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Invisiblecarbonhoots
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Re: The Media's Liberal-Leaning Double Standard [Re: TheOneYouKnow]
    #2398030 - 03/03/04 11:08 AM (20 years, 30 days ago)

What's racist here?

Cuz Brown said whites and hispanics all look alike to her?

Well, whites and hispanics are two different races so if they 'look the same' doesn't that mean they are equal in her sight? It could be interpreted in a non-racist way.


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Invisibleblacksabbathrulz
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Re: The Media's Liberal-Leaning Double Standard [Re: Floyd_]
    #2398033 - 03/03/04 11:08 AM (20 years, 30 days ago)

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Floyd_ said:


if you have a good grasp on history, science, acedemics in general you can't help but be liberal.....if your a bible thumping, slack jawed white supremecist, your probably a neo-conservie

haha



That is the stupidiest thing I have ever heard. Hmm I know several people who have a superior grasp on all of those topics who are very conservative, far more conservative than most conservatives too. Grow up douche bag.


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Invisiblecarbonhoots
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Re: The Media's Liberal-Leaning Double Standard [Re: Floyd_]
    #2398037 - 03/03/04 11:10 AM (20 years, 30 days ago)

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do you ever wonder why the majority of professors are democrats and the neo-conservies bash universities for being "liberal"?

if you have a good grasp on history, science, acedemics in general you can't help but be liberal.....




No shit.

ps...some christians are liberal too.


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OfflineTheOneYouKnow
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Re: The Media's Liberal-Leaning Double Standard [Re: carbonhoots]
    #2398044 - 03/03/04 11:13 AM (20 years, 30 days ago)

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carbonhoots said:
What's racist here?

Cuz Brown said whites and hispanics all look alike to her?

Well, whites and hispanics are two different races so if they 'look the same' doesn't that mean they are equal in her sight? It could be interpreted in a non-racist way.




I'm not saying that she is a racist. I'm saying that she made comments that are racist, and that noone made any deal of it what so ever, minus a tidbit from fox news. When Lott did it, holy jesus,you'd haev thought he was trying to clone Hitler for our next president.

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Re: The Media's Liberal-Leaning Double Standard [Re: blacksabbathrulz]
    #2398045 - 03/03/04 11:13 AM (20 years, 30 days ago)

I'm gonna agree with Sabbath here. Being filthy rich can quickly turn you conservative, even if you're educated.

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Re: The Media's Liberal-Leaning Double Standard [Re: TheOneYouKnow]
    #2398108 - 03/03/04 11:33 AM (20 years, 30 days ago)

The real issue here is this: Why isn't the US government trying to help a democratically elected president who has been overthrown by violent rebels, led by a man who claims Pinochet is his idol? Are the allegations that the US pressured Aristide to flee true?

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Re: The Media's Liberal-Leaning Double Standard [Re: Phluck]
    #2398125 - 03/03/04 11:37 AM (20 years, 30 days ago)

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Phluck said:
The real issue here is this: Why isn't the US government trying to help a democratically elected president who has been overthrown by violent rebels, led by a man who claims Pinochet is his idol? Are the allegations that the US pressured Aristide to flee true?




No, that is in fact not the issue at all. My purpose in starting the thread was to show that their is a very obvious double standard in the media, exacerbating and exaggerating comments made by white people, and downplaying comments that are, in truth, more offensive that are made by minorities. Their are already threads about Haiti, this is nto one of those. Addressing the issue of haiti would be like addressing Thurmond's capability as a leader, noone did that. they addressed the comments MADE ABOUT Him.

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Re: The Media's Liberal-Leaning Double Standard [Re: TheOneYouKnow]
    #2398140 - 03/03/04 11:42 AM (20 years, 30 days ago)

There is a bias, but not in the media.
It's just that more people are more violently offended by anti-black racism than anti-white, due to a long history of oppression of black people.

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Invisibleafoaf
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Re: The Media's Liberal-Leaning Double Standard [Re: TheOneYouKnow]
    #2398158 - 03/03/04 11:47 AM (20 years, 30 days ago)

are you still trying to preach to us about double
standards, especially in relation to race issues?

maybe you should let this thread die like you do
all the others where your logic is proven faulty and
your blatant ignorance and inate racisms are shown
for what they are.

read the quote, she didn't say that she honored and
respected a known abolitionist (and adulterer with
a biracial child) or thought hitler had a great political
platform

read this section:

she said Hispanics and whites "all look alike to me."

Brown made the statement during a Wednesday briefing
on Haiti with Assistant Secretary of State Roger Noriega,
a Mexican-American, and the Florida congressional delegation.
During the meeting, attended by about 30 people, Brown
sat across the table from Noriega and launched an attack
on President Bush's policy on Haiti.

She said Republican leaders were "racist" in their policies
toward the Caribbean nation, which is almost entirely black,
and called the president's representatives "a bunch of white
men."

"I sincerely did not mean to offend Secretary Noriega or
anyone in the room. Rather, my comments, as they relate
to 'white men,' were aimed at the policies of the Bush
administration as they pertain to Haiti, which I do consider
to be racist," Brown said in a statement on Thursday.

