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Are Liberty Caps Evil?
    #23978574 - 01/03/17 11:36 AM (7 years, 27 days ago)

Ok so every trip I have had on these nasty little fuckers have been brilliant, but there's always something off about them. When ever I peak (especially by myself or when I not listening to music) I can always hear this disturbing low, kinda of, "moaning" ambience, may it be the boiler under the stairs, or the ac turning on. This terrifying sound is always accompanied with a faint buzzing sound and what I can only describe as dark whispers, when I hear these whispers its like there coming from out side of my window, from under the floor (I don't even have a basement), upstairs and all around me there always there, its like I'm being haunted by little fungi demons.

I was listening to some more of good ol' Terence talking about how certain environments can alter the mushroom "magic" and how they can effect you psychologically, that would make a lot of sense since I did a test with 3 different species; Cubensis's, Azurescens's and Semilanceata's. The cubes I grew myself in a lush contamination free environment where they thrived, I also grew my azur's in my green house, where they got constant humidity and darkness.

But the semila's, I got them at night, where they grew in shit covered dead grass by dark, open forests.

The only bad trip I have had of them is when I was by myself, new years eve, It was 5 in the morning and I was sat there huddle up in a blanket on the sofa, it was dark, the heating was off, I was cold, so cold, I couldn't see anything, just flashing images of terrifying demon like faces, they would not go away . . . The next morning I was so scared I didn't even leave my bed, I just stayed under the cover and listened to some light happy music.

I was wondering if any else had these terrifying incidents with just this species of mushroom . . . :uhoh:

Also a bonus, I found some music which almost mirrors what I can hear when I'm on one of these trips:


Demonic "Moan" Soundtrack






Happy New Year also! :cheers:


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Re: Are Liberty Caps Evil? [Re: acidninja]
    #23978666 - 01/03/17 12:12 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

Evil is a man made notion, so I'm goning to say no. But it seems like a good amount of shroomers here say that the 'evil' imagery your seeing is your brain assosciating your 'ego' with some kind of mental imagery.

Also if it's not to much to ask I would LOVE to hear, and maybe see, how you managed to cultivate those azuressence


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Re: Are Liberty Caps Evil? [Re: concretelush]
    #23978733 - 01/03/17 12:44 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

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Evil is a man made notion, so I'm goning to say no. But it seems like a good amount of shroomers here say that the 'evil' imagery your seeing is your brain assosciating your 'ego' with some kind of mental imagery.

Also if it's not to much to ask I would LOVE to hear, and maybe see, how you managed to cultivate those azuressence




:takingnotes: hhm

Also, ill make a cultivation blog on my azurs when there in fruit, if im lucky they might fruit this spring, if it stays cold, in that case I can get some pics :awesomenod:


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Re: Are Liberty Caps Evil? [Re: acidninja]
    #23978977 - 01/03/17 02:16 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

Picking semilas at night covered in shit in a forest?

Sorry but I have to see that, never found semilas in forests and would doubt i could see them at night regardless?

Are you sure they are what you think they are?

Im up north too by the way


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Re: Are Liberty Caps Evil? [Re: acidninja]
    #23978981 - 01/03/17 02:19 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

That would be sweet!  I've always wanted to give azuressence a whirl but I'm not in the pnw, and was under the impression that they were finiky bastards to cultivate. But if you can do it across the pond I'd be a fool not to at least try. Fingers crossed for a cold spring can't wait to check it out.


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Re: Are Liberty Caps Evil? [Re: wellniceglasses]
    #23979005 - 01/03/17 02:28 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

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Picking semilas at night covered in shit in a forest?

Sorry but I have to see that, never found semilas in forests and would doubt i could see them at night regardless?

Are you sure they are what you think they are?

Im up north too by the way




SSHHH, I making the story interesting - "shit covered dead grass ""by"" dark, open forests."

Also, i obviously had a torch :lmafo: :youseethisshit:

Up North, ive heard they got some "gud shit" up there :rockon:


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Re: Are Liberty Caps Evil? [Re: concretelush]
    #23979015 - 01/03/17 02:31 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

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That would be sweet!  I've always wanted to give azuressence a whirl but I'm not in the pnw, and was under the impression that they were finiky bastards to cultivate. But if you can do it across the pond I'd be a fool not to at least try. Fingers crossed for a cold spring can't wait to check it out.




Well main keys points are, there a cunt to grow in the UK dew to the dramatic weather changes all the time and there a slow colonizer, but once you have a jar of full cole'd rye and a bed of wood chip, you can just sprinkle that shit on and watch em babies grow :awesomenod::thumbup:


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Re: Are Liberty Caps Evil? [Re: acidninja]
    #23979024 - 01/03/17 02:35 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

Sounds like you were tripping.:lol:

I would always hear "space" noises when I tripped, like 1950-60's sci-fi noises, it's fun to be alone in the woods when it's pitch black out tripping by yourself, or shut yourself in a closet in a darkroom when you're peaking, good times.

I don't think any substance is evil, how some people use them is what makes them appear in a negative light.


