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Re: How 'imperfect' are you? [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #23977410 - 01/02/17 09:44 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Sustenance of a world which we can perhaps rise beyond.




I imagine "dirt", in an allegorical sense, exists in any state as a foundation upon which to cultivate a garden.




True indeed of a dualism, which begs the question: is dualism the fundamental imperfection?




What does gardening and dirt have to do with dualism?


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Re: How 'imperfect' are you? [Re: sudly]
    #23977524 - 01/02/17 10:33 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Dirt (sin) began on a shiny shoe (the perfection).

Dirt (sin) could also tarnish a shiny orthopaedic shoe (the highest perfection).

Different shoes for different blokes. :thumbup:

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Re: How 'imperfect' are you? [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #23977540 - 01/02/17 10:40 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: How 'imperfect' are you? [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #23977950 - 01/03/17 03:51 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Dirt (sin) could also tarnish a shiny orthopaedic shoe (the highest perfection).






That's a take on "strength made perfect in weakness", I assume.

If I am correct, we might assume that by the same agency, happiness would be made perfect in misery.

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Re: How 'imperfect' are you? [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #23978628 - 01/03/17 11:55 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Dirt (sin) could also tarnish a shiny orthopaedic shoe (the highest perfection).






That's a take on "strength made perfect in weakness", I assume.

If I am correct, we might assume that by the same agency, happiness would be made perfect in misery.





Your proposition is based on the physical, yet the 'perfect' can never be in the physical, since the physical is subject to dualism, which incorporates a 'dark' (untruth).

The 'perfect' is proposed to be the true state of the eternal spirt which has always existed in parallel to the physical plane, which is the product of the spirits 'dream' initiated for the purpose of refinement.

The furthest point of cleansing on the material plane is not where a state of perfection is, but where the state of gnosis is, to inherit awareness of the place of where perfection is and has always been.

A part of the 'dirt' then is infact life itself, but its condition is relative to it being the spirits proving ground.

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Re: How 'imperfect' are you? [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #23978680 - 01/03/17 12:18 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

you romance the spirits then in hope that perfection will fall upon you.


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Re: How 'imperfect' are you? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23978720 - 01/03/17 12:39 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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you romance the spirits then in hope that perfection will fall upon you.




It's disappointing that you see yourself so remote from perfection.

You should try to become acquainted with yourself, take yourself for what you are and get on with a good life.

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Re: How 'imperfect' are you? [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #23978751 - 01/03/17 12:50 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

the good life being romance of perfect spirits?
can you say what you mean, don't beat about the bush.
is this about your relationship with perfect beings?


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    #23978758 - 01/03/17 12:52 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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the good life being romance of perfect spirits?




Happiness. :thumbup:

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Re: How 'imperfect' are you? [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #23978774 - 01/03/17 12:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

all right then,
you have admitted a mysticism that is disguised as philosophical formalism.


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Re: How 'imperfect' are you? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23978786 - 01/03/17 01:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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all right then,
you have admitted a mysticism that is disguised as philosophical formalism.




If it makes you happy. :wink:

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Re: How 'imperfect' are you? [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #23978819 - 01/03/17 01:14 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

don't do it for me, I have no interest in it.


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Re: How 'imperfect' are you? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23978852 - 01/03/17 01:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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don't do it for me, I have no interest in it.




Do happiness for yourself. :thumbup:

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Re: How 'imperfect' are you? [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #23979889 - 01/03/17 08:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I'd like to respond to op with first things come to mind:

I'm inpatient at times, and impulsive, to a fault.  I'm failing to a degree of one of the very earliest lessons taught to my own.

I'm a little slow or oblivious at times, ignorantly optimistic in a way, and thick headed.  Some lessons I notice have to be beaten in, when a lot of frustration and toil could've been saved were I as sharp and clear as I once was. ....


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Re: How 'imperfect' are you? [Re: DoneKildatReason]
    #23980035 - 01/03/17 09:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Also, I think I might be too tough on my ol lady..... Either that or she can't handle an acceptable/justifiable level of toughness/ass-chew - if the latter is true, and if I love her, which GOD I DO, then I need to accommodate that sensitivity by being ..... Less up front or harsh..... Damn she can sure dish it out though...... God I love her


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Re: How 'imperfect' are you? [Re: DoneKildatReason]
    #23983705 - 01/05/17 11:42 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

yeah, I guess you are all kind of right there :smirk:
True perfection, and/or true imperfection can NOT be found in the pure physical realm.
But nevertheless it needs both sides in contrast to exist on a physical realm.
That's kind of how duality works. If you focus on the extremes to identify them, you can not find real objects for the comparison on a physical plane. And if you take facts from the physical plane, it's all interwoven parts of more or less parts of the extremes.
Duality is the combination of existence an non-existence, which forms our 'singular' physical reality.
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Re: How 'imperfect' are you? [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #23984401 - 01/05/17 04:27 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

No it's not, duality is the existence of body and mind.

You can't just say shit's immaterial and get away with it, or at least you can't sound rational.


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Re: How 'imperfect' are you? [Re: sudly]
    #23984424 - 01/05/17 04:32 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

And has there any serious definition of mind yet ? I haven't heard of one.
Body represents the existence in the material realm. Mind represents existence in the spiritual realm.
Yes, and that is why humans can be entities in between duality, by experiencing this connection and even express it.

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Re: How 'imperfect' are you? [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #23984454 - 01/05/17 04:39 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

is that your definition?
existence in the "spiritual realm"
did you define spiritual?


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Re: How 'imperfect' are you? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23984464 - 01/05/17 04:44 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yes, spiritual in the sense of perfection, the physically unreachable extremes.
Mind loves to play with those concepts.

But, sorry I am not native english speaking, so there always might be room for misunderstandings.

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