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Testing cultures? Bacterial spawn? Limited Space? Dawgy Bag it! * 4
    #23981421 - 01/04/17 01:10 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)


Dawgy Bags:lol:

A simple, low waste approach to testing cultures and dealing
with less than optimal spawn

What's up every one!

So I altered this post a little bit to be more encompassing as I
realized these are also a great way to test out clone/isolate cultures!

Let's say you have 15 cultures to test out, do you really want to make
15 mini tubs? What a pain in the ass, right? Well these bags are great
for testing cultures as they are their own fruiting chambers and
require very little maintenance.

I also see a lot of bacterial spawn posts here on the boards. No one wants to expand it, some
people say to just throw it out even. Most will say it's ok to spawn it
but spawn it alone and separately from everything else.

Ok, so what are your options? Spawn it to a mini tub? That takes up a lot
of space for just 1 or 2 jars.

You can top fruit the jar; but now you can't use it for more spawn for
another couple weeks. I don't have a million jars so I like to flip mine
as fast as possible.

Another thing about me is I like to reuse and reduce when I can.

Enter Dawgy Bags.

Spawn bags can be used more than once. Cook some grain and then after
you spawn the grain, you can re-use the bag to spawn your bacterial grain jars for a super
simple colonization/fruiting chamber.

Or just dedicate a couple bags specifically for this purpose. They make
great fruiting chambers. After full colonization, just cut a couple
slits in the bag or even just open the bag and keep it open for a good
majority of the day, either way works. I've even left the bags closed
with no air exchange other than the filter patch till harvest.

Some pics: Bacterial spawn

Had a bacterial outbreak after a G2G or the master had some hidden
bacteria, either way I had 6 bacterial jars and didn't want to just
chuck em.

Here is the first jar spawned to 1qt of CVG. You can use excess cvg or
just make enough for a couple quarts, or however many you need. I just
measure out a quart give or take of sub for each bag. A little more
never hurt.


Plenty of pins in this bag. Colonized in 4 days and it's been in fruiting
since the 30th. Not too bad for a bacterial quart.

The other bags I just spawned the other night after some consolidation
as I've been pretty busy the past week :facepalm:



Old grow where I tried to make a bag/mono hybrid :lol:
It worked just not the best


Top fruiting vs. Bags/Cased vs. Uncased:
So I decided to do a comparison since these jars are all from the
same clone, and I decided to case and top fruit a jar along side the
dawgy bags.

Here is a pic of the jar along with a couple pics of dawgy bags, one
cased and one uncased, to test and see which way the culture prefers.

cased jar:


Cased bag:


Uncased bag:


As you can see, the jar, although cased a few days after the bags were
spawned, is far behind the bags. The cased bag has a much more uniform
pinset and much more knots than the uncased bag as well.

Only thing left is to see if the cased bag yields more than the 1st
bag I harvested which was uncased and put out 327 fresh grams 1st flush! Hard to beat but maybe!

Once you are ready to harvest just twist and pull them out or you can
remove the whole block from the bag. To dunk, just pour a little water
in the bag and twist it to keep the block from floating. You may not
wish to dunk and just pitch after the first flush depending on how
bad your jars were.

These bags take up very little space. You can just put them on a shelf,
on the table, hang them in the closet, or put them on the floor in the
corner.

So if you're like me and you have reservations about throwing out jars
that can still produce, or are low on space for clone testing, give this a try! It works with oven bags also
if you don't use spawn bags and don't feel like buying them anytime soon.

Grow Update

Bag 1



Bag 2 (cased comparison bag)



Bag 3

Forgot to get the canopy and final wet weight shot of this one but it was over 400g fresh

Bag 4



Bag 5



Bag 6



Results:

Bag 1 did the worst, which was surprising seeing as it got the most FAE since I cut slits
into that bag. I am kind of baffled by it to be honest, This culture must like less FAE:shrug:

The cased bag did the best at 435g, but it really wasn't that much better than the others.

I'll come back with total harvest dry weight later today when the last bag finishes drying!

