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Re: language [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23991785 - 01/08/17 08:13 AM (7 years, 22 days ago)

Kurt--

The difficult thing to imagine is that this seeming basis of language is probably nothing like an organic origin of language; and we just tend to think it is, when we have a consolidated syntax and rules. How important is pointing to the world, to language really? Maybe like in Stanley Kubrick's version of origins, we held a hefty stick, or passed it around before we pointed it at predators and preys, and at other natural things. But maybe we sang a song (inflection), or maybe a "point" of this or that, was just a syncopation of rythmn around a fire?

Two things come to mind, Kurt - one is that tone, of voice, carries or portrays more information than the words themselves - at least,  some have said this, and various studies have shown - as well as body language, and so forth.

Second thing is related to this - since online, we have not tone of voice - although it can be conveyed and heard by various more subtle means, such as history, relationships, and other intuitive factors, altogether making up parts of various forms of meta-communication (see, hyper-text),

we have a unique opportunity of a new form of communication; so it is language in a new sense, and in a new way.  Connected to this, is the significant point that all our words are recorded and - in a relative sense, at least perhaps, -- eternal. . . In another sense, one may say these things are always there or have been -- so when Goethe said, 'Every word and action is reflected throughout infinity' two hundred years before McKenna's life, we here on Shroomery are seeing his words, even though he wrote them down on paper; they eventually got recorded and put online (and, in this case, adapted, as this is not a direct quote... so don't quote me. :smile: )

So -- in relation to this, the case might be made that it is not completely different, or not entirely, simply - magnified, examined and accelerated, by being placed and published online, and distributed instantly to the world-wide-web, and possible to to be replied to, etc., -- as well as, lasting and so forth.

Cheers :smile:


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Re: language [Re: Halayudha]
    #23992336 - 01/08/17 12:51 PM (7 years, 22 days ago)

Good post Halayudha :sun:


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