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Question for all parents out there..... * 2
    #23977880 - 01/03/17 02:19 AM (7 years, 27 days ago)

Anyone can answer, but I'd like to hear form actual parents, especially mothers.

We are told that we are omnivores.

If schools decided to start showing kids where our current food sources come from by taking kids on field trips to crop fields, orchards and gardens to show them the plant foods.....

....and then field trips to the livestock fields and slaughterhouses to show them where our meat sources come from....

Would you have a problem with either one? 
Which one specifically and why?
And at what age would it be ok, if you feel it is ok?

Also, would you let them partake in both the picking of the fruit and the slaughter of an animal while on the field trip, or just allow them to watch?  Why or why not?

This should be interesting.....


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Re: Question for all parents out there..... [Re: wakeINpeople]
    #23977886 - 01/03/17 02:26 AM (7 years, 27 days ago)

I'm pretty sure I actually went on field trips to all of those places in elementary school.
We did not participate in the slaughter of any animals though, for obvious reasons.


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Re: Question for all parents out there..... [Re: TopPmz]
    #23977889 - 01/03/17 02:27 AM (7 years, 27 days ago)

What are the obvious reasons if you don't mind me asking?


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Re: Question for all parents out there..... [Re: wakeINpeople]
    #23977890 - 01/03/17 02:27 AM (7 years, 27 days ago)

You shouldn't have a child under 13 slaughter an animal for a huge number of reasons. It's irresponsible and dangerous and potentially detrimental to the childs emotional well-being.


I think they should know where our food comes from and how it's made though.


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Re: Question for all parents out there..... [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23977892 - 01/03/17 02:29 AM (7 years, 27 days ago)

Why would it be detrimental to their being specifically?


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Re: Question for all parents out there..... [Re: wakeINpeople] * 2
    #23977893 - 01/03/17 02:29 AM (7 years, 27 days ago)

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wakeINpeople said:
What are the obvious reasons if you don't mind me asking?




Have you ever even been around children? they could very easily get physically hurt.


Or be emotionally traumatized. Or worse, think it's fun.


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Re: Question for all parents out there..... [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23977897 - 01/03/17 02:31 AM (7 years, 27 days ago)

But no animals in nature show emotional scarring or issues when they catch and eat their prey, why would we?


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Re: Question for all parents out there..... [Re: wakeINpeople]
    #23977899 - 01/03/17 02:34 AM (7 years, 27 days ago)

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wakeINpeople said:
Why would it be detrimental to their being specifically?




I understand there have and always will be farm kids that grow up around pigs and chickens getting slaughtered. That's totally different from taking school kids, from any number of living situations and backgrounds, to a farm factory to help slaughter animals.
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But no animals in nature show emotional scarring or issues when they catch and eat their prey, why would we?




Because we don't normally grow up with it. Baby lions and bears and wolves grow up around their mothers slaughtering prey. Their mothers normally start teaching them to kill before they're even a year old. People are not raised like animals.


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Re: Question for all parents out there..... [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23977903 - 01/03/17 02:36 AM (7 years, 27 days ago)

Plus public schools do such a shit job at education I wouldn't expect them to instill within a child the proper respect for life and an understanding of the necessity of environmental balance.


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Re: Question for all parents out there..... [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23977909 - 01/03/17 02:41 AM (7 years, 27 days ago)

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wakeINpeople said:
Why would it be detrimental to their being specifically?




I understand there have and always will be farm kids that grow up around pigs and chickens getting slaughtered. That's totally different from taking school kids, from any number of living situations and backgrounds, to a farm factory to help slaughter animals.
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wakeINpeople said:
But no animals in nature show emotional scarring or issues when they catch and eat their prey, why would we?




Because we don't normally grow up with it. Baby lions and bears and wolves grow up around their mothers slaughtering prey. Their mothers normally start teaching them to kill before they're even a year old. People are not raised like animals.




So you're saying 13....

I appreciate your input, thanks!!  I'm doing a little test to see what peoples answers will be. 

Do you think we are living like we should, and are in balance with nature?


Edited by wakeINpeople (01/03/17 02:42 AM)


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Re: Question for all parents out there..... [Re: wakeINpeople]
    #23977913 - 01/03/17 02:47 AM (7 years, 27 days ago)

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What are the obvious reasons if you don't mind me asking?




It was an elementary school field trip. It was only for educational purposes. We weren't there to learn a skill, just to learn how our food gets to us.