The jar really shit the bed and has a crappy pinset, I'll post photos of that later as well
:cheers:


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Re: Bacterial spawn? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: natedawgnow]
    #23993443 - 01/08/17 07:14 PM (7 years, 22 days ago)

Bag 1: PE6



I'll probably harvest this flush tomorrow. The veils that have broken
already are sporeless so I don't think there will be a sporesplosion.

I'll update with total harvest weights to show that bacterial spawn
can still produce well enough if you don't want to throw it out :cheers:


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Re: Bacterial spawn? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: natedawgnow]
    #23994775 - 01/09/17 10:21 AM (7 years, 21 days ago)

Even though I'm the only one following this thread, I'm still gonna
update it for any one who is interested in a no waste approach to cult.

So here are some pre/post harvest and wet weight pics for you guys

canopy shot



And wet weight


So that's 327 wet grams for 1 bacterial qt of spawn, left over bucket
tek cvg, and a used spawn bag. That is over 100% BE with no other
fruiting chamber but the bag itself and some, what amounts to, leftover
garbage:rockon:

I still have 5 more bags to go. Those are actual spawn bags that I
dedicated to this purpose, but they will be reused over and over after
this grow. They can be washed out or you can even pc them to clean them.
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Re: Bacterial spawn? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: natedawgnow]
    #23994860 - 01/09/17 11:02 AM (7 years, 21 days ago)

I agree with your mindest, though I grow for bulk so it's worth it to weed out ANY contamination.  Anything with bacteria goes in the outdoor patch.
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Re: Bacterial spawn? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: natedawgnow]
    #23994861 - 01/09/17 11:03 AM (7 years, 21 days ago)

Could you just use ziplock bags as well if you have them laying around? I think I have a couple bacterial quart jars that I just dont want to throw out.


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Re: Bacterial spawn? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: Pezam]
    #23994869 - 01/09/17 11:05 AM (7 years, 21 days ago)

are those home made 'choke bags' i might be reading the OP wrong.
i used them before(14years ago) and had similar results.


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Re: Bacterial spawn? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: mushboy]
    #23994899 - 01/09/17 11:14 AM (7 years, 21 days ago)

No they are spawn bags. You can get them from any sponsor or ebay. I
am reusing them for the purpose of spawning bacterial spawn. I find I
get more out of the quart first flush if I spawn it this way vs. top
fruiting the jar and it frees up the jar for more projects.

I actually have a cased jar of the same clone going right now just to
compare first flush weights.

You can use any kind of bag for this, from big ziplocks to oven bags
and grocery bags. I use spawn bags for bulk and I see no reason to
throw them away if they can be repurposed. Our hobby has a lot of
waste as it is.

Pezam, I grow for bulk too, but not everyone has the ability to just put
their stuff outside. A lot of people live in rented homes/apartments and
do not feel comfortable with a contam pile, but also don't want to just
throw their spawn out if it can still produce, ya know?


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Re: Bacterial spawn? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: natedawgnow]
    #23995031 - 01/09/17 12:03 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)

:popcorn:

Will have more to say after work but hell yeah


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Re: Bacterial spawn? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: Kenetic]
    #23995033 - 01/09/17 12:04 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)

Quote:

natedawgnow said:
I find I get more out of the quart first flush if I spawn it this way vs. top
fruiting the jar and it frees up the jar for more projects.




cant argue with that:cheers:


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Re: Bacterial spawn? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: mushboy]
    #23995101 - 01/09/17 12:28 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)

Cool easy and low-effort tek :thumbup::thumbup:


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Re: Bacterial spawn? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: freespeech]
    #23995179 - 01/09/17 01:02 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)

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Re: Bacterial spawn? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: natedawgnow]
    #23995203 - 01/09/17 01:11 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)

how do you get the BE %%??:confused:


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Re: Bacterial spawn? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: mushboy]
    #23995210 - 01/09/17 01:15 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)

That's going by our definition of BE, which is one oz mush per quart of spawn.

