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Paradigm Shift
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You can't just have a baby and then assume to be immune from life itself.
You are still responsible for yourself and now your responsible for raising another liffe form too that YOU chose to create. You chose it.
Please stop blaming others and blaming men. You are equal to us.
We want to help but we don't know what to do anymore because your ego is in the way. You seem to have the belief that because your female you are good and that men are bad.
You won't accept equality yet claim to want equality?
I'm sorry you ruined your life with a bad choice but don't blame men or your children. Obviously life itself makes you want a baby. Thats hormones. The same as life makes men want to fuck you. Thats how life procreates. Please get over yourselves and wake up.
We are equals here trying to raise our children. I'm sorry to say it but something has to be done.
Women everywhere are just popping children out then claiming they are immune to responsability. Don't have the child if your not prepared to care for, pay for and love it for the next 18 years. Maybe longer considering how todays financial economy is raping the poor.
I'm from the UK and this is epedemic. They just pop em out to get a house as theres no other way. They don't care about the children at all, they just see it as a way to satisfy their urges and get a house then complain for the next 18 years cause they actualy got a new life form lol.
I dunno what to do or say about this anymore. Please just stop over populating the Earth based on your bizarre delusions.
Nobody is willing to say it because women become immune to all and any critisicm just by having a baby. :/ Why don't they have to take some sort of course or licensing to make sure they are capable of dealing with it? Creating a life is equal to taking one yet these people don't get jailed for popping out a child carelessly and society then having to deal with it.
Most the girls I grew up with now have babies from fathers all over. They don't even raise the children, the fathers care for them. They just sit in their government free house getting drunk and acting life a 14 year old yet producing more and more children. Thats the way we've created our society and this is the result.
None of the men even speak up cuz the women have a vagina they want to stick their dick in still. So they just get away with it. These children know they are bastard kids and go out and fuck up society cuz they are pissed off with having no real family. Their parents created them to get a flat.
A lot of them are pimping the men out, they get multiple fathers, get a free house and multiple income streams as the fathers are forced to pay money to the government afterwards so the women use this to create a job. They can get houses and multiple income streams the more different men they fuck and create kids with for the system.
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op just pay your child support man.
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Crystal G



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Malcolm_Xtasy said: op just pay your child support man.
Seriously, dude just sounds like he impregnated somebody and now he's bitching about being forced to pay the $300 a month or whatever. What a stingy cheapskate.
You're getting off easy if you're only paying a couple hundred bucks a month for child support, take responsibility for your little shits.
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Paradigm Shift said: You can't just have a baby and then assume to be immune from life itself.
You are still responsible for yourself and now your responsible for raising another liffe form too that YOU chose to create. You chose it.
Please stop blaming others and blaming men. You are equal to us.
We want to help but we don't know what to do anymore because your ego is in the way. You seem to have the belief that because your female you are good and that men are bad.
You won't accept equality yet claim to want equality?
I'm sorry you ruined your life with a bad choice but don't blame men or your children. Obviously life itself makes you want a baby. Thats hormones. The same as life makes men want to fuck you. Thats how life procreates. Please get over yourselves and wake up.
We are equals here trying to raise our children. I'm sorry to say it but something has to be done.
Women everywhere are just popping children out then claiming they are immune to responsability. Don't have the child if your not prepared to care for, pay for and love it for the next 18 years. Maybe longer considering how todays financial economy is raping the poor.
I'm from the UK and this is epedemic. They just pop em out to get a house as theres no other way. They don't care about the children at all, they just see it as a way to satisfy their urges and get a house then complain for the next 18 years cause they actualy got a new life form lol.
I dunno what to do or say about this anymore. Please just stop over populating the Earth based on your bizarre delusions.
Nobody is willing to say it because women become immune to all and any critisicm just by having a baby. :/ Why don't they have to take some sort of course or licensing to make sure they are capable of dealing with it? Creating a life is equal to taking one yet these people don't get jailed for popping out a child carelessly and society then having to deal with it.
Most the girls I grew up with now have babies from fathers all over. They don't even raise the children, the fathers care for them. They just sit in their government free house getting drunk and acting life a 14 year old yet producing more and more children. Thats the way we've created our society and this is the result.
None of the men even speak up cuz the women have a vagina they want to stick their dick in still. So they just get away with it. These children know they are bastard kids and go out and fuck up society cuz they are pissed off with having no real family. Their parents created them to get a flat.
A lot of them are pimping the men out, they get multiple fathers, get a free house and multiple income streams as the fathers are forced to pay money to the government afterwards so the women use this to create a job. They can get houses and multiple income streams the more different men they fuck and create kids with for the system.
What the fuck are you talking about
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Paradigm Shift said: Most the girls I grew up with now have babies from fathers all over. They don't even raise the children, the fathers care for them. They just sit in their government free house getting drunk and acting life a 14 year old yet producing more and more children. Thats the way we've created our society and this is the result.
None of the men even speak up cuz the women have a vagina they want to stick their dick in still. So they just get away with it. These children know they are bastard kids and go out and fuck up society cuz they are pissed off with having no real family. Their parents created them to get a flat.
A lot of them are pimping the men out, they get multiple fathers, get a free house and multiple income streams as the fathers are forced to pay money to the government afterwards so the women use this to create a job. They can get houses and multiple income streams the more different men they fuck and create kids with for the system.
The stuff you say doesn't even make sense.
First you claim they are bastard children, yet their fathers are the ones that care for them. Well they aren't bastard children then, are they?
Second if the children are living with their fathers under paternal custody, then how is it that these mothers are eligible for all these supposed government benefits?
