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EvLord
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Candyflip
#23980878 - 01/04/17 09:25 AM (7 years, 26 days ago) |
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I know there is a lot of info out there about candy flipping but I have a question about dosing with what I have. First off I have done acid many times and would call myself experienced but I have never tried mdma. I have .3 grams of mdma and 3 tabs of acid and I want to try mdma by itself before putting it into a combo so my question to you is does trying .2 on its own first then flipping with 2 tabs and .1 then saving the other tab sound like a good idea or what do you guys think? I also was thinking dosing the mdma 4 hours after the acid.
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Re: Candyflip [Re: EvLord]
#23980940 - 01/04/17 09:57 AM (7 years, 26 days ago) |
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i think thats not a bad idea to split it up. definitely don't take the .3 at once. i once heard a talk from sasha shulgin on drug combinations, and when it came to candy flipping (though he didn't call it that) he said that he liked to take the MDMA first and wait till he started to feel the effects from that. once he noticed that, thats when he'd drop the L. he said doing it in this manner allowed the light lovey feelings from the MDMA carry throughout the trip, even though it'd be out of your system well before the trip is through. the few times i've candy flipped i've used this method, and i've always had a good time with it. stay safe.
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Re: Candyflip [Re: zombi]
#23981038 - 01/04/17 10:35 AM (7 years, 26 days ago) |
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OP As long as you don't mean on the same night then that's a good way to go.
If you try the MDMA on its own first, you should really take a long tolerance break before candyflipping.
Re-dosing MDMA the same night is a bad idea.
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EvLord
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Yes I definitely don't mean re dosing on the same night, I'm just not sure if I want to try .2 then candyflip and save a tab or try .1 then candyflip with .2 and the 3 tabs that might be the way I go too. The dosing times are also still undecided.
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Re: Candyflip [Re: zombi]
#23981123 - 01/04/17 11:19 AM (7 years, 26 days ago) |
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Doing mdma first does allow you to already be feeling the good vibes before the weirdness of the lsd take hold. But it also means you have to feel an mdma comedown during a really nice lsd trip.
The way me and most people I know do it, is by taking the lsd first, and waiting just about unit you start to feel it coming on, then taking the mdma. This way they both peak at the same time, making for what I would call, imo, a true candyflip experience. And the comedowns will be much closer together.
Again, in my own personal opinion, doing mdma first then lsd, doesn't count as a candy flip. It's just doing mdma and lsd at the same time. The candyflip is a synergy of the two that has to be timed just right.
OP, do what ever feels right to you, there's more than enough life left to find more mdma and more lsd. You'll have plenty more trips and adventures before it's all said and done. Sounds like you already got this figured out.
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You could always do .15, and then do another .15 on the flip ;P
But I think .1 would be fine for a candyflip. In my experience with this combo, you don't need anywhere as much MDMA to have an incredible effect.
LSD first then MD a couple hours later is a good way.
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If this is your first candyflip, keep the doses low as both substances seem to potentiate each other, in my experience 100ug LSD + 100mg MDMA is like having 200ug LSD by itself. As for timing, taking the MDMA 2-3 hours after placing the LSD in your mouth is a really sweet spot. You don't want to take the MDMA too early otherwise you will be tripping while coming down, which is a bad time.
Try .18 MDMA by itself, then wait at the very least a week, preferability two before candy flipping. You can always start off with 2 tabs and have the third a little later if you're feeling it, if so don't wait too long (up to 2 hrs) otherwise it will only stretch out the duration without adding to the experience.
My most powerful experience was by myself in my room on a Friday night, ate 2 tabs then a 3rd 30 minutes later with 120mg MDMA 2.5 hours after the 3rd tab. Just as the peak got almost too intense, the MDMA swooped in and saved the day Words can't even describe it, I've never been that 'high' ever. I will never forget that night.
Also if you're looking for something to do, watch animal planet on mute while listening to music through earphones The animals dance in sync with the music its hillarious.
Lastly, make sure you have had a good amount of sleep beforehand as this combo can keep you awake for a long time. Sleep deprivation while tripping is chaos.
Make sure you report back with how it went!
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These substances make each other stronger. Dose low. Very low. I don't care how "experienced" you are with tripping, you have none at all here.