327 grams going by the 10% dry weight rule should be around 32 grams,
which is over one oz. Plus the spawn was bacterial so it technically
should have produced less than optimal, but it produced better than
optimal in nothing but a spawn bag as a fruiting chamber.


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Re: Bacterial spawn? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: natedawgnow]
    #23995218 - 01/09/17 01:18 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)

Quote:

natedawgnow said:
That's going by our definition of BE, which is one oz mush per quart of spawn.





gotcha :takingnotes: thanks.


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Re: Bacterial spawn? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: mushboy]
    #23995229 - 01/09/17 01:21 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)

Ya sorry I guess I should have been more specific in that quote.

Our definition of 100% BE is one ounce per quart of spawn. anything over
1 ounce is over 100% BE.

To calculate actual biological efficiency, you divide the total yield
of fresh mushrooms by the dry weight of substrate used then multiply
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Re: Bacterial spawn? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: natedawgnow]
    #23995241 - 01/09/17 01:26 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)

Have you any pics of the bacterial jars before you spawned them? My understanding of the theory of casing jars/top fruiting jars is that you do not disturb the mycelium colony below as it is unlikely to recover if it was spawned or shaken -shaking jars being a common test to see if a jar is fucked.

I was expecting to see some technique for removing the grains with minimal breaking up, and just casing them, rather than mixing right up.

If its a very mild contamination you might get away with it of course, I just want others thinking of doing it to see how the jars looked.

One test I do rather than shaking the entire jar is to just tap it enough to disturb the top layer of grains, and see if it recovers. If there is no recovery I can scoop out those top grains and case

I like the idea of freeing up jars. I have many plastic containers which tend to be tapered, so I could "birth" them as a solid mass and put them into a similar size container, like a flower pot or some other plastic container which might not be heat resistant.


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Re: Bacterial spawn? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: blackout]
    #23995392 - 01/09/17 02:19 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)

They were pretty bad. Lots of liquid in the bottom and hard to break up.

I even used a spoon for 2 of them. I'll see if I can get a pic
of the liquid in the jar on the top fruited jar. The contamination is
definitely what most would consider past the point of mild.

I definitely should have included the pics of the jars originally but
I had the idea for the post after spawning them :lol:


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Re: Bacterial spawn? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: natedawgnow]
    #23995398 - 01/09/17 02:22 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)

that bacterial and it grew on the cvg? usually just with 'grains up on glass look' it goes green on me if i try to spawn. i top fruited a few and got something but nothing like your dawgy bag.


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Re: Bacterial spawn? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: natedawgnow]
    #23995409 - 01/09/17 02:29 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)

So this is the top fruited comparison jar from the same batch

You can see all the wet grains and the thick mycelium


In this pic you can clearly see the standing slimy water line in the
jar


I should mention that I did use a spoon to break up a couple of the
jars, thanks for the reminder blackout :cheers:

The rest though were shaken and they still recovered just fine :shrug:


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Re: Bacterial spawn? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: natedawgnow]
    #23995422 - 01/09/17 02:36 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)

i accidentally bought gigantic spawn bags and i have 3 quarts left of old bacterial leftovers
from the last MS grows..

i will be doing this in a few days with one of those jars. :thumbup:


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Re: Bacterial spawn? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: natedawgnow]
    #23995431 - 01/09/17 02:40 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)

Quote:

natedawgnow said:
They were pretty bad. Lots of liquid in the bottom and hard to break up.




were these jars old by any chance? I remember mycofile posting these pics of "overincubated grains" which he said lead to very potent shrooms

Quote:

mycofile said:
Quote:

Allowing your spawn to incubate for months after colonization is NOT a good thing, no matter who tells you different



Naw, you're right.  Incubating spawn for months is a bad thing.  It ends up pissing all over itself like this:



Yeah, Who would use such nasty looking spawn?  I mean, who cares if it can grow the most potent shrooms you've ever dreamed about?  The flushes are bound to be wimpy, right?  I mean, didn't stamets say that spawn MUST be refrigerated if it can't be used at peak vitality (within just a few days of colonization)?  And didn't he have some ominous warning for people who dared to do differently?  Well, I read his words too.  And I expected fruits from over-incubated spawn to be pidly, low yielding, mutated, and generally fucked up.  Well, then explain this, which came from that bag above:



Don't believe everything you read, try it for yourself.  Unless you still have some theoretical reason why over-incubation is bad?