Also what is a "government free" house. Is there a program out there that gives free housing to people automatically just because they have children, because I have never heard of such a program. Surely you can tell us the name of this program, that offers completely free housing to mothers.
The average child support payment is something like $327 a month. That's PEASANT CHANGE, you fool. That's literally NOTHING and barely covers jack shit after you've bought everything for the baby.
You do realize a crib alone costs like $300, right? Then there's the stroller which is another $400, car seat another $400, the playpen another $150, the baby mattress another $80, baby blankets and sheets another $200, breast pumps $300, nursing supplies another $300, clothes and diapers and formula and toys that's a continuous expense all throughout, and all this other shit that all adds up.
Now tell me again how exactly you get "rich" off a couple hundred dollars a month with all these expenses. Go on, I'll wait.
I'm convinced people who claim this kind of shit are seriously horrible at math, or really just have no idea how much it costs to raise a child.
Edited by Crystal G (01/01/17 12:04 AM)
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no idea what OP is trying to argue, but Middleman, your avatar is amazing
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Women are terrible at picking good men.
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Haven't seen you in a while Middleman. Your new avatar is pretty fucking awesome.
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Reason: This thread does not offer a spiritual or mystical topic for discussion.
no idea what OP is trying to argue, but Middleman, your avatar is amazing 
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I could say that most men are rapists, and are more than willing to lie and deceive in order to acquire sexual favors, but would that really be a fair assessment of men for me to make?
I understand that some hussy tricked you into falling for her then tore your heart out, but try not to hold a grudge against women. That just shows how uninsightful and emotionally unbalanced you are.
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this thread is stupid but he's reight I hate women that have bastard kids too the guy only makes min wage most of the time so they have the baby anyway then it gets born they don't want to breast feed it, they sit in front of the t.v. they don't work A lot of fucked up shit happens when you take the reigns off of certain people in society this one girl had a feral cat and she wouldn't spay it becuase it was the cats body there were literally 30 or 40 cats running around and it took the neighbor to bring them in and constant death to do anything, then the parents can't pay for the house anymore and they leave even though the kids were like in their 23 and 27s it's mind boggling how these people think, if you collect gov't assisstence you shouldn't be allowed to have kids, collecting gov't assistance for the rest of your life makes you somewhat retarded
EDIT: also I beleive this thread belongs in Ladies Night
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Why don't you tell us how you really feel OP.
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specialpeopleclub said: Women are terrible at picking good men.
Get it together women.
Perhaps they are so terrible at picking good because a majority of men are by default, terrible. That seems to be what you are implying anyway.
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it's almost as if men and women deserve to be together. Wan't to make sure you don't get fucked over by the opposite sex? Stay alone forever. Nobody is stopping anyone from doing that.
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Re: Women (moved) [Re: Konyap]
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Konyap said: this thread is stupid but he's reight I hate women that have bastard kids too the guy only makes min wage most of the time so they have the baby anyway then it gets born they don't want to breast feed it, they sit in front of the t.v. they don't work A lot of fucked up shit happens when you take the reigns off of certain people in society this one girl had a feral cat and she wouldn't spay it becuase it was the cats body there were literally 30 or 40 cats running around and it took the neighbor to bring them in and constant death to do anything, then the parents can't pay for the house anymore and they leave even though the kids were like in their 23 and 27s it's mind boggling how these people think, if you collect gov't assisstence you shouldn't be allowed to have kids, collecting gov't assistance for the rest of your life makes you somewhat retarded
EDIT: also I beleive this thread belongs in Ladies Night
I would move it back to the pub.
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We have a system which encourages multiple fathers and discourages marriage, as a result we have broken households and shitty family structures.
There was a day and time when single women getting pregnant was a social disagree for her and her entire family, I'm not saying that was totally acceptable, but as least there was some standard, today there are zero standards for women and their children.
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Paradigm Shift said: You can't just have a baby and then assume to be immune from life itself.
You are still responsible for yourself and now your responsible for raising another liffe form too that YOU chose to create. You chose it.
Please stop blaming others and blaming men. You are equal to us.
We want to help but we don't know what to do anymore because your ego is in the way. You seem to have the belief that because your female you are good and that men are bad.
You won't accept equality yet claim to want equality?
I'm sorry you ruined your life with a bad choice but don't blame men or your children.
didnt a man take part in making that bad choice?
now suck it up and pay your child support
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qman said: We have a system which encourages multiple fathers and discourages marriage, as a result we have broken households and shitty family structures.
There was a day and time when single women getting pregnant was a social disagree for her and her entire family, I'm not saying that was totally acceptable, but as least there was some standard, today there are zero standards for women and their children.
No we have sex drives that we can barely control and often unrealistic expectations for ourselves and others.
That is nothing new, and you can bitch all you like but it isn't likely to change. If it helps go ahead and cry about it tho, I won't judge.
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Re: Women (moved) [Re: qman]
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qman said: We have a system which encourages multiple fathers and discourages marriage, as a result we have broken households and shitty family structures.
There was a day and time when single women getting pregnant was a social disagree for her and her entire family, I'm not saying that was totally acceptable, but as least there was some standard, today there are zero standards for women and their children.
Where are the standards for men? Seems like men are very seldom blamed or shamed if they have a child that they barely see, or only do the bare minimum of paying child support to.
Perhaps if society had higher standards for men we wouldn't see this kind of behavior.
It's not like women have all the power and can force men into marrying them if they don't want to. Single motherhood is so rampant because men are often complete failures as fathers and end up becoming absentees.
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cry me a fuckin' river why dontcha
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qman said: We have a system which encourages multiple fathers and discourages marriage, as a result we have broken households and shitty family structures.
