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AkashicExplorer
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A couple questions about Shrooms and being diagnosed with Lorazepam. Psychedelic trip just from pill
#23980393 - 01/04/17 12:48 AM (7 years, 26 days ago) |
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Hey folks, so some of you know me well.
I have been diagnosed with Lorazepam to sleep and I am wondering how will this play with mushrooms.
I am on my test-month and my doctor will tell what after, but I know benzos kill the shrooms. I do shamanic trips to heal my energy and myself with them.
I planned of being on benzos three weeks on, then maybe a week off. Then three weeks on and last week off.
If I trip after a week of resting off from benzos, will they still get on the way? I do one shroom trip every 2-3 months by myself at home tucked in bed hehe.
How to play around with the benzos to not ruin the trip?
Also, yesterday I had my 6th pill. I had my benzo pill of the day with a valerian tea. I also smoked about half a joint or so. Tolerance makes me almost not feel the weed, but removes my pain. I did like I did all previous 5 nights, but last night, upon laying in bed, I started to trip a little. It was not weed-alike trip, it was new. Very intense auditory sounds and I my mind raced a few times and saw a lot of mechanics and a bit of the matrix (but not like mushrooms) it was intense at some point, the sounds were very loud. It did not happen before, why on the 6th pill? It was amusing, but I am curious.
And last, I know I need to ask my doc for this, but I wanted to try two pills to see if I sleep even more. I figure two x 1mg Lorazepam is safe, right?
Thanks for answers!
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Re: A couple questions about Shrooms and being diagnosed with Lorazepam. Psychedelic trip just from pill [Re: AkashicExplorer]
#23980402 - 01/04/17 12:54 AM (7 years, 26 days ago) |
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In my opinion as long as you don't eat the Benzo the same day as the L, shrooms, or mescaline it wont effect (dull) your trip , itll only dull it if you eat a Benzo after consuming your magic entheogen
And yes 2mg of lorazepam is safe I I remember correctly dustbunny said either a certain or all benzos actually have a ld50 like in the grams plus range (do not take that as a fact) but I swear I read that on here somewhere
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Re: A couple questions about Shrooms and being diagnosed with Lorazepam. Psychedelic trip just from pill [Re: connectedcosmos]
#23980516 - 01/04/17 02:45 AM (7 years, 26 days ago) |
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The Benz will I believe not work after 12 hours, why it was prescribed, your dosage is low.. If you want a strong trip stay off it for a few days, so the level of the Benz drops in your bloodstream, therefore not effecting a trip or dose of whatever psychedelic you choose.
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Re: A couple questions about Shrooms and being diagnosed with Lorazepam. Psychedelic trip just from pill [Re: thelastoneleft]
#23980791 - 01/04/17 08:42 AM (7 years, 26 days ago) |
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I really wonder about your docs decision, since Lorazepam should be used for emergency and short term medication only and is usually not recommended for long term therapy except epilepsy treatment due to its addictive potential.
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Re: A couple questions about Shrooms and being diagnosed with Lorazepam. Psychedelic trip just from pill [Re: DerPda]
#23980839 - 01/04/17 09:01 AM (7 years, 26 days ago) |
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Like people in other professions a lot of doctors are clueless morons who can barely do their job. That's probably all the explanation we really need.
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Re: A couple questions about Shrooms and being diagnosed with Lorazepam. Psychedelic trip just from pill [Re: krypto2000]
#23980858 - 01/04/17 09:12 AM (7 years, 26 days ago) |
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krypto2000 said: Like people in other professions a lot of doctors are clueless morons who can barely do their job. That's probably all the explanation we really need.
Yeah most doctors go by like a government mandated book basically, pretty much like brand new out of school psychiatrist, they have no clue whatthere actually doing
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Re: A couple questions about Shrooms and being diagnosed with Lorazepam. Psychedelic trip just from pill [Re: connectedcosmos]
#23980900 - 01/04/17 09:36 AM (7 years, 26 days ago) |
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I think the books actually say that benzos should only be for short term use for anxiety and epilepsy though, any other use, such as sleeping, long term anxiety treatment, etc, is off label use. I'm not dr so take that as hearsay, but if true you have to wonder why they think it's a good idea to prescribe them in this way. Where does that come from? Drug companies? Naivety? I don't know.
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Re: A couple questions about Shrooms and being diagnosed with Lorazepam. Psychedelic trip just from pill [Re: AkashicExplorer]
#23980906 - 01/04/17 09:39 AM (7 years, 26 days ago) |
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Diagnosed with lorazepam 
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AkashicExplorer
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Re: A couple questions about Shrooms and being diagnosed with Lorazepam. Psychedelic trip just from pill [Re: DerPda]
#23980947 - 01/04/17 09:59 AM (7 years, 26 days ago) |
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DerPda said: I really wonder about your docs decision, since Lorazepam should be used for emergency and short term medication only and is usually not recommended for long term therapy except epilepsy treatment due to its addictive potential.
Yep, I know, I have read it in the box... I am aware of that also and plan to ask her. I think she is testing meds. Not sure.
How about that odd "trip" Anyone explains?
My doc put me for one box (28 days) and we'll see!
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Re: A couple questions about Shrooms and being diagnosed with Lorazepam. Psychedelic trip just from pill [Re: AkashicExplorer]
#23981031 - 01/04/17 10:32 AM (7 years, 26 days ago) |
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It could have just been the weed, or the combo. It happens.
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Re: A couple questions about Shrooms and being diagnosed with Lorazepam. Psychedelic trip just from pill [Re: AkashicExplorer]
#23981035 - 01/04/17 10:34 AM (7 years, 26 days ago) |
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Id recommend trying natural remedies for sleep issues and avoid becoming dependent on pharmaceuticals where applicable.