My first candyflip I took 200ug and 100mg 2-3 hours in. I was blown away. Thats coming from someone who would take 4-500ug trips.
I have had a half dozen candy flips, and I can finally say that 300ug+100MG+100MG redose is a little much. I know the mdma will almost take away any bad trips, but I had a little bit of panic with that last dose. Its a good combo, start slow.
I prefer to take the molly 2-4 hours after the LSD. I make sure the trip is all good, everything is chilled out and you are comfortable with what is going on. Don't take them at the same time..You don't want to be crashing on molly when you are tripping balls on lsd.
You should not need more than 100MG mdma for a flip, unless you got some weak molly, or you roll very often. I roll fairly often, its been every 2 weeks or so and 100MG still hits me just how I want it to on my flips.
Edited by LSDollar (01/05/17 11:40 AM)
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Re: Candyflip [Re: zombi]
#23983779 - 01/05/17 12:14 PM (7 years, 25 days ago) |
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zombi said: i think thats not a bad idea to split it up. definitely don't take the .3 at once. i once heard a talk from sasha shulgin on drug combinations, and when it came to candy flipping (though he didn't call it that) he said that he liked to take the MDMA first and wait till he started to feel the effects from that. once he noticed that, thats when he'd drop the L. he said doing it in this manner allowed the light lovey feelings from the MDMA carry throughout the trip, even though it'd be out of your system well before the trip is through. the few times i've candy flipped i've used this method, and i've always had a good time with it. stay safe.
I personally don't like coming down from MDMA on L. For me it makes the trip turn dark and negative. Better to take it about half way through the trip so you can come down off both together, smoke a little weed and be mellow. Honestly, I think MDMA goes better with mushrooms than L. Or you could just do mescaline on its own.
Edited by P.Zappatecorum (01/05/17 12:15 PM)
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I just did my first mescaline experience with San Pedro, and a little puruvianus...it felt almost identical to MDMA IMO...I did 28g of San Pedro then like 6 hours later did 8 grams of peruvianus...it was beautiful but like I said more like mdma with no visuals but lots of euphoria and body load.
What cacti gives a more intense visual experience? I really enjoyed the effect but I'm highly interested in a profound mescaline experience....I'm thinking I would need to consume 56 grams of San Pedro to get where I would want to be...
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i'd take 150mg your first roll and when you candy flip take .1 and a redose if you'd like or 150mg
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mirraco said: These substances make each other stronger. Dose low. Very low. I don't care how "experienced" you are with tripping, you have none at all here.
My first candyflip I took 200ug and 100mg 2-3 hours in. I was blown away. Thats coming from someone who would take 4-500ug trips.
I have had a half dozen candy flips, and I can finally say that 300ug+100MG+100MG redose is a little much. I know the mdma will almost take away any bad trips, but I had a little bit of panic with that last dose. Its a good combo, start slow.
I prefer to take the molly 2-4 hours after the LSD. I make sure the trip is all good, everything is chilled out and you are comfortable with what is going on. Don't take them at the same time..You don't want to be crashing on molly when you are tripping balls on lsd.
You should not need more than 100MG mdma for a flip, unless you got some weak molly, or you roll very often. I roll fairly often, its been every 2 weeks or so and 100MG still hits me just how I want it to on my flips.
Every two weeks, how long for? Do you notice much diminished returns? Sorry just curious, I've seen things get ugly with friends etc. from frequent dosing.
OP, I wouldn't recommend a first timer take 200mg for their first time with mdma. 150mg will give you the entire range of positive effects and taking more will only increase the negative. 150mg may even be a little intense for you, but you'd be right.
I agree with others saying no more than 100mg for flip. I'd go 150mg max first time. Give a decent break between next dose (the flip) and dose 100mg 3~ hours into the trip followed by another 50mg 90 mins later. The redose won't increase the effects of the mdma, but will make it last a little longer.
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Re: Candyflip [Re: EvLord]
#23985022 - 01/05/17 08:00 PM (7 years, 25 days ago) |
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I wouldn't candyflip the first time you are gonna use mdma
Trust me man, MDMA is MORE than enough if it's your first time. My first mdma roll was so fucking intense and amazing I cannot even begin to describe it. I was so scared to try candyflipping for a while because mdma was so strong and lsd is very strong as well so it's a little scary doing it but it all blends out all in the end ime for the best possible trip ever.