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Re: Are Liberty Caps Evil? [Re: concretelush]
    #23979103 - 01/03/17 03:11 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

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That would be sweet!  I've always wanted to give azuressence a whirl but I'm not in the pnw, and was under the impression that they were finiky bastards to cultivate. But if you can do it across the pond I'd be a fool not to at least try. Fingers crossed for a cold spring can't wait to check it out.




Well main keys points are, there a cunt to grow in the UK dew to the dramatic weather changes all the time and there a slow colonizer, but once you have a jar of full cole'd rye and a bed of wood chip, you can just sprinkle that shit on and watch em babies grow :awesomenod::thumbup:

Main key points are, always get a print and make a clean culture with azurescens, always use rye and  You can do grain -> sterile sawdust -> wood chips, or grain directly to wood chips. The bed needs to fully colonized–or nearly so–before it will fruit an Keep it moist! Choose a location that either stays moist during the summer, or that you can water regularly.


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Re: Are Liberty Caps Evil? [Re: acidninja]
    #23979114 - 01/03/17 03:15 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)



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Re: Are Liberty Caps Evil? [Re: acidninja]
    #23979165 - 01/03/17 03:36 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

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Are Liberty Caps Evil?




Fuck no.  :thataintright:


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Re: Are Liberty Caps Evil? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #23979211 - 01/03/17 03:54 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

They weren't semis, but my worst trip was from several P. subaeruginosa I had found growing directly from a woodchipped grave in a cemetery.
I'm not superstitious, so I don't think the environment made a difference, but those little bastards sent me straight to hell.


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Re: Are Liberty Caps Evil? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #23979329 - 01/03/17 04:42 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

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Are Liberty Caps Evil?




Fuck no.  :thataintright:




Maybe its just me, on mild doses I feel great, but on high doses, its like mushroom gods are rejecting me and giving me a bad time


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Re: Are Liberty Caps Evil? [Re: acidninja]
    #23979589 - 01/03/17 06:10 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

It's just you.  Libs are amazing in high doses IME.


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Re: Are Liberty Caps Evil? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #23979688 - 01/03/17 07:06 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

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It's just you.  Libs are amazing in high doses IME.




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Re: Are Liberty Caps Evil? [Re: concretelush]
    #23979720 - 01/03/17 07:18 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

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Evil is a man made notion, so I'm goning to say no.




It's a man experiencing the trip though...


And OP I have personally heard people say before that liberty caps felt "darker" than cubensis.


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Re: Are Liberty Caps Evil? [Re: AuroraBorealis88] * 1
    #23979750 - 01/03/17 07:29 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

Liberty caps will take you places that most cubes (PE excepted) can only hint at.  But PEs are much like woodlovers IME.


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Re: Are Liberty Caps Evil? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #23980001 - 01/03/17 08:52 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

Subs have a pretty dark vibe for me, yet they've also given me my best trips. Heard others say the same, can't speak for Libs, though.


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Re: Are Liberty Caps Evil? [Re: acidninja]
    #23980018 - 01/03/17 09:01 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

No they are not. Cmon op you know better


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Re: Are Liberty Caps Evil? [Re: concretelush]
    #23980276 - 01/03/17 11:22 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

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Evil is a man made notion




'Evil' is a man made term used to describe a very real, detrimental 'force' or state of being.

Even argued as a product of the ego, it still manifests effects.

It's the same principle (though opposed) as love which manifests its own effects in the material world.


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Re: Are Liberty Caps Evil? [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #23980796 - 01/04/17 08:44 AM (7 years, 26 days ago)

I dont know, I cant explain it, its like they have some sort of dark and powerful vibe on me, idk, maybe it is just me ego, im yet to experience death . . .


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Re: Are Liberty Caps Evil? [Re: acidninja]
    #23981256 - 01/04/17 12:14 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

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I dont know, I cant explain it, its like they have some sort of dark and powerful vibe on me, idk, maybe it is just me ego, im yet to experience death . . .




The mushrooms are the door.

The cause is what's behind the door when you open it.

Spiritual folk will tell you it's the manifest of bad spirits and those more psychologically entrenched, will tell you it's the destructive ego. 

Between those two beliefs is the mutual theory that bad spirits simply work through the destructive ego in an effort to manipulate via a resource which is readily available.


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Re: Are Liberty Caps Evil? [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #23981261 - 01/04/17 12:16 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

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Evil is a man made notion




'Evil' is a man made term used to describe a very real, detrimental 'force' or state of being.

Even argued as a product of the ego, it still manifests effects.

It's the same principle (though opposed) as love which manifests its own effects in the material world.




That's like saying "psychedelic" is a manmade term therefore mushrooms aren't psychedelic :lol:


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Re: Are Liberty Caps Evil? [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #23981432 - 01/04/17 01:14 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

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I dont know, I cant explain it, its like they have some sort of dark and powerful vibe on me, idk, maybe it is just me ego, im yet to experience death . . .




The mushrooms are the door.

The cause is what's behind the door when you open it.

Spiritual folk will tell you it's the manifest of bad spirits and those more psychologically entrenched, will tell you it's the destructive ego. 

Between those two beliefs is the mutual theory that bad spirits simply work through the destructive ego in an effort to manipulate via a resource which is readily available.




Holy shit

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