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Do these cakes have a fighting chance?
    #23974088 - 01/01/17 08:04 PM (7 years, 29 days ago)

Hello All,

Once again I call upon this great community for hope and answers. I had these grain cakes in since the middle of November and I'm just trying to see if there's any hope with these. If not it's ok, we all know I failed a few times before due to contamination and not pressure cooking for over an hour but now I have a flow good and I've cleaned up my methods. Just want to see if these cakes from my flawed method have a shot.

Happy new year



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Re: Do these cakes have a fighting chance? [Re: Shadow of magus]
    #23974093 - 01/01/17 08:07 PM (7 years, 29 days ago)

Doesn't look good. 

This has nothing to do with the way your cakes look but you could use more holes in your SGFC.  Are there holes on all six sides?


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Re: Do these cakes have a fighting chance? [Re: Shadow of magus]
    #23974096 - 01/01/17 08:07 PM (7 years, 29 days ago)

Ah, they don't look so good to me :frown:.
I'd wait for a more reputable person's opinion though.


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Re: Do these cakes have a fighting chance? [Re: maxpassin]
    #23974098 - 01/01/17 08:10 PM (7 years, 29 days ago)

Yes, Holes on all six sides


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Re: Do these cakes have a fighting chance? [Re: Shadow of magus]
    #23974106 - 01/01/17 08:13 PM (7 years, 29 days ago)

I'll spray and fan every 6 hours and I'm waiting for my 100 watt CFL bulbs to come on for a twelve on twelve off cycle


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Re: Do these cakes have a fighting chance? [Re: maxpassin]
    #23974108 - 01/01/17 08:14 PM (7 years, 29 days ago)

This does not look like Psilocybe cubensis mycelium. I would call this a contaminant fungi.
They appear to be bruising brown and not blue, which is another indicator of contaminant fungi.

Do any of the cakes bruise blue? Give them a good poke for science, then report back. :lol:


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Re: Do these cakes have a fighting chance? [Re: Shadow of magus]
    #23974110 - 01/01/17 08:15 PM (7 years, 29 days ago)

They don't look good. What are they? can you link to the guide/tek you used?

It looks like you just colonised jars of grain and birthed them, maybe with some verm on top of the jar but not throughout. This is not advisable, not sure if there is any tek saying to do that. If it is pure grain you could have left them in the jars and cased them on top.


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Re: Do these cakes have a fighting chance? [Re: blackout]
    #23974119 - 01/01/17 08:20 PM (7 years, 29 days ago)

I used that guy with beard who looks like bob Ross. They are just straight grain cakes no verm. I guess I'm screwed if some of the viewers thought it was verm on top lol.


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Re: Do these cakes have a fighting chance? [Re: Tmethyl]
    #23974129 - 01/01/17 08:25 PM (7 years, 29 days ago)

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Tmethyl said:
This does not look like Psilocybe cubensis mycelium. I would call this a contaminant fungi.
They appear to be bruising brown and not blue, which is another indicator of contaminant fungi.

Do any of the cakes bruise blue? Give them a good poke for science, then report back. :lol:




:whathesaid:
Either that or theyre seriously fucking bacterial :puke:


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Re: Do these cakes have a fighting chance? [Re: Shadow of magus]
    #23974154 - 01/01/17 08:38 PM (7 years, 29 days ago)

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I used that guy with beard who looks like bob Ross. They are just straight grain cakes no verm. I guess I'm screwed if some of the viewers thought it was verm on top lol.




That guy is RogerRabbit AKA Marc Keith, and his videos are legit. But you did not follow them. Its like you have confused PF cakes and grain jars.

I thought I saw what might have been verm on the lid at the base of the cake, but it now looks like grains that fell off.


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Re: Do these cakes have a fighting chance? [Re: blackout]
    #23974160 - 01/01/17 08:42 PM (7 years, 29 days ago)

I assure you there's no verm on these cakes and how did I confuse the methods ?


