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Duncan Rowhl
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redgreenvines said: Duncan; as polite as your words may be, you do not represent we, as we know it. and I do know a lot about meditation, and thought of other kinds as well. and it has nothing to do with death, nirvana, or any other "mara" unless you introduce it, usually nothing is added.
'We' was assigned to others who may too question your abilities in meditation when you delivered an expression of it in an aggressive manner, which stood as an oxymoron.
The person who experiences an experience decides what it means to them and many people do indeed regard metaphysical meditation to be akin to the 'death' experience by default, but your own perspective is appreciated.
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I guess "seek and ye shall find" still applies, If you seek death, you will find it.
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Re: Filling the Void [Re: sudly]
#23978061 - 01/03/17 06:46 AM (7 years, 27 days ago) |
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Realise the Self.
The world is internal, the world is your being.
If your being is love, the world is love, and loves you, with its music, its landscapes, its people, its food, its sensations, etc.
Self-realisation = paradise.
-------------------- Hostile humankind Can't you see you're fucking blind?
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Stop reacting to what is in front of you.
It is what is inside you, simultaneously, as being what is in front of you.
Realise the Self and the music = That, with all the mystery of Love.
"The astrolabe of the mysteries of God is Love."
-------------------- Hostile humankind Can't you see you're fucking blind?
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Duncan Rowhl
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redgreenvines said: I guess "seek and ye shall find" still applies, If you seek death, you will find it.
First establishing what 'death' is to oneself.
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I think you are using 'one', and 'we', in order to appear authoritative.
I question the sanity in your obsession with death and any attempt you may have to convince others in the wisdom of your death obsession.
"the veil" of death has been used as a disguise for much malarkey, and chicanery, from seances to hundreds of movies about "the living dead" - zombies - and Mexican social engineering in the "day of the dead" it harks back to ignorant religious practices and sacrifices, and to childhood fears of "the wolf eating you up if you don't go to sleep right now".
People are easily susceptible to this, and when erudite members entertain ideas they become more attractive to less articulate members.
Because of this impact on others I recommend you find a better interest than death.
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redgreenvines said: I think you are using 'one', and 'we', in order to appear authoritative.
I question the sanity in your obsession with death and any attempt you may have to convince others in the wisdom of your death obsession.
"the veil" of death has been used as a disguise for much malarkey, and chicanery, from seances to hundreds of movies about "the living dead" - zombies - and Mexican social engineering in the "day of the dead" it harks back to ignorant religious practices and sacrifices, and to childhood fears of "the wolf eating you up if you don't go to sleep right now".
People are easily susceptible to this, and when erudite members entertain ideas they become more attractive to less articulate members.
Because of this impact on others I recommend you find a better interest than death.
You are expressing once again your aggression noted earlier.
'Death' to many means the start of something profoundly and positively metaphysical and so any deeply invested interests will be readily and widely shared.
'We' and 'us' are selfless terms which take into regard humanity as a joined collective. This is a pleasing revelation which comes about after centering oneself to become free from needless aggression.
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LunarEclipse
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redgreenvines said: I think you are using 'one', and 'we', in order to appear authoritative.
I question the sanity in your obsession with death and any attempt you may have to convince others in the wisdom of your death obsession.
"the veil" of death has been used as a disguise for much malarkey, and chicanery, from seances to hundreds of movies about "the living dead" - zombies - and Mexican social engineering in the "day of the dead" it harks back to ignorant religious practices and sacrifices, and to childhood fears of "the wolf eating you up if you don't go to sleep right now".
People are easily susceptible to this, and when erudite members entertain ideas they become more attractive to less articulate members.
Because of this impact on others I recommend you find a better interest than death.
You are expressing once again your aggression noted earlier.
'Death' to many means the start of something profoundly and positively metaphysical and so any deeply invested interests will be readily and widely shared.
'We' and 'us' are selfless terms which take into regard humanity as a joined collective. This is a pleasing revelation which comes about after centering oneself to become free from needless aggression.
Passive aggressive, much?
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Out of control, I think
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redgreenvines said: Out of control, I think
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Lunar; I am legally deaf, I don't have the sound on with my computer and use close caption while watching netflix; so it just looks like some old hippies at any random concert - but I am sure it is a relevant you tube reference, maybe if you post a video you could snip in the important lyrics. I don't get half the jokes that roll around here due to not being hip to the sound.
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liquidlounge said: You're a provocateur.
Your persisting torment is but a product of your own hands.
Everyone who disagrees with you is angry.
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liquidlounge said: Everyone who disagrees with you is angry.
You are but a burden to yourself if you choose to begin another day feeling angry.
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liquidlounge said: You're a provocateur.
Your persisting torment is but a product of your own hands.
Everyone who disagrees with you is angry.
You are but a burden to yourself if you choose to begin another day feeling angry.
I don't feel angry today, but often times it's difficult not being angry when you see how this world and its life works out.
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Re: Filling the Void [Re: Memories]
#23978703 - 01/03/17 12:31 PM (7 years, 27 days ago) |
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Memories said: It's been a while since I've posted here. Hope some familiar faces will be able to chime in.
How many of you relate to feeling a sort of ever present void inside of you, typically stemming from a general dissatisfaction with life and the lack of any sort of concrete meaning or purpose on how, or even why, one should continue living?
I was sober for over a year, and i was able to find some relatively effective distractions in the forms of art, exercise, and meaningful social interaction, but even with these tools, there always seems to be that emptiness inside of me.
Lately i feel like i've been coming back to the idea of death anxiety being the primary human motivator, and the diverse actions we engage in primarily serving the purpose of distracting us from the ultimate fate we will all share.
The 'sweet spot' is achieving the point where there is no regret of the past and no anxiety (for future). You've already identified you have identified with death anxiety and so, this is clearly a major player in the offset of your psyche. That's the first hurdle to tackle.
Even someone 'living in the moment' without deeply entrenched philosophies regarding death, benefit significantly just by dedicating concern only to what they are doing in the present moment.
I've found that I can complete huge, valuable projects as a result of dedicating time to the moment to complete each piece of work, thinking about that task and that only, rather than what's next.
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liquidlounge said: I don't feel angry today, but often times it's difficult not being angry when you see how this world and its life works out.
You can't keep projecting anger onto the world because you've been dealt some bad cards, lest the bad cards keep coming.
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The world is objects arising and falling in awareness. The awareness is not affected by the world, not affected by thoughts, not affected by suffering. Body and mind also arise as objects in awareness. The 'void' is also an object arising in awareness. It's not very spiritual or mystical, it is your experience right now. The most plain and obvious. You are only awareness, just like a movie is only screen. A modulation of imagery upon the blank colorless space of the screen. Awareness is just like that, empty and colorless. So empty and so colorless and so silent that all the world can play upon it.

The only way out, is in.
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Re: Filling the Void [Re: Tmethyl]
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Tmethyl said: The only way out, is in.
A grand and true finishing line.
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