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acidic blood vs serotonin
    #23971170 - 12/31/16 03:34 PM (7 years, 30 days ago)

hi shroomery,

I don't really know where to ask the question so I'll try here.

I've found that in several fields like nutrition, veganism, drinking water, tobacco smoking, the words "acidity" or "blood acidification" came up often.
Knowing what an acid/base extraction is, I had a chain reaction in my head as I was looking at a video where a guy was explain why distilled water as drinking water was good. He was explaining that water without minerals was a great solvent, especially to remove toxins stuck in the body.
There all these thoughts started to come up:

pineal gland calcification
cancer likes acidic environnement
osteoporosis as a result of acid blood
extracting dmt or other with acidic solution
dmt, psylocibin close to serotonin
serotonin created in digestive system
serotonin flowing in the blood
acidic blood could cause ingested acidic molecules to bond with serotonin, then treated as junk by the organism and peed, just like dmt in its vinegar/dmt form?

also tobacco is known to acidify the blood, I king of feel its unpleasant effect when I smoke, but not anymore on mushrooms, could it be because my blood has been alkalanised by the psylocibin?

some people also recommend alkaline drinking water. Would there be a sort of alkaline chemical extraction of acidic toxin happening then?

So... just a brain storm, any comments ??


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Re: acidic blood vs serotonin [Re: trg64]
    #23971393 - 12/31/16 05:20 PM (7 years, 30 days ago)

Shrooms won't do much to the bodies ph.  I think you are over thinking body ph.  Here the water is very alkaline as in most places.  Your stomach is also acidic so pretty much everything touches that.


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Re: acidic blood vs serotonin [Re: trg64]
    #23971980 - 12/31/16 10:08 PM (7 years, 30 days ago)

The pH of your blood doesn't change significantly enough to do much, if it did you'd probably be dead/ill.

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In mammals, the normal pH of arterial blood lies between 7.35 and 7.50 depending on the species (e.g. healthy human-arterial blood pH varies between 7.35 and 7.45).




One thing you can do is change the pH of your stomach acid with your diet.
This sort of change in pH may be beneficial if someone is experiencing bowel problems or digestive issues.

E.g. Sugary things acidify stomach acids while lemon juice or other alkalising ingredients reduce it.


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Re: acidic blood vs serotonin [Re: sudly]
    #23972343 - 01/01/17 04:35 AM (7 years, 29 days ago)

I also heard that the duodenum was basifying what came out of the stomach before it goes in the intestin.
There was a guy advocating veganism saying that there was a link between lot meat consumption combined with not enough fruits and veggies, leading to acidification of to blood, and the body wanting to keep a blood pH level was in last resort splitting the phosphorus-calcium complex in the bones to get the phosphorus getting back the pH to the 7,4 while the calcium was peed. He made the link between osteoporosis statistics and countries with big meat consumption habits. I found some university papers on google backing it up although they advocated eating more fruits and veggies.

So my conclusion to that was that the body is regulating the blood pH at all costs, so blood pH is not moving. The question was what are all the phenomenons happening before the body goes to regulating, and could it be that while food goes through big changes in pH in the digestive system, if when it goes in the blood it tends to acidify it before regulation happens, there is a spontaneous acid/base association leading to the disappearance of useful alcaline molecules in the blood.

my last biology class was 15 years ago so I just mean to explain the picture in my head, not how it is like, and i would definitely need some update and research :wink:

about the pH of water:


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Re: acidic blood vs serotonin [Re: trg64]
    #23972383 - 01/01/17 06:18 AM (7 years, 29 days ago)

I know with a dog, ph being dramatic in any direction can cause stones.  I figure my diet balances out.  Water with a ph around 8.  Don't know what the ph of most of my foods are.  I know booze is acidic.


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Re: acidic blood vs serotonin [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23976218 - 01/02/17 01:38 PM (7 years, 28 days ago)

got some interesting stuff for those still following:
there is such a thing as Potential Renal Acid Load ( what the pH of food is when it reaches the kidneys), they are some stuff about excretion of uric acid. looks like my stuff doesn't seem so inappropriate..

have a look:
http://www.molecularfitness.com/hcn1_0/Cuisine_PRAL.aspx
http://www.goutpal.com/gout-diet/gout-diet-menu/potential-renal-acid-load/
http://www.direct-ms.org/pdf/NutritionGeneral/Remer%20and%20Manz%20Acid%20Base.pdf


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Re: acidic blood vs serotonin [Re: trg64]
    #23998275 - 01/10/17 01:39 PM (7 years, 20 days ago)

Blood pH doesn't change outside of its natural range, as stated before, without serious illness. Even when it does, your body responds by forcing you to breathe faster or slower (CO2 dissolved is an acid) and your kidneys creating bicarb.

Anyone telling your pH is out of balance is running a scam. Serotonin isn't involved cause it doesn't happen, neither is osteoporosis. Cultures with high meat consumption also tend to be less active, as well as an untold amount of other variables. Correlation does not mean causation.


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Re: acidic blood vs serotonin [Re: metalfaith]
    #24004081 - 01/12/17 01:21 PM (7 years, 18 days ago)

According to the medical doctor I asked about body pH his reply was that the lungs regulate the body's pH, makes sense, I dont want my organic molecules swinging up and down pH wise :smile:


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Re: acidic blood vs serotonin [Re: Prem. Kissoff]
    #24004324 - 01/12/17 02:36 PM (7 years, 18 days ago)

Eat more goat, fish and chicken.  Olive oil is also very good.

Most people don't know how many calories they consume.


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Re: acidic blood vs serotonin [Re: Morel Guy]
    #24005050 - 01/12/17 06:14 PM (7 years, 18 days ago)

Good discussion I learn a lot :smile:


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Re: acidic blood vs serotonin [Re: trg64]
    #24031249 - 01/22/17 05:33 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

Goat helps the pH Im told.


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