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Re: Do these cakes have a fighting chance? [Re: Shadow of magus]
    #23974185 - 01/01/17 08:50 PM (7 years, 29 days ago)

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I assure you there's no verm on these cakes and how did I confuse the methods ?



the video you posted did not show him birthing grain cakes. If you can point to any other video you found showing to do this then please post it, maybe some other youtube video shows this, but not his.

he has a series of videos, he shows how to make PF cakes (a mixture of brown rice flour, water and verm) and he would have a video showing those being birthed and grown in the way you attempted. But it seems you made cakes of pure grain, which are unlikely to fruit using that method.

Sometimes they can give off fruits but usually it will need to be cased, or mixed with bulk substrate.

Here are some miserable shrooms growing off uncased pure grains.


Below are pure popcorn grains at the bottom and then cased/topped with verm after they colonised.




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Re: Do these cakes have a fighting chance? [Re: blackout]
    #23974197 - 01/01/17 08:56 PM (7 years, 29 days ago)

So with grain, do I just use trays? I don't use a birthing technique ? I guess I was confused :sad:, how do i fruit grain jars after colonized?


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Re: Do these cakes have a fighting chance? [Re: Shadow of magus]
    #23974203 - 01/01/17 09:00 PM (7 years, 29 days ago)

Oh, you answered. What did you use for bulk substrate ?


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Re: Do these cakes have a fighting chance? [Re: Shadow of magus]
    #23974218 - 01/01/17 09:07 PM (7 years, 29 days ago)

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So with grain, do I just use trays? I don't use a birthing technique ? I guess I was confused :sad:, how do i fruit grain jars after colonized?



yeah, most use trays and mix with a bulk like coir or verm or a mix. It seems you have tapered jars if you were able to birth them, so you could make PF jars/cakes in the future.

Some of those jars/cakes look like they were screwed from the start, some might have not worse over time, but one in the top right looks like it has grains that never colonised and were likely bacterial from the start.

Are you using agar at all? If you have no agar and no intention of using it them PF cakes would be more suited to you, they are more forgiving if using multispore syringes with no agar.

If your grain jars are questionable instead of birthing or mixing with bulk you can leave it in the jar and case the top like I did, it is not the most efficient use of grains but is simple and you should at least get some shrooms, even if the grains are a bit dodgy.


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Re: Do these cakes have a fighting chance? [Re: blackout]
    #23974233 - 01/01/17 09:13 PM (7 years, 29 days ago)

Here you go
PF tek


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Re: Do these cakes have a fighting chance? [Re: blackout]
    #23974235 - 01/01/17 09:14 PM (7 years, 29 days ago)

Is there anything out there that shows this mixture of coir and verm? Anything provides ratio\method? Have you ever heard of willy myco? Thank you for taking the time to help and share some insight with me


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Re: Do these cakes have a fighting chance? [Re: Shadow of magus]
    #23974266 - 01/01/17 09:27 PM (7 years, 29 days ago)

Here you go
Bucket tek

Also,
Here you go
The basics


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Re: Do these cakes have a fighting chance? [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23974321 - 01/01/17 09:49 PM (7 years, 29 days ago)

Everybody was so helpful and sincere in this thread.
I just.. you guys are all so great.

:emotionalmoment:

Excuse me.


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Re: Do these cakes have a fighting chance? [Re: Tmethyl]
    #23975307 - 01/02/17 07:59 AM (7 years, 28 days ago)

It's so true, every time I as a question it's as if a hand goes on my shoulder and I'm taught lessons instead of scoldings. I love you guys


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Re: Do these cakes have a fighting chance? [Re: Shadow of magus]
    #23975744 - 01/02/17 11:05 AM (7 years, 28 days ago)

I honestly wouldn't know half the shit I do now if I never bothered to help out in the forums.
It's a great way to solidify what you already know and usually if you have a concept twisted a TC or another more experienced member will be quick to chime in and set you straight again.
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