There was a day and time when single women getting pregnant was a social disagree for her and her entire family, I'm not saying that was totally acceptable, but as least there was some standard, today there are zero standards for women and their children.
Where are the standards for men? Seems like men are very seldom blamed or shamed if they have a child that they barely see, or only do the bare minimum of paying child support to.
Perhaps if society had higher standards for men we wouldn't see this kind of behavior.
It's not like women have all the power and can force men into marrying them if they don't want to. Single motherhood is so rampant because men are often complete failures as fathers and end up becoming absentees.
Men can't get pregnant, that's why there's a different standard, but men used to get shamed into marrying the woman they impregnated, that standard or shame no longer exists.
"Single motherhood is so rampant because men are often complete failures as fathers"
The system encourages them to be failures, when a woman receives welfare and other social benefits from being a single mother as opposed to struggling with her low-income baby's daddy, it's a real simple choice.
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qman said: The system encourages them to be failures, when a woman receives welfare and other social benefits from being a single mother as opposed to struggling with her low-income baby's daddy, it's a real simple choice.
I don't think that's the explanation for single motherhood, low-income people use those government benefits regardless of whether the father is involved and with the mother or not.
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Does the mother have to pay alimony if the father raises the child(ren) by himself? I know very little about the subject.
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Paradigm Shift said: Most the girls I grew up with now have babies from fathers all over. They don't even raise the children, the fathers care for them. They just sit in their government free house getting drunk and acting life a 14 year old yet producing more and more children. Thats the way we've created our society and this is the result.
None of the men even speak up cuz the women have a vagina they want to stick their dick in still. So they just get away with it. These children know they are bastard kids and go out and fuck up society cuz they are pissed off with having no real family. Their parents created them to get a flat.
A lot of them are pimping the men out, they get multiple fathers, get a free house and multiple income streams as the fathers are forced to pay money to the government afterwards so the women use this to create a job. They can get houses and multiple income streams the more different men they fuck and create kids with for the system.
The stuff you say doesn't even make sense.
First you claim they are bastard children, yet their fathers are the ones that care for them. Well they aren't bastard children then, are they?
Also what is a "government free" house. Is there a program out there that gives free housing to people automatically just because they have children, because I have never heard of such a program. Surely you can tell us the name of this program, that offers completely free housing to mothers.
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Tried looking into social supports for the UK, and think OP may be complaining that apparently people with more children get a larger monthly benefit for housing, because they need to pay to rent larger places https://www.gov.uk/housing-benefit/what-youll-get then also get separate payments for having children https://www.gov.uk/child-benefit-rates
Do not personally live in the UK, but it seems somewhat reminiscent of the systems we have here in Canada.
Am generally in the camp that people should get extra money from the government for not having children, but am on disability and made the decision to undergo medical sterilization rather than deal with the repercussions of having a kid in my position. My position is likely quite heavily biased. Noteworthy that the government also covers the cost of such sterilization procedures though. 
Here in Canada, the housing benefit is calculated on a case-by-case benefit, and the amount they give me is directly correlated with my monthly rent payments -- get enough from the housing benefit to cover the cost of housing and utilities; my life is by no means glamorous, but it gives me a place to live and facilitates a means of accessing treatment programs that will hopefully one day get me off disability, rather than having to scrape out a living on the street and not having the opportunity to potentially better myself.
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lets drive around said: Does the mother have to pay alimony if the father raises the child(ren) by himself? I know very little about the subject.
Yes, absolutely. In fact, a coworker that I know is in this exact situation. He is raising his son by himself and took his former partner to court and she pays child support to him every month.
The amount that she was ordered to pay is paltry too, it's like $300 a month or something, which is nothing in terms of cost to raise a child. But the average monthly child support payment is only $327 or something like that. That might be enough to cover his kid's food and health insurance payments, but that's about it.
The amount of child support he was awarded is probably that low, because I'm guessing he makes a lot more than her. I know he makes pretty good money, at least $60 grand a year.
But at least his child is 7 or 8 and not a baby anymore.
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SweetLeafSamadhi said: Tried looking into social supports for the UK, and think OP may be complaining that apparently people with more children get a larger monthly benefit for housing, because they need to pay to rent larger places https://www.gov.uk/housing-benefit/what-youll-get then also get separate payments for having children https://www.gov.uk/child-benefit-rates
Do not personally live in the UK, but it seems somewhat reminiscent of the systems we have here in Canada.
See, in the USA we have "section 8 housing," which is a similar program. But these houses are usually crappy in the worst of ghettos, with tons of crime and drugs and gun and violence, and the homes are often filthy full of cockroaches and rats too.
It's not a place you'd ever want to live, if you had the choice of living anywhere else. It's basically for people who are practically homeless and have no other option.
And these houses are not completely free, either. You must be working to get them, and they simply take a portion out of your paycheck for rent. People who aren't working only have the option of living in a homeless shelter.
That's what I was confused about, is the "completely free government housing" OP is talking about. Because at least in the USA, there is no such thing.
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qman said: The system encourages them to be failures, when a woman receives welfare and other social benefits from being a single mother as opposed to struggling with her low-income baby's daddy, it's a real simple choice.
I don't think that's the explanation for single motherhood, low-income people use those government benefits regardless of whether the father is involved and with the mother or not.
They get more when they're not married, I think you know how the game is played, this isn't rocket science.
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SweetLeafSamadhi said: Tried looking into social supports for the UK, and think OP may be complaining that apparently people with more children get a larger monthly benefit for housing, because they need to pay to rent larger places https://www.gov.uk/housing-benefit/what-youll-get then also get separate payments for having children https://www.gov.uk/child-benefit-rates
Do not personally live in the UK, but it seems somewhat reminiscent of the systems we have here in Canada.
