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InvisibleKingOftheThing
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I have a sinking feeling....
    #2397984 - 03/03/04 12:53 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

That president bush is going to be re-elected. I dont think the powers that be will not let kerry win. im betting on more election fraud. the cia, millitary love bush. i cant see him leaving office.


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Re: I have a sinking feeling.... [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #2397991 - 03/03/04 12:55 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Agreed.
Anyone wanna start betting on how many countries we take over from 2004 - 2008?


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Re: I have a sinking feeling.... [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #2397999 - 03/03/04 12:57 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I think it will be closer than you think. The people who voted for Gore will vote for Kerry because of their distain for Bush. I still think Bush will win but it will be pretty close. Who really cares? they're both different sides of the same coin.

oh, I forgot about Nader his whopping 4% (or whatever he got) he got last time will also be less than he or others are expecting. I'm guessing closer to 2%.


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Re: I have a sinking feeling.... [Re: Gijith]
    #2398004 - 03/03/04 12:58 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I say zero.


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Re: I have a sinking feeling.... [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2398011 - 03/03/04 01:01 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Innvertigo said:
I say zero.




dude bush is war crazy, i cant imagine the hell he is gonna raise.


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Re: I have a sinking feeling.... [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2398040 - 03/03/04 01:12 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I agree, zero


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Re: I have a sinking feeling.... [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #2398065 - 03/03/04 01:21 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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KingOftheThing said:
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Innvertigo said:
I say zero.




dude bush is war crazy, i cant imagine the hell he is gonna raise.





Seems to me that the only two nations that bush attacked were the same two that Clinton attacked, and for the same reasons. terrorism support and failure to comply with UN resolutions. Not too much clinton bashing going on for those attacks tho.....


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Re: I have a sinking feeling.... [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #2398077 - 03/03/04 01:24 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

he hasn't even taken over the countries that he's being accused of taking over. Iraq is not "Taken Over" neither is Afganastan. I don't think we plan on making them states anytime soon.


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Re: I have a sinking feeling.... [Re: TheOneYouKnow]
    #2398413 - 03/03/04 02:57 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Not too much clinton bashing going on for those attacks tho.....




Let it go. No one cares about Clinton.

As for KOTT's prediction, I don't agree. John Kerry will be the next President Of The United States Of America. Mark my words.




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Re: I have a sinking feeling.... [Re: Learyfan]
    #2398418 - 03/03/04 03:00 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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John Kerry will be the next President Of The United States Of America. Mark my words.




I wish we could make that bet. Bush will win, like it or not.


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Re: I have a sinking feeling.... [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2398487 - 03/03/04 03:19 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I'm not going to put my money where my mouth is, but I predict Kerry will be the next President. He's everything that Bush pretends to be.




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Re: I have a sinking feeling.... [Re: Learyfan]
    #2398524 - 03/03/04 03:32 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I'm going to make a bold and very un-scientific estimation of the results.

Bush 55%
Kerry 43%
Nader 2%

I'll bet you 1 million cyber dollars anyhow.


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Re: I have a sinking feeling.... [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #2398535 - 03/03/04 03:36 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Four more wars! Four more wars! Four more wars! Four more wars!


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Re: I have a sinking feeling.... [Re: silversoul7]
    #2398617 - 03/03/04 03:54 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I'm hoping Kerry can beat Bush. Not that I like Kerry, I don't (he leans towards communism while Bush leans towards fascism) but I think that our freedoms are more secure when we have opposing parties in the legislative vs. the executive branches. Republicans have amply demonstrated that they have no principles once they have acheived positions of unchecked power (and I would expect the same from the Democrats).


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Re: I have a sinking feeling.... [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2399430 - 03/03/04 06:14 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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I say zero.




Nader will win, huge summer rallies around nader are in the plan. i'm counting on kerry to show his true colors in the next 8 months and no longer be considered a canidate, many dem votes will go to nader. And bush is going to have 8 months to be even more hated by the masses. And a few reps who want him out will go nader just to get him out. I never would think nader would have a chance, but against those clowns kerry and bush there is a good chance.

here is an interesting link http://keepandbeararms.com/polls/pollmentorres.asp


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Re: I have a sinking feeling.... [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #2399547 - 03/03/04 06:47 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Lets call Diebold, and ask who their machines will vote for... :grin:


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Re: I have a sinking feeling.... [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #2399583 - 03/03/04 06:56 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I don't know...I've spoken with and heard on the news of LOTS of Republicans who are getting rather disaffected with Bush, in addition to other folks. Honestly, I think Kerry has a good chance of winning!


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Re: I have a sinking feeling.... [Re: mabus]
    #2399604 - 03/03/04 07:01 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Nader will win



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Re: I have a sinking feeling.... [Re: silversoul7]
    #2399678 - 03/03/04 07:22 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Would you like to go on having only two choices for presedent????? :confused:

Anyway I dont think Nader will win either (would love to see it!) but I'm sick of this "nader is a spoiler" SHIT.

Nader and the people that follow when he is gone WILL(I hope) win with a 3 thrid party one day, and bring some "actual" democracy to america.

Nader is a better person, and would make a better leader then all of those corporate WHOREs he's up against.


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Re: I have a sinking feeling.... [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #2399765 - 03/03/04 07:44 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Would you like to go on having only two choices for presedent?????



First of all, please learn to use the spell-checker before attempting to spell president. Secondly, no I would not, but speaking in purely practical terms, that's what we've got, and voting for Nader won't change that. Only massive reform of our political structure can undo the two-party system.

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Anyway I dont think Nader will win either (would love to see it!) but I'm sick of this "nader is a spoiler" SHIT.



1. If Ralph Nader is a left-leaning candidate, are the people who vote for him more likely to be (a)liberal, or (b)conservative?

2. Is John Kerry (a)more liberal than Bush, or (b)less liberal than Bush?

3. If Ralph Nader did not run, would the people who would've voted for him be more likely to vote for (a)John Kerry, or (b)Bush?

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Nader and the people that follow when he is gone WILL(I hope) win with a 3 thrid party one day, and bring some "actual" democracy to america.



There has never been a third-party president, nor will there ever be so long as the current political structure remains in place. For those who would say that Abraham Lincoln was a third-party candidate, you are wrong. By that point, the Whig party was more or less gone, and the Republicans were merely filling the power vacuum left by them. As for "actual" democracy, America has never been a democracy, and may God forbid it from ever becoming one.

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Nader is a better person, and would make a better leader then all of those corporate WHOREs he's up against.



I agree, but his platform is way too radical for the vast majority of Americans to accept.


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