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Offlinehopeless
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Caapi microdosing for Anxiety/Depression...
    #23968771 - 12/30/16 05:58 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Do you have any experiences with Caapi microdosing for treating mental issues such as anxiety, panic attacks and depression ? I am currently in a terrible mental state when i will need to take some pharmaceutical pills again, but i would rather go some natural way with minimal side effects if possible.

Do you think that caapi could potentilly increase my anxiety or even worsening depression ? For example, I tried microdosing with shrooms and even on lowest dose my anxiety went through the roof. Are there potentially any side effects with caapi microdoses taken on a daily baisis? From pharma drugs, I tried MAOIs like moclobemide and Nardil and both cause insomnia besides other quite serious side effects (especially with Nardil).

Recently i got prescribed mianserine but i have not started taking it yet and i have not decided if i want to start with ADs or rather go with someting more natural like this. I have problably tried every possible AD on earth and every one brings side effects with almost none or minimal profit for anxiety or depression. I dont have much expectations from microdosing but I still planning to undergo Aya ceremony in the near future so this is probably another reason to stay away from antidepressants.

I saw some caapi TA alcohol extract tinctures which seems like most suitable for this purpose, but i have not found any information about dosing or if taking it for those problems is even good idea.

Please, if you have any experiences let me know. thanks!


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Re: Caapi microdosing for Anxiety/Depression... [Re: hopeless]
    #23968830 - 12/30/16 06:22 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Posting as im interested in replies  :smile: i have some caapi vine but didn't know if was any use for this.

When ive had panic attacks, which are rare, or anxiety, the only thing ive tried that has helped me is diazepam. Or another benzo. But i cant be taking that a lot, nor will gps prescribe it :shrug: i try to avoid meds too.

I have increased certain herbal teas i drink daily, which over time i think have helped reduce them.
I have skullcap before bed daily, amongst others. Teas can help.


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Re: Caapi microdosing for Anxiety/Depression... [Re: Spellbound]
    #23968840 - 12/30/16 06:27 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

No experience but this is interesting. It's such a pity there is hardly any research on these amazing natural medicines. I tried microdosing on shrooms but I kept tripping slightly so I stopped


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Re: Caapi microdosing for Anxiety/Depression... [Re: thehighking]
    #23970499 - 12/31/16 11:13 AM (7 years, 30 days ago)

I think Dennis Mckenna is probably the worlds leading expert on this topic.  :thumbup:

I think that they typically recommend a full blown ayahuasca trip, more than microdosing, but in True Hallucinations I believe that the group (including Dennis) were smoking the vine.:stoned:

http://www.ayahuasca.com/spirit/ayahuasca-neurogenesis-and-depression/

Here's a relevant link. :smile:


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Re: Caapi microdosing for Anxiety/Depression... [Re: hopeless]
    #23976319 - 01/02/17 02:11 PM (7 years, 28 days ago)

I've been taking harmine/harmaline/tetrahydroharmine daily for about the last year. I did't have a particular reason for taking it, I just naturally fell into the rhythm. I mostly smoke the freebase 2-10mg per hit and occasionally take it in capsules of 50-100mg. I use both b.caapi and syrian rue as my source. I've not noticed any negative mental or physical side effects. Give it a try, the risk of harm is low I think, based off my person experience.

I highly recommend you extract to a freebase. The low cost of syrian rue and it's effectiveness is very comparable to b.caapi. I recommend you work with both.


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Re: Caapi microdosing for Anxiety/Depression... [Re: TheHumungus]
    #23976480 - 01/02/17 03:11 PM (7 years, 28 days ago)

:whathesaid:

I too was going to reccomend rue. Caapi can be expensive and doesn't seem convenient to micro dose.

Rue has some of the same stuff but it much cheaper. You can even buy one extracted harmine/harmaline if your not tood with extractions though you will save a lot of $ extracting it yourself.

The only downside is MAOI's interact with a lot of other drugs so you must be careful.

The harmalas are a great subtle anti depressant though and my 3rd favorite natural one next to kratom and cannabis.


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Re: Caapi microdosing for Anxiety/Depression... [Re: hopeless]
    #27495890 - 10/07/21 10:41 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)



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