EDIT: just see the previous posts now, they do not look particularly old.


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Re: Bacterial spawn? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: blackout]
    #23995446 - 01/09/17 02:48 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)

Yes and no. The first jar, which is responsible for the bag above, was
not consolidated at all. It was showing signs of bacteria before it
ever finished colonizing, I spawned it as soon as it finished.

The other 5 that I spawned were consolidated about a week because I was
busy and didn't get around to spawning. They were all part of the same
G2G and all showed signs of bacteria before 100% completion.

The comparison jar IS over consolidated, as I just cased it a few days
ago. But still, not that long. And it showed signs of bacteria long before colonization
just like the others, just it's had a little while longer to run its
course since it's still in the jar.

Now this is also not the first time I've done this, but it is the
first time I can do an actual comparison with a clone culture. Based
on first flush yield alone and being able to just reuse items and free
up jars is a plus in my book.


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Re: Bacterial spawn? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: natedawgnow]
    #23995535 - 01/09/17 03:29 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)

I think it's an excellent idea.  You have nothing to lose and the possibility to gain and the tek is not excessively complicated.  My top fruited jars suck and while I know some people have excellent yields, I'm not a tc or anything and generally don't always get full canopies.  I do spend a good amount of time prepping grains and jars though, and it really sucks to throw away bacterial jars after going through all that.

The bacteria we deal with, unlike mold, don't generally produce spores that spread throughout the air and your house and ruin future grows.  They're pretty much self-contained within whatever they inhabit.  They also die off fairly quickly in open air

Too bad I'm moving this week and yesterday I just threw away SEVEN old bacterial quarts I didn't want to spawn......


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Re: Bacterial spawn? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: Kenetic]
    #23996270 - 01/09/17 07:09 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)

Dawgy bag :lol: clever name!
Definitely a good idea if you need to free up some jars in a pinch!


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Re: Bacterial spawn? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: natedawgnow]
    #23996570 - 01/09/17 08:49 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)

Quote:

natedawgnow said:
That's going by our definition of BE, which is one oz mush per quart of spawn.

327 grams going by the 10% dry weight rule should be around 32 grams,
which is over one oz. Plus the spawn was bacterial so it technically
should have produced less than optimal, but it produced better than
optimal in nothing but a spawn bag as a fruiting chamber.





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Re: Bacterial spawn? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: Pezam]
    #24010709 - 01/14/17 08:03 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

Updated the op and changed the title to make it a little more detailed and inclusive!


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Re:Testing Cultures? Bacterial spawn? Limited Space? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: natedawgnow] * 1
    #24025457 - 01/20/17 12:05 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

Update:

Cased bag did better than the uncased for sure, which is good cause i cased
the tub of the same culture i'm running at the moment




The difference with these bags and the first bag I did is that these were unmodified. No
slits were cut and the bag was just left open for a good portion of the day with light mistings here and there.


Here are a couple uncased bags

This one didn't do too bad. The difference between the uncased bags with slits cut
and uncased bags with no slits is definitely noticeable! Uncased with slits cut did much better.
I can only imagine how the cased bag would have done if I cut slits in it's bag:strokebeard:

This bag and another bag are pretty far behind. I think they may have been more bacterial
than the others as they are showing more signs of stress

The other has about the same pinset but my phone died so I can't get pics of it quite yet:lol:

Here's the cased jar comparison. As you can see it is much slower than the bags and a lot
less dense of a pinset, plus the jar has been occupied now for a few weeks.


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Re: Bacterial spawn? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: natedawgnow]
    #24025489 - 01/20/17 12:21 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

Excellent work!


