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Re: need help firrst grow b+ [Re: KauaiOrca]
#24050051 - 01/29/17 07:47 PM (7 years, 1 day ago) |
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Axn
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Re: need help firrst grow b+ [Re: mushboy]
#24050076 - 01/29/17 07:53 PM (7 years, 1 day ago) |
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cubensis333 Learn and work with Agar next before you go after mono tubs IMHO.
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Re: need help firrst grow b+ [Re: Axn]
#24051516 - 01/30/17 12:00 PM (7 years, 12 hours ago) |
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Why did you pull off the pins you had?
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cubensis333
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they were all aborts and hadnt changed in over a week, i had a lil trip off them so it wasnt waste
heres update also, the next morning pins had gotten bigger especially the biggest one, hes winnin da race
and heres the cake that i removed all the aborts from, the next day the big pins doubled
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Re: need help firrst grow b+ [Re: cubensis333]
#24051753 - 01/30/17 01:23 PM (7 years, 10 hours ago) |
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does anyone reccomend that i bottom water these? theyre doing fine and will be fine if I dont bottom water them, but I heard bottom watering will increase the mushrooms size by a lot.
and would i just make a little aluminum dish molded from a lid,fill it with a little water, and set it under the cake while its in the SGFC, and let it sit for couple hours then take it out???? so it doesnt cause bacteria from standing water
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KauaiOrca
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Quote:
cubensis333 said: does anyone reccomend that i bottom water these? theyre doing fine and will be fine if I dont bottom water them, but I heard bottom watering will increase the mushrooms size by a lot.
and would i just make a little aluminum dish molded from a lid,fill it with a little water, and set it under the cake while its in the SGFC, and let it sit for couple hours then take it out???? so it doesnt cause bacteria from standing water
I strongly suggest you do not screw with this grow. It's your first one ... let them grow out and don't take any risks of screwing it up.
LEAVE THEM ALONE! Let them grow out.
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Re: need help firrst grow b+ [Re: KauaiOrca]
#24053509 - 01/31/17 03:19 AM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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He had some pins that were rotting and its best to remove them but apart from that
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Re: need help firrst grow b+ [Re: Edmunter]
#24053763 - 01/31/17 08:33 AM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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This is good information. Since Im a newbie Im really looking forward to grow these since they are the easiest to grow
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cubensis333
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Re: need help firrst grow b+ [Re: Mikeify]
#24054119 - 01/31/17 10:43 AM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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ok i wont bottom water, ill try that out in my next one if i do cakes again, or maybe ill bottom water on 2nd flushes
but anyways look how fast theyre growing,
  my question is when should I pick them? I read that right before the veil breaks. but the shroom in the first pic already broke its veil(from the shroom turning at a sharp angle). and the second pic how big does the veil get befor it breaks?
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Re: need help firrst grow b+ [Re: cubensis333]
#24054167 - 01/31/17 10:59 AM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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I pick just after the veil breaks
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Re: need help firrst grow b+ [Re: Edmunter]
#24054575 - 01/31/17 01:36 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Just wait for them to open up a little bit. It's not gonna matter really. From what I remember, once the veil tears from the cap psilocybin stops producing(or maybe stops producing as much) but the mushroom will continue to gain weight.
so if you tear it right before it breaks you have a mushroom that produced most if not all of its psilocybin. RR said that pins have the highest ratio of psilocybin to weight so 3 grams of pins will contain a larger psilocybin dosage over 3 grams of full grown mushrooms. I say it doesnt matter though because you are growing them, need more eat more 
My rule of thumb is pick right before or after the veil tears but definitely harvest before they dump their spores everywhere.
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cubensis333
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ok thank you for the very helpful advice, another thing is I have a few shrooms that are small like 1 inch big maybe 1 and 1/2 inch that the viel have broke on, and idk if I should pick it because 1.they look like they could grow a lot mroe, and arent even done growing. 2. theyre connected to big clusters so i cant really just pick ONE off, you know what i mean? 3. will leaving the shrooms with split viels drop spores everywhere?
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Re: need help firrst grow b+ [Re: cubensis333]
#24054741 - 01/31/17 02:38 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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sounds like their veils tore prematurely so I'd leavem. Even if they do shoot their spore out, it's nothing bad really, just can be messier. Do what you need to harvest the largest amount of potent fruits, that's what you are in this for right .
I wouldn't pluck a mushroom that may end up bringing an entire premature cluster along with it though, just be careful harvesting.
How many cakes do you have going now?
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cubensis333
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im not so much going for size, just potency.
and i read that once the veils break they dont even produce any more magic, they just get bigger. and im tryna trip so i really dont care about size.
and does it help that the shrooms with broken veils are turning blue on the bottom like a 1 centimeter to an inch of bruising on the base of the shrooms. does this mean pick???
and i have 5 cakes to answer your question, 2 are pinning and have been in chamber for over 2 weeks and a couple days ago i added 3 more 1/2 pints im also thinking about throwing a pint aa+ albino in the chamber with the 5 1/2 pint b+'s... good idea or no
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Re: need help firrst grow b+ [Re: cubensis333]
#24056426 - 02/01/17 05:38 AM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Picture please
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