See, in the USA we have "section 8 housing," which is a similar program. But these houses are usually crappy in the worst of ghettos, with tons of crime and drugs and gun and violence, and the homes are often filthy full of cockroaches and rats too.
It's not a place you'd ever want to live, if you had the choice of living anywhere else. It's basically for people who are practically homeless and have no other option.
lol... tell us about your experiences living in section 8 housing
I lived there when I was in my teens. a friend of mine owned a couple of homes that were paid for under section 8, they were nice, modest suburban homes, well cared for by another friend of mine. the 3 of us were roomies at one point and we abducted the guy which is how we met.
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SweetLeafSamadhi said: Tried looking into social supports for the UK, and think OP may be complaining that apparently people with more children get a larger monthly benefit for housing, because they need to pay to rent larger places https://www.gov.uk/housing-benefit/what-youll-get then also get separate payments for having children https://www.gov.uk/child-benefit-rates
Do not personally live in the UK, but it seems somewhat reminiscent of the systems we have here in Canada.
See, in the USA we have "section 8 housing," which is a similar program. But these houses are usually crappy in the worst of ghettos, with tons of crime and drugs and gun and violence, and the homes are often filthy full of cockroaches and rats too.
It's not a place you'd ever want to live, if you had the choice of living anywhere else. It's basically for people who are practically homeless and have no other option.
And these houses are not completely free, either. You must be working to get them, and they simply take a portion out of your paycheck for rent. People who aren't working only have the option of living in a homeless shelter.
That's what I was confused about, is the "completely free government housing" OP is talking about. Because at least in the USA, there is no such thing.
well did you know that other countries actually dont have to do what america does? Did you know that they might have there own culture and government? You cant just assume that everything is like murica...
Women always say that want a nice caring man... but then ALWAYS choose the shitty abusive one. Just how women work.
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Prisoner#1 said: lol... tell us about your experiences living in section 8 housing
I lived there when I was in my teens. a friend of mine owned a couple of homes that were paid for under section 8, they were nice, modest suburban homes, well cared for by another friend of mine. the 3 of us were roomies at one point and we abducted the guy which is how we met.
Must be different based on the region I guess, in the city you aren't going to get to live in a nice neighborhood under Section 8.
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Women always say that want a nice caring man... but then ALWAYS choose the shitty abusive one. Just how women work.
I didn't realize OP was from the UK, we have very few Europeans on this site and only a couple Canadians, most of the members here are Americans so why is it so absurd to assume that OP was also an American?
Yes, ALL women ALWAYS chose the shitty abusive man. Because clearly 100% of all men in serious relationships are abusive. 
Where do people even get this crap from? Do you even know a woman who is a victim of DV?
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well did you know that other countries actually dont have to do what america does? Did you know that they might have there own culture and government? You cant just assume that everything is like murica...
Women always say that want a nice caring man... but then ALWAYS choose the shitty abusive one. Just how women work.
So what you're saying, is that EVERY man who is in a relationship with a woman is shitty and abusive when compared to "nice caring men". That is nexbeard territory man. It's really just as simplistic as men who go out there saying, "women want to get treated like shit, they like it."
I mean most of out problem, men and women, is that we are fickle, vulnerable, frightened. People who are going to rail on one or the other saying they are the problem are merely projecting their own issues.
Why do you think people say love sucks? It's no picnic, and it certainly doesn't make sense. We all want someone who is loving, reasonable, honest but the thing is you can't be loving and be like "fuck you bitch, it's all your fault," that's just being a bitter asshole.
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kakashi68 said: well did you know that other countries actually dont have to do what america does? Did you know that they might have there own culture and government? You cant just assume that everything is like murica...
Women always say that want a nice caring man... but then ALWAYS choose the shitty abusive one. Just how women work.
I didn't realize OP was from the UK, we have very few Europeans on this site and only a couple Canadians, most of the members here are Americans so why is it so absurd to assume that OP was also an American?
Yes, ALL women ALWAYS chose the shitty abusive man. Because clearly 100% of all men in serious relationships are abusive. 
Where do people even get this crap from? Do you even know a woman who is a victim of DV?
yep two of my closest friends are victims.
OP clearly stated he was from UK.
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I mean most of out problem, men and women, is that we are fickle, vulnerable, frightened. People who are going to rail on one or the other saying they are the problem are merely projecting their own issues.
Why do you think people say love sucks? It's no picnic, and it certainly doesn't make sense. We all want someone who is loving, reasonable, honest but the thing is you can't be loving and be like "fuck you bitch, it's all your fault," that's just being a bitter asshole.
It's always some neckbeard shit, these are the same guys that claim that women like "douchebags," and like to come up with a million reasons for why women gloss them over. "Oh it's because I'm too nice," "I'm not enough of a douchebag" or whatever, when in actuality the real reason is because they simply don't have appealing traits. Women who look like models aren't going to go for 500lb ugly neckbeards who spend all day playing Counterstrike, shocking isn't it?
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I mean most of out problem, men and women, is that we are fickle, vulnerable, frightened. People who are going to rail on one or the other saying they are the problem are merely projecting their own issues.
Why do you think people say love sucks? It's no picnic, and it certainly doesn't make sense. We all want someone who is loving, reasonable, honest but the thing is you can't be loving and be like "fuck you bitch, it's all your fault," that's just being a bitter asshole.