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Re: Bacterial spawn? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: Kenetic]
    #24025587 - 01/20/17 01:02 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

Thanks man :awesome:


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Re: Bacterial spawn? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: natedawgnow]
    #24028052 - 01/21/17 11:52 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

These seem like viable candidates for a dawgy bag?


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Re: Bacterial spawn? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: Thedenthead]
    #24028074 - 01/21/17 12:05 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

Do it up, mange!!

Those seem a little on the bacterial side but not so bad that they won't recover in a bag.
Go for it and post up your results here if you want!

Update:

from this


To this


In 24 hours



So far, each bag has put out almost 1.5oz from 1 qt of spawn each :rockon:


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Re: Bacterial spawn? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: Thedenthead]
    #24028244 - 01/21/17 01:38 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

I'll keep ya posted. Bought a different brand of WBS for these jars and it had way too much cracked corn, turned to shit. Be nice to salvage em somewhat.


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Re: Bacterial spawn? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: Thedenthead]
    #24029221 - 01/21/17 09:44 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

Good idea, might have to try this out rather than dump my sub-par spawn. 

Do you just prep a bucket tek and use it as needed/ store until needed again?  If i prep a a full bucket I'll have leftovers that may sit for a few weeks.  Might go bad, but I guess it's worth a shot.


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Re: Bacterial spawn? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: Thedillestpickle]
    #24029346 - 01/21/17 10:53 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

No, it shouldn't go bad. That is what this tek is meant for. A low waste approach and an
easy way to test cultures and make use of less than optimal spawn. For the first bag,
I used nothing but left over bucket tek coir that I added a bit of water to in order to
get it back to capacity. All bags were made with bacterial spawn.

The other 5 bags were made by breaking off a small portion of a brick, enough for 4 hydrated
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Re: Bacterial spawn? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: natedawgnow]
    #24029627 - 01/22/17 03:42 AM (7 years, 8 days ago)

Quote:

natedawgnow said:
from this


To this


In 24 hours



So far, each bag has put out almost 1.5oz from 1 qt of spawn each :rockon:




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Re: Bacterial spawn? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: blindingleaf]
    #24033026 - 01/23/17 11:21 AM (7 years, 7 days ago)

Ok guys all the bags finished up and the op is updated with pics and wet weights of each
bag.

Final wet weight harvest totaled 2354.4 grams for roughly 6 quarts of spawn :rockon:
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Re: Bacterial spawn? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: natedawgnow] * 1
    #24033270 - 01/23/17 01:35 PM (7 years, 7 days ago)

Fruiting in the bag is awesome, been doing it for a long time. Simple and low cost, though there is a waste factor involved.

One note about your Biologic Efficiency though.


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Biological efficiency of a yield is calculated by the fresh weight harvest over dry substrate weight used.

100 grams fresh yield
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Re: Bacterial spawn? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: wildernessjunkie]
    #24033282 - 01/23/17 01:39 PM (7 years, 7 days ago)

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Fruiting in the bag is awesome, been doing it for a long time. Simple and low cost, though there is a waste factor involved.

One note about your Biologic Efficiency though.


Quote:

Biological efficiency of a yield is calculated by the fresh weight harvest over dry substrate weight used.

100 grams fresh yield
100 grams dry substrate        = 100% BE





It's not about the quart, it's about the weight of dry substrate.




d'oh. i thought it was based off volume.. so its weight????.. gotcha. is it relative to each grain? how do you calculate each one? or do we not do that BS hence me thinking it was based of 1 quart per oz..????

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Re: Bacterial spawn? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: wildernessjunkie]
    #24033302 - 01/23/17 01:44 PM (7 years, 7 days ago)

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Fruiting in the bag is awesome, been doing it for a long time. Simple and low cost, though there is a waste factor involved.

One note about your Biologic Efficiency though.


Quote:

Biological efficiency of a yield is calculated by the fresh weight harvest over dry substrate weight used.