Brown added that she was offended that the meeting on
the crisis in Haiti, led by administration officials, "turned
into a diatribe rebuking the Haitian government and the
Haitian people. I was personally insulted by the anti-Haiti
sentiment brought to the table by the State Department
and by Republican members of Congress in attendance,"
she said.

they don't even supply the damn context for the quote.

even if it were the worst case scenario, that does not
sound like racism, that sounds like an angry Rep that
is voicing her opinion on how the administration is handling
the crisis.

don't you have anything else to harp on?

at least luvdem cites valid and respectable examples to
prove his liberal media conspiracy theory.


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OfflineTheOneYouKnow
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Re: The Media's Liberal-Leaning Double Standard [Re: phi1618]
    #2398179 - 03/03/04 11:53 AM (20 years, 30 days ago)

Quote:

phi1618 said:
There is a bias, but not in the media.
It's just that more people are more violently offended by anti-black racism than anti-white, due to a long history of oppression of black people.




*cough* Whites were held slaves longer in Rome than negros were in America. Negros are STILL held as slaves by other negros in africa. Geez, read a friggin book.

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Offlinephi1618
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Re: The Media's Liberal-Leaning Double Standard [Re: TheOneYouKnow]
    #2398189 - 03/03/04 11:55 AM (20 years, 30 days ago)

That's true, but irrelavent.
People care about racism in america because of slavery and Jim Crow, not because of what happens in Africa or ancient Rome.

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OfflineTheOneYouKnow
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Re: The Media's Liberal-Leaning Double Standard [Re: phi1618]
    #2398194 - 03/03/04 11:57 AM (20 years, 30 days ago)

Quote:

phi1618 said:
There is a bias, but not in the media.
It's just that more people are more violently offended by anti-black racism than anti-white, due to a long history of oppression of black people.




So, uh, that would be a double standard, right? isn't that what I said?

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Re: The Media's Liberal-Leaning Double Standard [Re: TheOneYouKnow]
    #2398205 - 03/03/04 12:01 PM (20 years, 30 days ago)

You said it exists in the media only, I claim that in this case the media coverage is merely a reflection of a double-standard that exists in society and politics.

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OfflineTao
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Re: The Media's Liberal-Leaning Double Standard [Re: TheOneYouKnow]
    #2398245 - 03/03/04 12:15 PM (20 years, 30 days ago)

I agree that there is a bias in people in general against racism that is anti-minority than racism that is anti-majority. I think few people would disagree with this fact nor would many disagree that this is such a big deal. In our country's history (notice *our* country since we're discussing *our* politics) there has been a long history of racism towards minorities causing irreparable harm. This 'point' of yours is hardly groundbreaking.

Where your logic fails is comparing this to trent lott. the reason trent lott's statement was a problem was not because of what he said exactly, but the idea that it represents. He implied that he agreed that the country would be a lot better off if we employed segregationist policies. Since so many people, including republicans, find this idea abhorrent, there was the huge reaction that you observed.

but your observation that john kerry couldnt say this same statement replacing 'blacks' with 'whites and hispanics'. this observation again, is hardly groundbreaking. and more importantly: WHO CARES?!?


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Re: The Media's Liberal-Leaning Double Standard [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2398450 - 03/03/04 01:09 PM (20 years, 30 days ago)

Why is he a racist?

You mean apart from the multiple warnings his other puppets have had for racism?

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Re: The Media's Liberal-Leaning Double Standard [Re: carbonhoots]
    #2398466 - 03/03/04 01:14 PM (20 years, 30 days ago)

Quote:

carbonhoots said:
What's racist here?

Cuz Brown said whites and hispanics all look alike to her?

Well, whites and hispanics are two different races so if they 'look the same' doesn't that mean they are equal in her sight? It could be interpreted in a non-racist way.




That's exactly how I interpreted that statement carbon. That's the opposite of racism.






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Re: The Media's Liberal-Leaning Double Standard [Re: Tao]
    #2398501 - 03/03/04 01:23 PM (20 years, 30 days ago)

i just wanted to say that hispanic isnt a race. 48% of hispanics in the united states are white, actually. and, what she said was "all you look the same" which could easily have been referring to those in the room, not the entire hispanic population of the united states.

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Re: The Media's Liberal-Leaning Double Standard [Re: ]
    #2398507 - 03/03/04 01:25 PM (20 years, 30 days ago)

eh?


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Re: The Media's Liberal-Leaning Double Standard [Re: phi1618]
    #2398518 - 03/03/04 01:28 PM (20 years, 30 days ago)

Quote:

phi1618 said:
You said it exists in the media only, I claim that in this case the media coverage is merely a reflection of a double-standard that exists in society and politics.




Show me where I said that the bias exists in the media only, or just post and apoligize for putting words in my mouth.

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Re: The Media's Liberal-Leaning Double Standard [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2398557 - 03/03/04 01:40 PM (20 years, 30 days ago)

European emmigrants to latin american countries are still white. our view tends to be that of "oh, theyre mexican//cuban//whatever" but they are techinicly white, and in there own countries they are viewed as being so.
http://www.census.gov/prod/2001pubs/c2kbr01-1.pdf#page=10

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