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OfflineDontEatMe
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Psi. Cyanescens Experts Please Help Identify New Find PNW
    #23968224 - 12/30/16 01:58 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Hello Friends!
  I am very new to Mycology (one day study so far ) and would love some assistance identifying a new find in the PNW. That being said please bare with my lack of knowledge of terminology and descriptive wordage.

  After noticing some bodies around the garden I became interested in identifying them. Luckily I was able to find a copy of Mushrooms Demystified by David Arora on the book shelf to help in my search for answers. Belongs to my relative.  Glad I found it. :smile:

First some info on location and environment.
- PNW
- Mountain Elevation.
- Shady Garden on a 30 deg grade.
- Little to no direct sunlight this time of year. Especially with the rain.
- Average temp this time of year 55 Deg. F.
- Average rain and humidity this time of year. Rainy Season.
- Garden is mulched with local county collected and produced compost, mainly for shrubs and low light plants, ivy's, ferns, low light flowers.
- Mulch is very woody and healthy. Often supplemented with compost-able food scraps, coffee, crushed egg shells, anything the worms like to eat.
- Very wet being the rainy season. The rest of the year is very dry.

Second, some info on the specimens found.
- 2 distinct types found. Both sharing similar Psilocybe characteristics.
- One type has caramel wavy caps with the occasional lightened patches in the center. White Stipes. No annulus. Bruises dark blue green on stipes, bruises less prominent on caps. Purple Brown spore Print. No orange/red/bright Stipe or Cap colors. Not found on logs but in mycelium clumps in the mulch. 
- The other has much lighter cream caps, not as wavy, smaller in overall size, same spore prints and bruising characteristics. Less prevalent in the garden but near the caramel examples. ( I assume they are partly dry, which may cause the lighter cap color) No orange/red/bright Stipe or Cap colors. Not found on logs but in mycelium clumps in the mulch.

  So I am leaning on the great community to help me take my identification from 90% to 110% PNW Psilocybe Cyanescens. There are a few other species I did not bother to describe (will provide photos) as I do not think they are edible. Pretty but not edible.

From my Limited research they fit the description of Psilocybe Cyanescens.
-Cream and Caramel Color Caps, Flatter while young and wavy as they mature. Cream when drying. The Cream caps bruise Bluer than the caramel ones.
-White Stipes bruising Blue Green. No Annulus. Slight curves.
-Purple Brown Spore Print. I do not own a microscope to identify spore or gill structure.

From my research they are not Galerina. As they do not fit these descriptors.
- Rusty Annulus
- Rusty Spore Print
- Viscid or Moist Cap
- Occurring on logs or fallen wood.


My questions for you great people are..

1. Am I correct in my identification of Psilocybe Cyanescens?
2. If my spore print paper becomes wet. Can I dry it and still have viable spore to save for future inoculation?
3. Am I totally wrong in my assumptions, and should I just stop what I'm doing before I do something stupid?

Photos were taken with an iPhone 6. Macro is the same phone but with a drop of water on the camera lens. I know the lighting is horrific. Im not as good a photographer and I am and engineer. I will attempt to take better photos here shortly. Please request photos if you need more specific shots. Thanks again!

Thank you all for any assistance!



































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Re: Psi. Cyanescens Experts Please Help Identify New Find PNW [Re: DontEatMe]
    #23968242 - 12/30/16 02:11 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Seems to me to be cyans for sure man, nice find


possibly allenii maybe as well? unsure on that one


Edited by bubbs (12/30/16 02:12 PM)


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Re: Psi. Cyanescens Experts Please Help Identify New Find PNW [Re: bubbs]
    #23968253 - 12/30/16 02:19 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

:youthemandawg:


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Re: Psi. Cyanescens Experts Please Help Identify New Find PNW [Re: bubbs]
    #23968318 - 12/30/16 02:48 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

bubbs said:
Seems to me to be cyans for sure man, nice find


possibly allenii maybe as well? unsure on that one






Thank you bubbs for the quick reply.

I have not researched Psi Allenii. I will now.

bubbs. Do you think spore prints will be viable once the print paper dries? I would like to ensure my need to be vigilant next season.

I am posting patch photos now. Along with the other species I have found. Some of these are very waterlogged and on the older side.

I noticed the fruits weeks ago and thought nothing of it, but the dog started sniffing them. I wish I would have been inquisitive earlier as there are some pretty big ones recently ruined by rain. I decided I would get a good answer on toxicity from you guys in case I needed to pull them. Lets say they will be "removed for public safety".


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Re: Psi. Cyanescens Experts Please Help Identify New Find PNW [Re: DontEatMe]
    #23968339 - 12/30/16 02:54 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Psilocybe cyanescens. Wow, did you just find them? like, in the last few days?


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Re: Psi. Cyanescens Experts Please Help Identify New Find PNW [Re: DontEatMe]
    #23968420 - 12/30/16 03:19 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Patch Pics.
These are the ones I believe are no megusta.



Here is the patch now. I will post a followup of the pick once printed.



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Re: Psi. Cyanescens Experts Please Help Identify New Find PNW [Re: ambc]
    #23968432 - 12/30/16 03:23 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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ambc said:
Psilocybe cyanescens. Wow, did you just find them? like, in the last few days?




I did. This garden seems really healthy fungi wise. Hopefully there will be more fruiting if the rain comes back.  Luckily they are all "similar".



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Re: Psi. Cyanescens Experts Please Help Identify New Find PNW [Re: DontEatMe]
    #23968658 - 12/30/16 05:08 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Yup P. Cyanescens for sure. Nice late find, I'm impressed.


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|-------------------[Ps. Azurescens]------------------------------------------[Ps. Semilanceata]--------------------------------------------[Ps. Allenii]------------------------|


|--------------[Ps. Ovoideocystidiata]------------------------------------------[Ps. Stuntzii]--------------------------------------------[Ps. Baeocystis]----------------------|


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