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mirraco said: These substances make each other stronger. Dose low. Very low. I don't care how "experienced" you are with tripping, you have none at all here.
My first candyflip I took 200ug and 100mg 2-3 hours in. I was blown away. Thats coming from someone who would take 4-500ug trips.
I have had a half dozen candy flips, and I can finally say that 300ug+100MG+100MG redose is a little much. I know the mdma will almost take away any bad trips, but I had a little bit of panic with that last dose. Its a good combo, start slow.
I prefer to take the molly 2-4 hours after the LSD. I make sure the trip is all good, everything is chilled out and you are comfortable with what is going on. Don't take them at the same time..You don't want to be crashing on molly when you are tripping balls on lsd.
You should not need more than 100MG mdma for a flip, unless you got some weak molly, or you roll very often. I roll fairly often, its been every 2 weeks or so and 100MG still hits me just how I want it to on my flips.
Every two weeks, how long for? Do you notice much diminished returns? Sorry just curious, I've seen things get ugly with friends etc. from frequent dosing.
OP, I wouldn't recommend a first timer take 200mg for their first time with mdma. 150mg will give you the entire range of positive effects and taking more will only increase the negative. 150mg may even be a little intense for you, but you'd be right.
I agree with others saying no more than 100mg for flip. I'd go 150mg max first time. Give a decent break between next dose (the flip) and dose 100mg 3~ hours into the trip followed by another 50mg 90 mins later. The redose won't increase the effects of the mdma, but will make it last a little longer.
Yep, magic is starting to go away. i am taking a good 2-3 month break. My tolerance is skyhigh. Literally, 200MG+ 150MG redose and I feel pretty good. But my first couple rolls, 100MG and 50MG redose was hell of a lot better. Its fun, but it just gets more speedy amphetamine type high than the i love the whole world feeling. I still get talkative, that intense body rush isn't so intense anymore. Its been a couple months now. Im taking a break from mdma, I may candyflip in a month though. I have noticed, my candyflips have not really been affected but when I just take the mdma i can tell the difference. Stay safe, pre-loading, post-loading isn't worth the hassle. Stay smart, take long breaks, and you will be having great times for long times
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EvLord
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Thanks guys I have decided that I will try 150mg my first mdma experience and the for the flip I will dose 2 tabs and then the other 150mg 4 hours after the acid, then I'll save my other tab to experience a lower dose of acid as I have never taken only one tab, unless I get more and dicide to combine it by that point haha but either way you guys helped me make my decision and feel good about it!
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Re: Candyflip [Re: EvLord]
#23986583 - 01/06/17 01:49 PM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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I would suggest not going that route
My buddy once swung by in the middle of me candyflipping and he really wanted to do it because he saw how much fun I was having. So I gave him 1 strong tab and said "wait about 3-4 hours and then take this mdma" which I handed him about 130mg worth of.
I don't know why he didn't listen to that but he ended up dosing the mdma when I wasnt looking or something and ended up taking both the lsd and mdma at the same time.
He said the peak was so intense his brain felt like it was just "too much" and he felt overstimulated and nauseous. I would say the peak of MDMA is the most intense peak of any drug ever aside from maybe dmt haha, so having that for your FIRST TIME on not one but TWO tabs of LSD just sounds like you're not gonna enjoy it.
Let me explain why it's called candyflipping - Basically the LSD and MDMA are your "candies" and you take the LSD first. You start tripping on the LSD and then go through the 3-4 hour peak, and then you "flip" the "candy" peak by dosing the mdma when the LSD peak is over. Then the MDMA peak lines up 45-60 minutes after that and then you feel like you're peaking on the acid again while also peaking on the mdma and it blends into the most beautiful experience ever. If done right, you would have peaked on LSD, then the MDMA, and then both drugs will wear off at the same time at hour 12 of the trip.
But if you took them both at once, you would probably just get too fucked up for 4-6 hours then have your mdma comedown and hangover DURING the last 6-8 hours of your trip. just doesn't sound like fun. I would also recommend you stick with just 1 tab, I always would trip on 2 tabs of really good lsd without ever doing just one, not even my first time. But everyone everywhere told me it would be better if I just took 1 because the mdma will send the lsd back into full blast and then some once it kicks in. Im glad I did, the first few hours with just the LSD kind of sucked since I would always take at least 2x that much, but once I felt that mdma start kicking in.... holy shit I just started to feel sweat drip from my forehead and was hit with euphoria across all 5 senses. Amazing stuff!
