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Mysterious Marijuana-Related Illness Popping Up In Emergency Rooms
    #23980032 - 01/03/17 09:06 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

The vomiting illness is increasing in states with legal pot.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5869d6bee4b0eb586489f7e6

A mysterious marijuana-related illness is popping up with increasing frequency in hospital emergency rooms, particularly in states where cannabis is now legal.

The symptoms are severe abdominal pain and violent vomiting — and most doctors are initially stumped when they encounter patients with the problem.

The illness is cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome, which is linked to heavy, long-term use of marijuana, according to experts. For some reason, the nausea and vomiting of CHS can be relieved with hot showers or baths, which can serve as an important hint for physicians trying to diagnose a patient.

Since 2009, when the federal government relaxed its stance on medical marijuana, emergency room diagnoses for CHS in two of Colorado’s hospitals nearly doubled, according to a study co-authored by Dr. Kennon Heard, a physician at the University of Colorado Hospital in Aurora. Now that cannabis is also legal for recreational use in the state, “we are seeing it quite frequently,” Heard told CBS News. “My colleagues are seeing this on a daily to weekly basis.”

Emergency rooms in other areas where cannabis is legal are also reporting more cases of CHS. Georgetown University Hospital in Washington, D.C., and Harborview Medical Center and the University of Washington Medical Center in Seattle are among hospitals reporting an uptick.

Though CHS was first recognized almost a decade ago, not much is known about the illness.

“The science behind it is not clear,” Heard told the Denver Channel. “The most likely cause is that people using marijuana frequently and in high doses have changes in the receptors in their body, and those receptors become dysregulated in some way, and it starts causing pain.”

Dr. David Steinbruner, an emergency room physician at Memorial Hospital in Colorado Springs, believes it’s likely triggered with a significant amount of marijuana. “The corollary would be alcohol. So small amounts may be fine for people, but over a long time it will cause all kinds of problems,” Steinbruner told KDRO-TV.

In its most severe form, the illness can lead to kidney failure — but symptoms stop within days of ending marijuana use.

“Patients are given IV fluids and medication to resolve the vomiting and help with the pain,” explained Heard. “But the treatment is really to stop using marijuana, or at least to cut back severely, and that’s really the only way to make it better.”


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Re: Mysterious Marijuana-Related Illness Popping Up In Emergency Rooms [Re: California]
    #23980057 - 01/03/17 09:22 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

Bullshit!


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Re: Mysterious Marijuana-Related Illness Popping Up In Emergency Rooms [Re: California]
    #23980089 - 01/03/17 09:41 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4469074/
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Visit diagnoses of “gastroenteritis” were excluded only if there was documentation of nausea and vomiting and diarrhea with either subjective or objective complaint of fever. Visit diagnoses of “gastroparesis” were excluded only if there was a positive gastric emptying study at any time in the patient’s medical record (see Figure 1 for a summary of inclusion and exclusion criteria).



The most parsimonious explanation of this increased prevalence in an area with no other major socioeconomic or environmental changes is that increased marijuana use contributed to an increased rate of cyclic vomiting presentations. It should be noted, however, that despite a high rate of marijuana use in our community, the absolute prevalence of cyclic vomiting remained low, underscoring that CHS is a relatively uncommon condition.



Alternatively, the low rate of recidivism may indicate that the pathophysiology of CHS is similar to that of cyclic vomiting syndrome, which is defined by an absence of nausea and vomiting between episodes.13



This study does not demonstrate causation or definitive quantification of the exposure, but instead represents a preliminary association and should serve as the foundation for future prospective studies on the association between marijuana use and cyclic vomiting, the eventual establishment of formal diagnostic criteria for CHS, and study of various interventions for symptomatic treatment.




Conversely, our results may have overestimated the prevalence of cyclic vomiting in either period by including any visit with a diagnosis of cyclic vomiting by ICD-9 coding. Although it is possible that the prevalence of cyclic vomiting in the postliberalization period may reflect increasing awareness of CHS among ED providers over time, we feel that this is less likely given that the first known ED literature on this syndrome post-dates the conclusion of our study period.3,15 Although there were several case reports of CHS in non-ED literature prior to6,9,11 and during7 the preliberalization period, these reports prominently feature compulsive hot bathing as a key aspect of this syndrome.




probably should just read the paper.  its not that long, and nowhere near as ominous as the OP makes it seem.


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Re: Mysterious Marijuana-Related Illness Popping Up In Emergency Rooms [Re: ballsalsa]
    #23980106 - 01/03/17 09:50 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

This is come up a few times, I remember reading an article here about it.

Seems like bullshit to me but even if it is true, it can't be that prevalent can it? I know so many pot heads, some toking for 50+ years and no one has ever heard of this before


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Re: Mysterious Marijuana-Related Illness Popping Up In Emergency Rooms [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #23980118 - 01/03/17 09:55 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

the study claims 87 out of something like 122000 hospital visits


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Re: Mysterious Marijuana-Related Illness Popping Up In Emergency Rooms [Re: ballsalsa]
    #23980137 - 01/03/17 10:10 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

people that smoke too much and tobbacco smokers do this

they're drying out their airways and then they smoke pot and gorge themselves and throw up a little because the food doesnt make it all the way down

people nowadays get a fever and go to e.r.  t hey get a head ache and they start downing cough medicine  or popping tylenols

do they stop smoking
nooooo
weeds a psychadelic most psychadelics make you throw up a little
It doesn't happen when they're sober
smoke everyday for a few months and I bet this will happen to you if you try to throw up after eating lol


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Re: Mysterious Marijuana-Related Illness Popping Up In Emergency Rooms [Re: Konyap]
    #23980168 - 01/03/17 10:26 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

Is english your second language?

what are you trying to say?

and why are you saying it to me?