100 grams fresh yield
100 grams dry substrate        = 100% BE





It's not about the quart, it's about the weight of dry substrate.



If you had read my next comment after that one, I say that OUR definition is that 1qt=1oz for 100% BE, but in
actuality it is the equation you just put. In psych mush cult, 1qt to 1oz is accepted as 100% BE.

Also, the whole point of this tek is to limit waste. I reuse every spawn bag I have. The
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    #24033309 - 01/23/17 01:47 PM (7 years, 7 days ago)

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Ya sorry I guess I should have been more specific in that quote.

Our definition of 100% BE is one ounce per quart of spawn. anything over
1 ounce is over 100% BE.

To calculate actual biological efficiency, you divide the total yield
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Re: Bacterial spawn? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: mushboy]
    #24033314 - 01/23/17 01:49 PM (7 years, 7 days ago)

Everything is a learning process.

If you're going to measure the BE then you need to know the dry weight of the total substrate. Best time to do that is in the beginning, before hydration.

You weren't wrong on the yield estimate though. Anything upwards of a dry Oz per quarter is decent enough.


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Re: Bacterial spawn? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: wildernessjunkie]
    #24033354 - 01/23/17 02:06 PM (7 years, 7 days ago)

Again reference my last comment.

This tek is about getting the most out of less than optimal spawn so you don't have to dump it
out and also about reusing materials that you have lying around (i.e. old spawn bags, left
over cvg, etc. etc.)

Pasty and many other tc's have said that the 1qt to 1oz ratio is a good enough estimate of
100% BE without having to do all the measurements prior to prep.

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    #24033414 - 01/23/17 02:34 PM (7 years, 7 days ago)

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    #24039926 - 01/25/17 09:53 PM (7 years, 5 days ago)

Great idea! I was about to case some grain jars I have doubts about but I think this is my route :dancer:


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Re: Bacterial spawn? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: magicMerlin]
    #24040589 - 01/26/17 07:53 AM (7 years, 4 days ago)

Thanks man i hope you do!

Update

So the cased jar shit the bed. It was fruited with a plastic bag over the top
and the pinset was just awful.


I think the main reasons it didn't do so well are
A) water available in the bags vs. The jar. The bags have a much higher water
content.

B) the bags were spawned before the bacteria had a chance to multiply out of
control. The jar has a half inch of goo in it now compared to just a little
when i first cased it. The bags were spawned within a week of reaching 100%
and i think this made it so the grains could colonize faster than the bacteria
could. I have 2 bags still sitting on my table with NO mold whatsoever:shrug:

My concensus, bacteria doesn't always lead to mold if you can spawn the
jars before the bacteria can multiply out of hand. Also that not all bacterial
infections were created equal.

If it is a really bad infection from the get
go, you may not be able to spawn them. But if the jars reached 100% but are
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Re: Bacterial spawn? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: natedawgnow]
    #24040720 - 01/26/17 08:59 AM (7 years, 4 days ago)

Some of my best flushes on BRF cakes are from when I've tossed out sketchy sub's into small plastic shopping bags and left the on my front porch. .

When I went to take out the garbage- boom! Couldnt fit another mushroom on those caked :lol:


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Re: Bacterial spawn? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: mushpunx]
    #24041361 - 01/26/17 01:53 PM (7 years, 4 days ago)

4 quarts of questionable oats going to Dawgy bags today! I guess I never bought more filter patch bags when I ran out so I'll be using grocery bags. Excited to at least free up some jars!


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    #24041542 - 01/26/17 02:50 PM (7 years, 4 days ago)

I threw out like 7 quarts of spawn a half hour before he came out with this thread....


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Re: Bacterial spawn? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: mushpunx]
    #24041591 - 01/26/17 03:09 PM (7 years, 4 days ago)

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Some of my best flushes on BRF cakes are from when I've tossed out sketchy sub's into small plastic shopping bags and left the on my front porch. .