Just as others said just because a doctor recommends it doesn't mean it's safe or the best option
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Re: A couple questions about Shrooms and being diagnosed with Lorazepam. Psychedelic trip just from pill [Re: Psychonott]
#23981140 - 01/04/17 11:31 AM (7 years, 26 days ago) |
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Firstly. It depends on larazopams half life. Every time you take a klonopin before the mrtabolites clear your body the half life will be longer because more drugs have entered your system.
Valerian root can and will potentiate benzodizepines, that's probably why you got trippy.
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Re: A couple questions about Shrooms and being diagnosed with Lorazepam. Psychedelic trip just from pill [Re: AkashicExplorer]
#23981197 - 01/04/17 11:52 AM (7 years, 26 days ago) |
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You didn't get diagnosed with a drug lol you got prescribed one.
As the first guy said as long as it's not the same day you should be fine but why do you think it's okay to take them anyways? I say regardless of whether you use psychedelics or not just stay the hell away from benzos.
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I do shamanic trips to heal my energy and myself with them.
No offense but if this were actually true you wouldn't be the kind of person who needs Ativan to fall asleep.
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Re: A couple questions about Shrooms and being diagnosed with Lorazepam. Psychedelic trip just from pill [Re: impaired420]
#23981207 - 01/04/17 11:56 AM (7 years, 26 days ago) |
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The "funniest thing" is that I have no reason for anxiety and lack of sleep. Anxiety is mild I believe, I do not even know. Shaky legs sometimes, but not every day.
I have a good life, a couple working businesses and a stable family... so kind of sucks to have anxiety and some insomnia out of nowhere lol.
My last shroom trip (https://www.shroomery.org/13835/8-hours-trip-Staring-the-Face-of-Madness-Much-further-than-Ego-Death-Healing-with-the-Ancestors) always aids on clearing accumulated energy, so it is neither.
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Re: A couple questions about Shrooms and being diagnosed with Lorazepam. Psychedelic trip just from pill [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
#23981214 - 01/04/17 11:58 AM (7 years, 26 days ago) |
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AuroraBorealis88 said: You didn't get diagnosed with a drug lol you got prescribed one.
As the first guy said as long as it's not the same day you should be fine but why do you think it's okay to take them anyways? I say regardless of whether you use psychedelics or not just stay the hell away from benzos.
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I do shamanic trips to heal my energy and myself with them.
No offense but if this were actually true you wouldn't be the kind of person who needs Ativan to fall asleep.
I am not experienced with doctors, it is the first time I am prescribed something.
And assume what you desire. Trust me, if I did not have chronic neuropathic pain I would probably sleep better, if I did not have some other pains in other areas, I would probably sleep better.
But yeah, I guess you are right and I don't have the focus I claim. I wonder where all my trips come from then... maybe you also know that!
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Re: A couple questions about Shrooms and being diagnosed with Lorazepam. Psychedelic trip just from pill [Re: AkashicExplorer]
#23982956 - 01/05/17 01:38 AM (7 years, 25 days ago) |
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I had failed back surgery in 2012 that left me with nerve pain, insomnia and depression.I was prescribed benzodiazepines for anxiety and sleep along with morphine and oxycodone. I used those meds as prescribed for about 4 years. They lost effectiveness after a while and when I quit it was hell. The benzodiazepines are twice as hard to quit than opiates,cocaine and tobacco. And memory loss both short and long-term. Be careful with trusting your doctor. I trusted mine and he told me since I had used cannabis daily for 25 years that I must be depressed and scripted anti depressant. I had serotonin syndrome and nearly died.Then got me hooked on benzodiazepines and opiates. Thankfully back to cannabis, kratom and shrooms. Fuck Doctors
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Re: A couple questions about Shrooms and being diagnosed with Lorazepam. Psychedelic trip just from pill [Re: Headrush]
#23983061 - 01/05/17 03:54 AM (7 years, 25 days ago) |
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Headrush said: I had failed back surgery in 2012 that left me with nerve pain, insomnia and depression.I was prescribed benzodiazepines for anxiety and sleep along with morphine and oxycodone. I used those meds as prescribed for about 4 years. They lost effectiveness after a while and when I quit it was hell. The benzodiazepines are twice as hard to quit than opiates,cocaine and tobacco. And memory loss both short and long-term. Be careful with trusting your doctor. I trusted mine and he told me since I had used cannabis daily for 25 years that I must be depressed and scripted anti depressant. I had serotonin syndrome and nearly died.Then got me hooked on benzodiazepines and opiates. Thankfully back to cannabis, kratom and shrooms. Fuck Doctors
This is what I am doing... The benzo was a new add, but I am using Cannabis for Pain and Shrooms for going through healings such as the last one (link above)
Would be wise to use kratom for a week or so to lower my weed tolerance? I know with that, more sleep will come But now, I need to smoke as the pain is killing me otherwise.
I have actually been considering kratom, but I need to do a normal life (from home, but still)
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Edited by AkashicExplorer (01/05/17 05:51 AM)
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Re: A couple questions about Shrooms and being diagnosed with Lorazepam. Psychedelic trip just from pill [Re: AkashicExplorer]
#23983186 - 01/05/17 06:40 AM (7 years, 25 days ago) |
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Kratom is a great herb. I had read about it for over a year before trying it. It sounded good to be true. It works as well as hydrocodone for me. Been using it for a few months and I have noticed no negative effects myself. It has allowed me to lower my cannabis use also. Highly recommended
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