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Mescaline analogues?
#23974785 - 01/02/17 01:23 AM (7 years, 28 days ago) |
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Anyone have any experience with escaline, proscaline, methyl-mescaline?
RC methoxyphenylethylamines basically.
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Re: Mescaline analogues? [Re: czech]
#23975361 - 01/02/17 08:36 AM (7 years, 28 days ago) |
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I know mike4aco had extensive research regarding those chemicals
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Will reply while im cooking my cactus tonight. Thanks syzergisticsoul for the awesome Xmas gifts! Currently driving home (passenger while typing this)
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Re: Mescaline analogues? [Re: Mike4aco]
#23975373 - 01/02/17 08:40 AM (7 years, 28 days ago) |
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so? don't leave me hangin man
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Re: Mescaline analogues? [Re: czech]
#23975399 - 01/02/17 08:52 AM (7 years, 28 days ago) |
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Ok once I ate 70 mg of proscaline. I had a very strong visual trip melting furniture sporadic patterns. Really weird nausea. Like I was being spun around and around and.... While sitting still. Strange mindset not quite fluid but definitely changes in thoughts.
Once I dosed 65 mg escaline I had light colors mainly pastels and live looking figures like flowers or gnomes. The visuals were subdued like I was watching through a slight film. Not as much nausea not as much visuals (note I did not say melting of anything, very little visual changes but lots of cev that were colorful and lively)
Also you didn't mention it but allylescaline is my favorite a mere 35 to 40 mg (comparatively) was stronger for me than the others.
I feel escaline is easier on the body more colorful less visual and proscaline harder body load and more visuals not as much color. You would want to research your dose size for what you want to achieve
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Re: Mescaline analogues? [Re: Mike4aco]
#23975419 - 01/02/17 09:02 AM (7 years, 28 days ago) |
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Mike, do you think actual mescaline is better then any of the analogues? I have had mescaline but none of the analogues
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Re: Mescaline analogues? [Re: Mike4aco]
#23975420 - 01/02/17 09:03 AM (7 years, 28 days ago) |
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really? I will look into allylescaline, my main concern with these phenylethylamines is that they are expensive, you get 10 or so trips per 110$ gram, but 4-aco-dmt is so much cheaper and it goes way further.
thanks man preciate the 'search
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Re: Mescaline analogues? [Re: Mike4aco]
#23975422 - 01/02/17 09:04 AM (7 years, 28 days ago) |
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Would mixing pose any dangers? Sounds like a combo of escaline and proscaline would make for a very interestung/positive trip.
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Yes absolutely. I will have a much better response later as im taking a good dose of bridgesii tonight my only mescaline exp was 40 inches of pc
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this idea intrigues me
body + mind? yin and yang
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SonicTitan said: Would mixing pose any dangers? Sounds like a combo of escaline and proscaline would make for a very interestung/positive trip.
I would dose 1 next trip dose the 2nd. Then decide if the negatives (any nausea cramps vaso etc) outweigh the positive. Then if you decide you want to try it research your dose you want to try and make sure that other trip reports of that dose are what you want to be tripping at, and remember combining could potentate so start small (that x+y dose does not = x+y all the time)
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it'd also do better to mimic the organic nature of the cactus, there's a lot more alkaloids in there than just mescaline, i'm sure a few stimulant phen groups in there.
I remember reading about fractional distillation of a peyote extract, the guy was pretty adamant about his results.
https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=4036
something like that
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