When I went to take out the garbage- boom! Couldnt fit another mushroom on those caked :lol:




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Re: Testing cultures? Bacterial spawn? Limited Space? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: natedawgnow]
    #24044971 - 01/27/17 07:33 PM (7 years, 3 days ago)

Sorry to bother you, but I am returning to the Shroomery after a  hiatus of some  years.  What happened to Mad Bags?  How or where can I purchase bags containing substrate?


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Re: Testing cultures? Bacterial spawn? Limited Space? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: 2 cats freckles] * 1
    #24044986 - 01/27/17 07:39 PM (7 years, 3 days ago)

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Sorry to bother you, but I am returning to the Shroomery after a  hiatus of some  years.  What happened to Mad Bags?  How or where can I purchase bags containing substrate?




Some of the sponsors have them. Off the top of my head I know that Out-Grow and High Mountain Compost both have them.


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    #24045012 - 01/27/17 07:54 PM (7 years, 3 days ago)

You might want to use a different grain, might not have as many issues.


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    #24045098 - 01/27/17 08:26 PM (7 years, 3 days ago)

Thanks.  I did some searching and found that there are some entities out there that have them, and that The Hawks Eye is now Mushrooms.com


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Re: Bacterial spawn? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: The Mycologist]
    #24045857 - 01/28/17 08:20 AM (7 years, 2 days ago)

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You might want to use a different grain, might not have as many issues.



I don't have a lot of issues with oats, just that I had a G2G go bad with bacteria, probably
from myself or possibly hidden in the master jar.

On the other hand, I am officially done with this bag of oats and I'm thinking of making
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Re: Bacterial spawn? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: natedawgnow]
    #24046102 - 01/28/17 10:19 AM (7 years, 2 days ago)

It may be just pure luck but I haven't had any issues with wheat kernels yet. I have never had a reason to PC for more than 90 mins and all my runs before Christmas were all 11psi

Don't quote me on this but I have a feeling that wheat has a lower endospore count than other grains. May be worth switching to or at least giving it a shot.
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    #24081973 - 02/11/17 11:08 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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    #24082073 - 02/11/17 11:54 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Is gypsum required in this tek?


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    #24082082 - 02/11/17 12:02 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

I believe gypsum is optional mate


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    #24082089 - 02/11/17 12:06 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Alright. Then Im good to go then. Coz I had to travel far to get gypsum. :tongue2:


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    #24082093 - 02/11/17 12:08 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Yea many people use coffee grinds and or gypsum but it's a personal preference really, it's not required.


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    #24083172 - 02/11/17 08:35 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

All those bags were made with cvg so ya they had gypsum but no it's not required


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    #24098763 - 02/17/17 08:11 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Are these the correct steps?

1. Get a huge ziplock bag, make a hole on side of it and tape it with micropore.

2. Put inside 1 quart of coir and throw in the spawn and mix it.

3. close the top of ziplock bag.

4. (NOT SURE ) cover the whole bag or maybe put it in dark place??

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    #24098810 - 02/17/17 08:33 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

You do not have to poke holes in the bag at all if you don't want to. Only one of the bags
in the OP had holes cut in them, the rest were just left with the tops open during the day
and misted as needed.

No, do not put the bags in a dark place. On a table or shelf with regular indirect light is
best.

When you are ready to fruit, open the tops of the bags or cut slits at sub level and towards
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    #24098897 - 02/17/17 09:23 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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You do not have to poke holes in the bag at all if you don't want to. Only one of the bags
in the OP had holes cut in them, the rest were just left with the tops open during the day
and misted as needed.

No, do not put the bags in a dark place. On a table or shelf with regular indirect light is
best.

When you are ready to fruit, open the tops of the bags or cut slits at sub level and towards
the tops of the bags.

If you use ziplock bags, try to make the sub surface as flat as possible for better pinning




Ok. So this is what I understood.