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Re: Mysterious Marijuana-Related Illness Popping Up In Emergency Rooms [Re: ballsalsa]
    #23980174 - 01/03/17 10:29 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

i'm saying that if you smoke enough you'll be kind of acidic in your stomach and you can throw up by burping and leaning over  like you're going to throw up after eating, because your food isn't in your stomach it's chewed up in your esophagus


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Re: Mysterious Marijuana-Related Illness Popping Up In Emergency Rooms [Re: Konyap]
    #23980268 - 01/03/17 11:14 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

Quote:

Konyap said:
i'm saying that if you smoke enough you'll be kind of acidic in your stomach and you can throw up by burping and leaning over  like you're going to throw up after eating, because your food isn't in your stomach it's chewed up in your esophagus.....










What?....


How does smoking cannabis make one's stomach acidic?....


Why is food sitting in the esophagus rather than the stomach? and what does cannabis have to do with that?







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....smoke everyday for a few months and I bet this will happen to you if you try to throw up after eating






Why would I try or want to throw up after eating?

I've been smoking daily for about a decade now, none of what you're talking about has happened to me (or anyone else I know that smokes daily)....I haven't ever heard of such before either.










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Re: Mysterious Marijuana-Related Illness Popping Up In Emergency Rooms [Re: openmind]
    #23980272 - 01/03/17 11:17 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

it happened to my friends step dad and he smoke tobbacco


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Re: Mysterious Marijuana-Related Illness Popping Up In Emergency Rooms [Re: Konyap]
    #23980475 - 01/04/17 02:03 AM (7 years, 26 days ago)

yeah?  well my sister's, boyfriend's, uncle's, cousin, said that you should fuck off.

don't shoot the messenger. :shrug:


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Re: Mysterious Marijuana-Related Illness Popping Up In Emergency Rooms [Re: ballsalsa]
    #23980695 - 01/04/17 07:21 AM (7 years, 26 days ago)

Most likely pesticides or communicable illness via joints ect. Grows aren't as heavily regulated in your country as it should be.

This article is written by anti-cannabis sources, no doubt. I'm 25 and been smoking since 12-13. Never had these symptoms.


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Re: Mysterious Marijuana-Related Illness Popping Up In Emergency Rooms [Re: Konyap]
    #23980697 - 01/04/17 07:22 AM (7 years, 26 days ago)

Quote:

Konyap said:
i'm saying that if you smoke enough you'll be kind of acidic in your stomach and you can throw up by burping and leaning over  like you're going to throw up after eating, because your food isn't in your stomach it's chewed up in your esophagus



Why do you even bother..


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Re: Mysterious Marijuana-Related Illness Popping Up In Emergency Rooms [Re: larry.fisherman] * 1
    #23982090 - 01/04/17 05:45 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

doctors don't know shit, they only trouble shoot. These people most likley had underlying physical ailments.

chs is basically "give up on diagnoses and call it this when they test positive for marijuana and come in throwing up"


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Re: Mysterious Marijuana-Related Illness Popping Up In Emergency Rooms [Re: Gravity]
    #23982212 - 01/04/17 06:39 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

Like they wouldn't have been using heavy before.


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Re: Mysterious Marijuana-Related Illness Popping Up In Emergency Rooms [Re: MikeTesserect] * 2
    #23982301 - 01/04/17 07:15 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

Lol the cure is a hot shower or bath.. that should tell you something..
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Re: Mysterious Marijuana-Related Illness Popping Up In Emergency Rooms [Re: ellomello]
    #23983071 - 01/05/17 04:05 AM (7 years, 25 days ago)

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Re: Mysterious Marijuana-Related Illness Popping Up In Emergency Rooms [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #23983091 - 01/05/17 04:19 AM (7 years, 25 days ago)

Supposedly this can lead to kidney damage in the worst case


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Re: Mysterious Marijuana-Related Illness Popping Up In Emergency Rooms [Re: California] * 1
    #23983175 - 01/05/17 06:30 AM (7 years, 25 days ago)

This is pure prohibitionist propaganda.  I can't believe Huffington Post would even acknowledge it.  It's a big juicy headline, with no substance, aimed to put doubt into people's minds about legalization.  These anti-pot news stories are designed to muddy the waters for people who don't see the big picture (the pros of legalization FAR outweigh whatever cons they can come up with). 

Makes me want to vomit!  :puke:













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Re: Mysterious Marijuana-Related Illness Popping Up In Emergency Rooms [Re: Learyfan] * 1
    #23983312 - 01/05/17 08:23 AM (7 years, 25 days ago)

Probably caused my chem fertilizers and pesticides. I'm not seeing this report coming from Oregon which has strict pesticide testing.


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