It's always some neckbeard shit, these are the same guys that claim that women like "douchebags," and like to come up with a million reasons for why women gloss them over. "Oh it's because I'm too nice," "I'm not enough of a douchebag" or whatever, when in actuality the real reason is because they simply don't have what it takes. Women who look like models aren't going to go for 500lb neckbeards who spend all day playing Counterstrike, shocking isn't it?
lol. what bs. Women just like douchebags... its just a physiological fact. You cant get around it. Now yes of course you still cant go out of your league. But there is no fucking excuse for women to stay with people who abuse them mentally and physically. Those kind of women just like that shit whether they admit it or not.
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That's not anymore true than saying that men like bimbos.
It's simply scientific fact that bimbos and douchebags go together like peanut butter and jelly.
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Precisely why I would keep it out of the ladies forum. Discussion in intelligent manner isn't much of a requirement in the pub anymore but it is intended (and now enforced) to be there.
Not that I and others don't shit post. I'd like to think I have thought provoking shit posts though.
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You do realize a crib alone costs like $300, right? Then there's the stroller which is another $400, car seat another $400, the playpen another $150, the baby mattress another $80, baby blankets and sheets another $200, breast pumps $300, nursing supplies another $300, clothes and diapers and formula and toys that's a continuous expense all throughout, and all this other shit that all adds up.
Most of those prices you named are outrageous, ludicrously high
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You do realize a crib alone costs like $300, right? Then there's the stroller which is another $400, car seat another $400, the playpen another $150, the baby mattress another $80, baby blankets and sheets another $200, breast pumps $300, nursing supplies another $300, clothes and diapers and formula and toys that's a continuous expense all throughout, and all this other shit that all adds up.
Most of those prices you named are outrageous, ludicrously high
These are nowhere close to "outrageous, ludicrously high"... some of these items if purchased from a high-end luxury retailer can go in the thousands of dollars. That would be "outrageously high." I was typing in these items into the search engine as I was posting so I was sure that my prices would be relatively accurate and within reason.
I just looked up cribs right now, they range anywhere from $145 on Walmart to $180 from Kohl's to $425 from Land of Nod.
Strollers, $199 from Target or $1,323 from Albee. The $400 strollers are the ones that are convertible and are able to convert into a car seat and also a bassinet. These are the ones you want to buy, otherwise you have to wake the baby up every single time you need to move the baby from the car to the stroller.
Play-pens, $80 from Toys R Us, $183 from Walmart, $189 from Bed Bath & Beyond.
You don't necessarily want the cheapest of everything either, cheaper items might not be as safe or they aren't as durable or fall apart easily. You get what you pay for.
So yeah, you might find a stroller that's only $40, but it's going to be one of those cheap dinky little strollers on wheels that can't seat anything heavier than 9lbs, so you can't use it past 3 months anyway.
You might be able to find a breast pump for under $50 from Walmart or something, but it's not going to be medical-grade, and the pump mechanism might be uncomfortable or painful. If you want to get something comfortable and medical-grade, you're going to have to spend a couple hundred dollars. Medical-grade breast pumps range anywhere from $200 to $2,000. You might be able to find a $30 baby mattress somewhere, but you'll find that the mattress doesn't hold long and it shrinks over time which is very dangerous, or the springs start sagging after only a couple months use.
And bear in mind I haven't even begun to have listed all the other shit that babies need. Things like nursing pads, lanolin cream, nipple covers, bottles, feeding pillows, baby harness, feeding booths, changing tables, feeding silverware, potty training equipment, etc. So the costs are actually more expensive than what I listed if you account for all the other shit you have to buy over time.
In short, babies are damn expensive. You should never underestimate their cost.
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Those prices are really high, blowing an extra $150 on everything is crazy when you add it all up, as you said there are many things one needs.
Theres a rule of thumb with personal finances: live below your means, not at or above. Just because you can buy a $300 stroller doesnt mean you should, there are alternatives.
$300 is not a small amount of money either, even if you make twice that in a day, waste is waste, devaluing money leads to waste, delaying savings for large purchases and retirement. As well as artificially raising the bar for how much one needs for such things.
Babies are probably expensive enough without shelling out large sums of money for every little thing.
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Haha..... Maybe you should look at the difference between a $50 stroller and a $200 one, it's easy to see why the $200 stroller costs $200.
Here's a $20 stroller from Target, you can tell this thing is really cheap, probably doesn't carry over 10lbs and will probably fall apart pretty easily
http://target.scene7.com/is/image/Target/17236219?wid=3000&hei=3000&qlt=70&fmt=pjpeg
Here's a $60 stroller from Target, looks a little better and more durable, but again this is just a stroller and nothing else, it doesn't convert into a car seat or anything.
If you try to save all this money buying a cheap stroller only to have to spend more money to buy a car seat on top of that, then you're not really saving any money are you?
http://target.scene7.com/is/image/Target/50183558?wid=3000&hei=3000&qlt=70&fmt=pjpeg
Compare this with a $279 stroller that converts into a car seat and a bassinet.
There's a reason $300 strollers come with the price tag attached. You don't want to have to wake the baby up every time you want to move the baby from the car to the stroller. If you have to spend time shushing a crying baby every time you want to go somewhere, then you're really not saving anything in money in the long run, are you?
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I could just make a crib with some wood and tools laying about, or buy a used one, get a hand me down from a cousin, thrift for one or use common sense and find a middle ground in value.
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eeven if some of her numbers were a bit over the actual costs....having a baby does cost that much...and way fucking more
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That's fine if you can do that, that is if you know how to do it properly and safely. Most fathers who are working full-time or overtime would rather simply pay the $200 to have something that is guaranteed to be safe, but if you already know the craft and are familiar with it and have enough free time to do it then do it.