1. Get a big ziplock bag, put coir inside and spawn, mix them well, make the surface of the bag flat (not tight flat).

2. Close the ziplock bag from top. FULLY CLOSED.

3. After it has been colonized, just open fully the top of ziplock bags and wait, mist when needed.


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Re: Bacterial spawn? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: shumer44] * 1
    #24112197 - 02/22/17 10:06 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

I made 3 Dawgybags with Target plastic bags. They fully colonized normal times but I had trouble using the plastic bag to fruit. I ended up cutting the bags like liners and tossing them in mini-monos and they all knotted within 2 days and 2 of the 3 are beginning to pin. :mushroom2:


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    #24112245 - 02/22/17 10:27 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Dialing in a shopping bag is definitely a little more difficult than spawn bags :lol:

I would just leave the shopping bag open completely and mist regularly to get them to fruit
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    #24112254 - 02/22/17 10:31 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

I tried that with one. I tied another bag up and cut holes which were patched with MP tape. The third bag I cut the handles off of and made some stupid tape contraption trying to get a big FAE port going on. I realized I was going to need to mist and I had it all taped up so that was kind of a factor when deciding to just throw them into minis :lol:


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    #24122006 - 02/26/17 07:12 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Waiting for a big shipment of port bags, which I intend to inject with Penis Envy, B Plus, Golden Teachers, Ps Azurescens.  Should be a good haul.  Looking forward to it.  Personal use only, not for sale.


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Re: Testing cultures? Bacterial spawn? Limited Space? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: natedawgnow]
    #24936627 - 01/23/18 04:16 PM (6 years, 7 days ago)

Wow, this is great.  I am definitely going to have to try this!  :thumbup:


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Re:Testing Cultures? Bacterial spawn? Limited Space? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: natedawgnow]
    #24937165 - 01/23/18 07:06 PM (6 years, 7 days ago)

Great simple Awesome post.  Perfect name.


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Is that like a V-tek?

Check out these Dawgey like bags.  You can change the direction.
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Re:Testing Cultures? Bacterial spawn? Limited Space? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: wtfcrazymofo]
    #24937228 - 01/23/18 07:30 PM (6 years, 7 days ago)

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Re: Testing cultures? Bacterial spawn? Limited Space? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: natedawgnow]
    #25373921 - 08/08/18 02:39 AM (5 years, 5 months ago)

So, NateDawgNow,

I just posted questions looking for an efficient method for testing cultures like this!  (https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25372971#25372971) 
Your dawgy bag method seems to make more sense than anything else I've run across. 

A few questions:

1. I've got no bags and will need to buy whatever.  Do you suggest I buy spawn bags, or . . . ?

2. Were you using the small (4" x 3" x 18") bags?

3. When you case the bag, you added the casing after full colonization, right?

4. What and how much do you use for the casing?

Thanks!


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Re: Testing cultures? Bacterial spawn? Limited Space? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: ImCurious]
    #25390113 - 08/15/18 12:27 PM (5 years, 5 months ago)

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ImCurious said:
So, NateDawgNow,

I just posted questions looking for an efficient method for testing cultures like this!  (https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25372971#25372971) 
Your dawgy bag method seems to make more sense than anything else I've run across. 

A few questions:

1. I've got no bags and will need to buy whatever.  Do you suggest I buy spawn bags, or . . . ?

2. Were you using the small (4" x 3" x 18") bags?

3. When you case the bag, you added the casing after full colonization, right?

4. What and how much do you use for the casing?

Thanks!



Hey dude my bad on the late reply

Any kind of bag will do but i was using .5m medium spawn bads. Grocery bags and the
like work also but spawn bags are best.

I cased at spawning with a handful of leftover coir substrate but the uncased
bags did just fine if not better than the cased ones. This may be genetic
dependant though.

Good luck with your grow dude!


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Re: Testing cultures? Bacterial spawn? Limited Space? Dawgy Bag it! [Re: natedawgnow]
    #25605160 - 11/10/18 10:47 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

Do you get multiple flushes?  This worked great for some bad spawn.  I had to totally cut the bag apart to harvest, lots of side pins.  Going to put the blocks in a sgfc to try for next flush.  Thanks for the tek!


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