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Re: Question for all parents out there..... [Re: wakeINpeople]
    #23978381 - 01/03/17 10:28 AM (7 years, 27 days ago)

Quote:

wakeINpeople said:
....and then field trips to the livestock fields and slaughterhouses to show them where our meat sources come from....

Would you have a problem with either one? 





I wouldnt have an issue with it, my daughter has taken part in butchering a deer and cows, it didnt bother her


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Re: Question for all parents out there..... [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23978399 - 01/03/17 10:33 AM (7 years, 27 days ago)

OP I see you


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Re: Question for all parents out there..... [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23978406 - 01/03/17 10:36 AM (7 years, 27 days ago)

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CookieCrumbs said:
Quote:

wakeINpeople said:
What are the obvious reasons if you don't mind me asking?




Have you ever even been around children? they could very easily get physically hurt.


Or be emotionally traumatized. Or worse, think it's fun.





kids get hurt when they're out having fun. my daughter broke her arm while riding a
bike, my son broke his collarbone while playing tag. should we stop children from
playing because they could get hurt? should we stop them from going to school
because they could be emotionally traumatized by a bully?

maybe we should allow children to have actual life experiences


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Re: Question for all parents out there..... [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23978413 - 01/03/17 10:41 AM (7 years, 27 days ago)

You're right, we should let 6 yr olds handle heavy machinery and murder pets.


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Re: Question for all parents out there..... [Re: wakeINpeople]
    #23978513 - 01/03/17 11:16 AM (7 years, 27 days ago)

I think they should at least see a video, if you're going to enjoy the fruits of bloodshed you should be aware of it, its natural and historically normal. If anything is weird its not being exposed to these things at a young age.


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Re: Question for all parents out there..... [Re: Repertoire89] * 1
    #23978590 - 01/03/17 11:41 AM (7 years, 27 days ago)

I'm vegan because I feel like it's unnatural to murder animals in cold blood for my sustained existence when I've been doing just fine eating only plants and supplements for years now.

If anything, we should start teaching children that meat comes from slaughtered animals at a young age so we can try to phase out animal consumption, which has been proven to be a massively unsustainable practice.

It makes so much more sense to grow plants and eat the plants than to grow plants, feed them to animals, and then eat the animals.

There's no such thing as world hunger, if all the space used for growing plant based food for livestock were used for growing plant based food for humans, not a single person would still be starving on this planet.

:shrug:

Go vegan, if not for yourself, if not for the animals, then for the sustained existence of our planet.


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Re: Question for all parents out there..... [Re: WeAreMushroom]
    #23978605 - 01/03/17 11:48 AM (7 years, 27 days ago)

Inb4 NO WE NEED MEAT U NOT HEALTHY U DIE


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Re: Question for all parents out there..... [Re: CookieCrumbs] * 2
    #23978650 - 01/03/17 12:05 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

I watched my grandma pick up chickens by their heads and swing them around over her head with a fast snapping motion in order to break their necks. It is one of my earliest memories.

My fifth grade teacher brought an elk he hunted in CO to school. He had a back room that had tile and a drain to his classroom. And he butchered it and stuff there, and allowed a few of us boys and a girl to watch and learn. He knew these kids parents and I'm sure cleared it with them.

I remember going with a friend to a girl's house that he liked when I was maybe 11-12. She lived on a farm. And we watched her dad and brothers slaughter a sheep. Held its head tight and slit it's throat. After wards they stuck hooks through its hands and hung it up. Then sliced it open and all the guts dropped to the floor.

I plan on exposing my children to the same kind of thing when I have some. It's good for you to see these things first hand at a young age.

I almost feel like people who grow up with out seeing this stuff are in for a shock when they see it as an adult. Most people probably just think meat comes from a package until they see an animal get slaughtered.

From a very very young age, I've had a huge respect for animals and the meat I eat. I know that chicken or BBQ I'm eating used to be alive. I know that one day I will be some food for other organisms. It's the circle of life.

Also my parents have always had a vegetable garden even when living in an apartment with just a patio. So I also respect the fruits and vegetables, because I know how long they took to grow just for our tastebuds.


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Re: Question for all parents out there..... [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23978659 - 01/03/17 12:09 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

I wouldn't want my kids taking part in a slaughterhouse butchering (I don't like slaughterhouses; they're inhumane and unnatural), but if I were so lucky to have them grow up on a farm like I did, you can be sure they'd be butchering chickens and pigs like we did.

As for comparing human young to lion cubs, let's keep in mind that a lion cub will grow up to continue murdering it's own food. Humans typically do nothing of the sort unless they hunt, which is an arguable small percentage of the population.


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