I sincerely doubt you would be able to build a stroller or a car seat though, and plus a car seat is one of those things you don't want to cheap out on or be frugal about. You shouldn't get a used one either, since you don't know how many accidents that thing has been through already.
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or buy a used one, get a hand me down from a cousin, thrift for one or use common sense and find a middle ground in value.
Again, there's always risks with doing that. After suffering through a bedbug infestation, I will never buy used furniture ever again.
If you end up with a cockroach or bedbug infestation or some kind of disease, it ends up costing you thousands of dollars more in the long run, just because you tried to save $100. Asinine.
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Exactly, he wants to nitpick over how much this stuff actually costs, but the reality is I didn't even mention half the shit a baby needs. If anything, my costs were therefore underestimated, not overestimated.
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I didnt say all of those items were overpriced, a carseat is much more abstract to construct than a crib or stroller.
As far as bed bugs and roaches go, youre paranoid. Ive dealt with infestations.
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Exactly, he wants to nitpick over how much this stuff actually costs, but the reality is I didn't even mention half the shit a baby needs. If anything, my costs were therefore underestimated, not overestimated.
Uh duh
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Hah. Then you would know bed bugs are practically impossible to get rid of yourself, the only way to successfully eradicate them is to have your home professionally heat-treated which costs thousands of dollars. I'm talking in the $5,000 to $10,000 range, depending on the size of your home. Maybe if you live in a small apartment or something it'll be only around $2,000 or so.
After you've been through a bed bug infestation you would be paranoid of buying second-hand furniture too, you don't know if it's infested with bedbugs, bedbug eggs are the sort of shit you can't see with your naked eye.
Seems really stupid to risk an infestation into your home just so you could save that $200. When you get an infestation you end up having to throw out half your shit anyway trying to eradicate the problem.
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Repertoire89 said: As far as bed bugs and roaches go, youre paranoid. Ive dealt with infestations.
Hah. Then you would know bed bugs are practically impossible to get rid of yourself, the only way to successfully eradicate them is to have your home professionally heat-treated which costs thousands of dollars. I'm talking in the $5,000 to $10,000 range, depending on the size of your home. Maybe if you live in a small apartment or something it'll be only around $2,000 or so.
After you've been through a bed bug infestation you would be paranoid of buying second-hand furniture too, you don't know if it's infested with bedbugs.
Seems really stupid to risk an infestation into your home just so you could save that $200. When you get an infestation you end up having to throw out half your shit anyway trying to eradicate the problem.
Werd, how many people have bed bugs? You can inspect something before bringing it into your house.
The costs accumulate with everything you buy.
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Umm, depending on where you live, it can be a lot. Some cities like NYC and Philadelphia are literally infested with them, and the city has made multiple warnings about bedbug outbreaks. Hotels get them all the time for a reason.
Bed bug eggs can't be seen with the naked eye, hence why it's so risky to buy secondhand furniture from a person you don't know.
Again, if that's what you want to do, then by all means you do that. It seems too risky to me and I would never suggest it. If you want to buy clothes or harnesses and things like that secondhand that's fine, because those can be sterilized and put in the dryer. But furniture you can't heat it before you bring into the home. Too risky.
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Gross, another reason not to live in the big city. I havent dealt with bedbug infestations, but various others with undue frequency 
We're going to have to come back to this in 10yrs and pitch our babies in a wrestling match to settle the issue
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I have two things to say to you:
1. Creating a life is NOT equal to taking one. That's extremely dumb to say. 2. Learn how to fuck a girl in her asshole. You can't get her pregnant that way. I only fuck girls in the ass. I will fuck a girl in the pussy when I know I want to be with her for my whole life.
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Repertoire89 said: Gross, another reason not to live in the big city. I havent dealt with bedbug infestations, but various others with undue frequency 
Yeah, I've had some other infestations in the past, like mice and other types of bugs... none of them are as vicious or as bad as bedbugs. Because mice you can easily get rid of by simply setting a few traps or spreading some poison around. Mice are smart, they see a few of their friends dying, and they get the hell out of there.
Bed bugs on the other hand, you will work for months sterilizing and spraying and they never ever go away. The only way to kill them is to have your entire house heat-treated to over 140 degrees in every crack, crevice, and corner. And it's a very expensive and costly procedure. A lot of people just give up and end up just throwing away everything they have and moving someplace new and starting fresh.
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We're going to have to come back to this in 10yrs and pitch our babies in a wrestling match to settle the issue
Done and done.
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Ive heard that about bedbugs
Id probably go for something like Siegfried or Lagertha, maybe I'll throw in Bennosuke for a middle name
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All this arguing on baby stuff going on I guess I'll just share some perspective as a mom. I think in total for our sons stuff as a newborn I spent....
-$150 for car seat/stroller combo -$200 for crib and mattress (IKEA ya'll) -$50 for pack n play pen -$50 for high chair -$50 for bottles -$20 for diaper bag and changing pad -$40 for blankets and receiving blankets -$0 for clothes as we got a ton from the baby shower until age 1. You only need really 2-3 onsies for each periodic age (1-3months, 4-6months, etc.) My son was pretty much only in a diaper for his first year. -$20 medicine bag -$20 for bath stuff (we had a giant bottle of johnsons baby shampoo that lasted a whole year) -$30ish for nipple pads -$15 breast feeding bra -$5 for vaseline which was nipple cream and for his circumsion, as well as for rashes and his umbilical cord.
We got a free breast pump from the hospital, but it was manual. We got free formula from WIC. But formula could easily cost you $100+ a month. We got Medicaid for our son so free healthcare too.