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Yeah that's the plan! Idk if you didn't understand what I was saying but the first 150mg is going to be all on its own on a totally different occasion so I can experience mdma by itself before putting it into a combo. Then I was saying I would take the other 150mg 4 hours after dosing the acid for the candyflip which I plan to do a few weeks after my first mdma experience, I think it was just a misunderstanding but we are on the same page!
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Re: Candyflip [Re: EvLord]
#23987151 - 01/06/17 05:16 PM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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EvLord said: Yeah that's the plan! Idk if you didn't understand what I was saying but the first 150mg is going to be all on its own on a totally different occasion so I can experience mdma by itself before putting it into a combo. Then I was saying I would take the other 150mg 4 hours after dosing the acid for the candyflip which I plan to do a few weeks after my first mdma experience, I think it was just a misunderstanding but we are on the same page!
Ah okay, good plan. I wanted to candyflip before I wanted to just try mdma on it's own as well and it took me a while to decide to try mdma alone first. turns out that was a great decision. MDMA is super intense, it is the only drug I know of where it can actually make you feel like you are "too" euphoric or "too" high (in a good way) in a literal sense haha. Plus the first few times (ESPECIALLY the first time though) you do mdma are by far the best. The thing that made me make my decision was the fact that I read everywhere your first mdma dose is extremely magical and your best roll you will have ever, so I didnt want to taint it with another drug. Im only 9 rolls in now and my last 3 were nothing compared to the first 6, and my first roll was definitely my best (i did also take 200mg my first time of very pure stuff and an 80mg redose a few hours later haha)
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mirraco said: These substances make each other stronger. Dose low. Very low. I don't care how "experienced" you are with tripping, you have none at all here.
My first candyflip I took 200ug and 100mg 2-3 hours in. I was blown away. Thats coming from someone who would take 4-500ug trips.
I have had a half dozen candy flips, and I can finally say that 300ug+100MG+100MG redose is a little much. I know the mdma will almost take away any bad trips, but I had a little bit of panic with that last dose. Its a good combo, start slow.
I prefer to take the molly 2-4 hours after the LSD. I make sure the trip is all good, everything is chilled out and you are comfortable with what is going on. Don't take them at the same time..You don't want to be crashing on molly when you are tripping balls on lsd.
You should not need more than 100MG mdma for a flip, unless you got some weak molly, or you roll very often. I roll fairly often, its been every 2 weeks or so and 100MG still hits me just how I want it to on my flips.
Every two weeks, how long for? Do you notice much diminished returns? Sorry just curious, I've seen things get ugly with friends etc. from frequent dosing.
OP, I wouldn't recommend a first timer take 200mg for their first time with mdma. 150mg will give you the entire range of positive effects and taking more will only increase the negative. 150mg may even be a little intense for you, but you'd be right.
I agree with others saying no more than 100mg for flip. I'd go 150mg max first time. Give a decent break between next dose (the flip) and dose 100mg 3~ hours into the trip followed by another 50mg 90 mins later. The redose won't increase the effects of the mdma, but will make it last a little longer.
Yep, magic is starting to go away. i am taking a good 2-3 month break. My tolerance is skyhigh. Literally, 200MG+ 150MG redose and I feel pretty good. But my first couple rolls, 100MG and 50MG redose was hell of a lot better. Its fun, but it just gets more speedy amphetamine type high than the i love the whole world feeling. I still get talkative, that intense body rush isn't so intense anymore. Its been a couple months now. Im taking a break from mdma, I may candyflip in a month though. I have noticed, my candyflips have not really been affected but when I just take the mdma i can tell the difference. Stay safe, pre-loading, post-loading isn't worth the hassle. Stay smart, take long breaks, and you will be having great times for long times
True. It's already not as sparkly for me and that's only 5 times this year with responisible breaks for the most part. Good shit with having a break, bro. Couple of my homies have gone a bit far with it, and it doesn't end well. I'm having a break and keeping it for special occasions. Good to know it still gives peak performance with flips!
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