may be the time.


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Re: Life Decision Advice [Re: pirate-blues] * 2
    #23982162 - 01/04/17 06:21 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

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pirate-blues said:
My advice is not to take advice from people on a drug forum.




Why not? There's lots of intelligent people here with plenty of life experience.


Quote:

pirate-blues said:

Do you have people who depend on you(i.e. kids)?


If no, then do what it takes to make yourself happy. I think the answer becomes pretty clear.





I don't have any kids. "Sucking it up" seems like the best plan, at least I'll be setting up for success.


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Re: Life Decision Advice [Re: badchad] * 1
    #23982169 - 01/04/17 06:25 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

I've found that when presented with a decision I go based on the vibe I get from the people involved. If the environment is good the location and the nature of the job are less important. Work is work. The last job I had was supposedly in a great field that went with my ideals and education but the reality was I could have taught a high schooler to do it. But the people were good so I rode that horse for all the cash I could squeeze out of it. It's run its course and the next opportunity is not in my dream field and not in an area where I wanted to live, but again the people involved are good so I'm taking it and will make the best of it. In my experience a "special" boss, and the world is full of them, can make your life a living hell. Good luck in your next step.


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Re: Life Decision Advice [Re: TGS]
    #23982383 - 01/04/17 07:49 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

You make a good point - I just found it ironic because you titled your thread 'life decision advice' and thought it was funny.

Anyways,

Suck it up? At what cost?


Your happiness?


You may not get another chance to pursue an opportunity like this later on in life, it seems like you could set yourself up for success and happiness by disrupting your life and following this opportunity - change can certainly be scary, and it's a risk, but if you don't change now then when and why not?


Because if and when you do have kids, a spouse or long term partner of some kind...it's gonna be a lot fucking harder to pursue a change, even if you're totally burnt out.

I'm speaking as someone who has very recently made a complete career switch - granted I was lucky enough that I was able to do it in the same area(geographically) that I was already in,


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Re: Life Decision Advice [Re: pirate-blues]
    #23982388 - 01/04/17 07:53 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

Go with the option you have not tried yet :shrug:


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Re: Life Decision Advice [Re: Bikerfool]
    #23982815 - 01/04/17 11:23 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

What is it about the industry that you dont particularly agree with?..


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Re: Life Decision Advice [Re: Bikerfool] * 1
    #23982938 - 01/05/17 01:14 AM (7 years, 25 days ago)

It depends on how against your ideals it is, there is a line I wouldnt cross for anything, but I would compromise to a degree.

Like working in oil, I dislike the idea, but I drive anyways and theres good work in oil
On the other hand you couldnt pay me enough to work with the DEA

There's a balance, and any compromise would be temporary for me


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Re: Life Decision Advice [Re: pirate-blues]
    #23982995 - 01/05/17 02:40 AM (7 years, 25 days ago)

Seriously OP I think you are a tad foolish if the only reason you won't take a union job with great benefits, higher wages,sick days,vacation days, certain lunch breaks. Furthermore a guarantee. for as long as you work there is because you don't like the industry it must be a pretty bad industry. Medical insurance out of pocket is through the roof. Everything from ambulance rides,brief hospitalization, antibiotics, inhalers . All those are extremely expensive without money for health insurance is crazy expensive

The 2nd degree you aren't to stoked about getting sounds like a geat option and you already worked for one degree . If you don't like it all and it makes you miserable don't do it . However that would most likely have benefits.

The truth is not tons of jobs are fun. If it pays well though I feel like it's worth it. Also it's not like you're losing any individuality or you can't have happiness because of it. Thats with school and that union job. I'm just telling you what I'd do.


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Re: Life Decision Advice [Re: pirate-blues]
    #23983025 - 01/05/17 03:13 AM (7 years, 25 days ago)

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pirate-blues said:
My advice is not to take advice from people on a drug forum.


Do you have people who depend on you(i.e. kids)?


If no, then do what it takes to make yourself happy. I think the answer becomes pretty clear.




dont be so quick to judge your drugged-out allumni.

My advice is to take the job offer, sell out your ideals and pay back osme of your debt. After a year or two, u can always move back to your original happy city and try to find work there.

I know what its like to have debt, it sucks. Im working on paying my back this year.

Getting your debt lowered makes life feel easier IMO.


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Re: Life Decision Advice [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23983411 - 01/05/17 09:22 AM (7 years, 25 days ago)

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My advice is to take the job offer, sell out your ideals and pay back osme of your debt.




So if you were offered a sweet gig in the boncentration bamps, complete with benefits and free sex slave, you would take it on a temporary basis?

What about the children? What about Pearl Harbor and the Rape of Belgium?

I hear Daesh is hiring, their benefit package comes complete with 4 goats and 70 something virgins


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Re: Life Decision Advice [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23983427 - 01/05/17 09:27 AM (7 years, 25 days ago)

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Repertoire89 said:
Quote:


My advice is to take the job offer, sell out your ideals and pay back osme of your debt.




So if you were offered a sweet gig in the boncentration bamps, complete with benefits and free sex slave, you would take it on a temporary basis?

What about the children? What about Pearl Harbor and the Rape of Belgium?

I hear Daesh is hiring, their benefit package comes complete with 4 goats and 70 something virgins




Who is talking about boncentration bamps?


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Re: Life Decision Advice [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #23983433 - 01/05/17 09:29 AM (7 years, 25 days ago)

They have a pretty sweet benefits package


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Re: Life Decision Advice [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23983476 - 01/05/17 09:57 AM (7 years, 25 days ago)

Sorry Tim and op for being so rude. What I meant to say was you should take a trip down Lake Shore Drive to clear your mind.


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