Monthly stuff was about $80-$100 worth of diapers. $30-$40 worth of wipes. And diaper rash cream if needed. Medicine for fevers ,etc if needed. $40 a year for winter coat and boots.
We bought toys from thrift stores or as gifts.
Our biggest financial things were normal rent, electric, gas, etc. We had awesome support from family in crisis situations so we were really lucky from that. Gov't aids helps out tremendously in my opinion. My son didnt seem that expensive but if we didnt have medical for him or WIC for formula and food it would have been extremely hard.
You do not need alot to take care of a baby, but you do need essentials. You dont need a changing station, you just need a pad which you can get with the diaper bag. You dont need a ton of toys, and we just got them from the thrift store and sanitized them. He grew out of stuff so fast, and the same with clothes. Walmart has really cheap clothes while they are growing up too. I never got a baby harness or fancy feeding pillow. Although next time around I will def get one of those pillows. Hecks yes.
That was normal until about age 3. After age 3 we really needed mostly clothes and food. Clothes only once a year, about $100. The expenses died down more.
But now he is almost 9 and he gets new clothes twice a year bc he is growing so fast. About $300 a year. Food is the biggest expense for him monthly. If we put him into sports there would be that cost, etc.
I would guess as a teenager the same would be with clothes twice a year and more expensive. Maybe $500 a year. And food pretty much doubling. And more expensive interests.
As a young teen my mom received child support for $300 total for 3 kids a month. We were on food stamps and aid. My mom worked all the time and was barely home. Our apartment was quite shit and in a ghetto area but not super bad. When she remarried a marine we were given a better life bc of military allowances. We werent living spectacular but we had what we needed with splurging on holidays.
Section 8 has waits for years on the list and the places you get depend on where you live. Closer to cities will get you crappier section 8 housing. But that was in North Carolina and Virginia near the coasts. Daycare is also very expensive but you can get help and tax credits for those. But we never wanted our kid in daycare. You also get over $4k EIC tax for being low income with a child, more for more kids, each year under $36k gross income (I think thats the correct number). Also grants to help you in college. You will get grants until a Bachelors degree as long as you dont muck up grades. And you can also take out school loans, which sucks but I did bc I needed to work less to focus and use the money on monthly expenses like rent, etc. A gamble I really hope pays off.
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Many apologies. *apology bow*
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I have two things to say to you:
1. Creating a life is NOT equal to taking one. That's extremely dumb to say. 2. Learn how to fuck a girl in her asshole. You can't get her pregnant that way. I only fuck girls in the ass. I will fuck a girl in the pussy when I know I want to be with her for my whole life.
Creating a life and not giving a fuck about it and not loving it and letting it grow up emotionally fucked is still pretty fucking bad. Its a lifelong decision and not many people realise this. So many girls think OMG ITS GOING TO MAKE EVERYTHING BETTER AND HE WILL LOVE ME EVEN MORE. Then they end up single mum, miserable and unable to care for themselves or the children. They grow to resent there child and proceed to fuck it up aswell.
Bumhole is for shitting only. Dick doesnt go where shits go. Fuckin gross as fuck.
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I lived there when I was in my teens. a friend of mine owned a couple of homes that were paid for under section 8, they were nice, modest suburban homes, well cared for by another friend of mine. the 3 of us were roomies at one point and we abducted the guy which is how we met.
Must be different based on the region I guess, in the city you aren't going to get to live in a nice neighborhood under Section 8.
section 8 isnt defined by regions areas or any of that shit, it's a means of payment but I believe you're confusing slumlord and shitty housing authority property for section 8 housing. in my town the housing authority has some fairly strict rules. they arent slums or ghetto, they're little quadruplexes. the county I work in, I actually became familiar with their housing authority properties and saw there were 4 well maintained locations and one where they appeared to send the miscreants, a place with the same rules as the other properties but it's not as strictly enforced. it's where they allow the ones they know are going to be a problem to live in order to allow the ones that are legitimately trying to do it right to live in peace. I've replaced a lot of glass and fixed a lot of doors on the hill. only a little in other places
under section 8, any landlord can lease his place as a section 8 rental, they have criteria that has to be met and while it cant be strictly enforced it provides some peace of mind to all but the shittiest. they also tend to be the ones that seek the shittiest places out for rent to begin with because they want to surround themselves with the ghetto mentality
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Crystal G said: Haha..... Maybe you should look at the difference between a $50 stroller and a $200 one, it's easy to see why the $200 stroller costs $200.
Here's a $20 stroller from Target, you can tell this thing is really cheap, probably doesn't carry over 10lbs and will probably fall apart pretty easily
http://target.scene7.com/is/image/Target/17236219?wid=3000&hei=3000&qlt=70&fmt=pjpeg
Here's a $60 stroller from Target, looks a little better and more durable, but again this is just a stroller and nothing else, it doesn't convert into a car seat or anything.
If you try to save all this money buying a cheap stroller only to have to spend more money to buy a car seat on top of that, then you're not really saving any money are you?
http://target.scene7.com/is/image/Target/50183558?wid=3000&hei=3000&qlt=70&fmt=pjpeg
Compare this with a $279 stroller that converts into a car seat and a bassinet.
There's a reason $300 strollers come with the price tag attached. You don't want to have to wake the baby up every time you want to move the baby from the car to the stroller. If you have to spend time shushing a crying baby every time you want to go somewhere, then you're really not saving anything in money in the long run, are you?
http://target.scene7.com/is/image/Target/15089610?wid=3000&hei=3000&qlt=70&fmt=pjpeg
I used a stroller as little as possible with my kids, my kids stayed in my arms in public, it makes it harder to ignore them and their needs when they're in your arms or holding your hand. to me a $20 stroller is as useful as a $300 one because it's a place to hold the kids stuff
my kids were never fussy when it came to being shuffled around and I honestly believe it's because I did hold them so much, I never saw it as a chore to get them in and out of the car and never once left them in a car even if it was just to buy a coke or pay for gas, they always went in with me
I was afraid they'd steal the car
now that they're in their teens, I give them the choice to stay or go
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pachoo said: All this arguing on baby stuff going on I guess I'll just share some perspective as a mom. I think in total for our sons stuff as a newborn I spent....
what the hell... you got pregnant and didnt invite me?
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Daycare is also very expensive but you can get help and tax credits for those.
I know this sounds weird but the town I live in provides free daycare to preschool kids, no charge to the parents. I never made use of it because I didnt feel I had a need but it was available if I ever needed it.
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trees said: Do you think you'll ever be a mum some day?
I bet someday she will and carry on the spirit of Crystal G
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I can understand where the OP is coming from, though, perhaps he had a recent experience that made his rant less coherent. Teenage pregnancy and pregnancy in general is a massive problem in the UK. Everyone breeds like rabbits and they care about nothing else. These people are almost always on benefits and it's well known they do NOT actually want to work when given the chance (add their benefits together... probably equals a part-time job, even more)
They are a plague. Not nice people, unhealthy, little regard for anything not involving themselves (yes even the kids). Usually love alcohol and/or drugs. I live in a decent area but... take a 10 minute walk and you'll feel like you are in the Trainspotting 
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lifeiswhatyoumake said: @Paradigm Shift:
I have two things to say to you:
1. Creating a life is NOT equal to taking one. That's extremely dumb to say. 2. Learn how to fuck a girl in her asshole. You can't get her pregnant that way. I only fuck girls in the ass. I will fuck a girl in the pussy when I know I want to be with her for my whole life.
Creating a life and not giving a fuck about it and not loving it and letting it grow up emotionally fucked is still pretty fucking bad. Its a lifelong decision and not many people realise this. So many girls think OMG ITS GOING TO MAKE EVERYTHING BETTER AND HE WILL LOVE ME EVEN MORE. Then they end up single mum, miserable and unable to care for themselves or the children. They grow to resent there child and proceed to fuck it up aswell.
Bumhole is for shitting only. Dick doesnt go where shits go. Fuckin gross as fuck.
Yes, some single moms might grow up to resent their kid and not loving it, but NOT EVERY time. Even the kids that grow up in a horrible situation with no dad and an evil mom can grow up to help the world.
On the other hand, EVERY time some one is killed they lose their chance to help the world and make it a better place. I hope you see how taking a life and making one are not equal now.
As for anal, it's only gross if you don't think about how intelligent an action it really is if you don't want to get some one pregnant. Have fun paying child support, bruh. Also a lot of chicks are totally into it, either for intelligent reasons, pleasure, or both.
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specialpeopleclub said: Women are terrible at picking good men.
Get it together women.
Perhaps they are so terrible at picking good because a majority of men are by default, terrible. That seems to be what you are implying anyway. 
No, I'm saying women choose the men they have children with poorly
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OP how can you start such a shit thread and not come back to defend your points? No wonder women don't like you, I wouldn't fuck you either with all that talk and no follow through.
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what the hell... you got pregnant and didnt invite me?

Funny/creeper story though, I worked as a delivery person at a bar while I was pregnant and there was this customer who really wanted to see the birth of my child. He went on for a lonnnnnnng time with that story about the beauty of birth and stuff. I couldn't even stop him because it was just so hilarious to me, and also he was just probably in awe of the beauty of life while being drunk at the time because he cried a bit. At the end, I was like "Sorry, but no."
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I know this sounds weird but the town I live in provides free daycare to preschool kids, no charge to the parents. I never made use of it because I didnt feel I had a need but it was available if I ever needed it.
That is so awesome! There were some here but only through the low income paperwork, which could take months. You would essentially lose your job if you couldn't find stable daycare and would eventually just have to chose between your kid or working. And not every one of those places were awesome and they can be really overflowing with kids in Northern Virginia. But it can help those in situations where child care is needed. And after awhile with mothers you can start to gain friendships for play dates and watching each other's kids for free.
But we just decided among ourselves we were going to keep one of us parents home with our son. It was just our preference and we worked hard to uphold it but I don't regret it. Now that he is getting older it is getting easier. Also it was awesome seeing things were available if needed like you said. There were things I felt not taking advantage of bc of the thought someone would need it more than me. In a populated area, that weighed heavily in my decisions.
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Prisoner#1 said: I used a stroller as little as possible with my kids, my kids stayed in my arms in public, it makes it harder to ignore them and their needs when they're in your arms or holding your hand. to me a $20 stroller is as useful as a $300 one because it's a place to hold the kids stuff
my kids were never fussy when it came to being shuffled around and I honestly believe it's because I did hold them so much, I never saw it as a chore to get them in and out of the car and never once left them in a car even if it was just to buy a coke or pay for gas, they always went in with me
I was afraid they'd steal the car
now that they're in their teens, I give them the choice to stay or go
Don't your arms start to get tired after you're holding your kid for more than 10 minutes straight? I mean, carrying 20lbs really starts to make your arms sore after a few minutes. Do you use one of those body wraps or harnesses or something?
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Nah, you just gain more muscles for it. My son was carried a ton by us or we made him walk... or he just ran and we chased him hah. They really arent that heavy.
We usually used strollers like at like zoos, the mall, etc. Or just going out for a walk. It is a pain in the butt to get them out for everything. Same with lugging the car seat into stores.
I have never used a harness or wrap. But I know a ton of people who do.
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