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How do you live frugally?
    #23968055 - 12/30/16 12:34 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Looking at taking steps toward living on less/homesteading but sometimes its hard to pick a place to start.

Any suggestions?


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Re: How do you live frugally? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #23968077 - 12/30/16 12:42 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Well my only bill is car insurance. I spent a lot of time setting up life so I don't have to work all day every day, I only need to make about $100+ a month to be fine.
I did this by putting up signs around town, looking for work on someones property. Eventually a guy contacted me and said needed a full time employee to help him keep up with his property and finish up all his half-done projects.

Since I live in the property I have no rent, electric, etc.
And anytime I owe him money I just work it off. Some days I work 1 hour, some days I work 10 hours, no schedule set.
Can take any day off without an issue.


I'd look for stuff like that, like a farm hand deal, where you live on the property and work off any owed money.
It makes life so stress free.


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Re: How do you live frugally? [Re: Tmethyl]
    #23970123 - 12/31/16 08:09 AM (7 years, 30 days ago)

Man that does sound like a sweet setup.

I would be more interested in doing it myself, growing my own food, building my own house, maybe investing in a solar setup/rain collection setup. Stuff of that nature. That is tempting though


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Re: How do you live frugally? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #23970430 - 12/31/16 10:45 AM (7 years, 30 days ago)

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Man that does sound like a sweet setup.

I would be more interested in doing it myself, growing my own food, building my own house, maybe investing in a solar setup/rain collection setup. Stuff of that nature. That is tempting though




Maybe you should start with something inexpensive yet easy.  For example, sprouts.  Nutritious as well.  Basically the price of the seeds plus some mason jars plus cheesecloth or screen.  Even use old T shirts, well you get the idea.

Rain water isn't very healthy to drink, most places anyway. 

Check out Backwoods Solar they can send you a free catalog all kinds of good system information and many many products.  Soon into the investigation you realize how much $$ a lot of it will cost.

I'm planning on doing a pumping system with solar and a submersible pump in my shallow well at one property.  It's all piped with a vertical rise up the hill to "the barn".  Once I get all the deer fencing done, I will be installing deer fencing and getting some chickens and ducks with a pond up above as well.  There is a big difference between being self sufficient and living frugally.  The good news is that often one can figure out cheaper alternatives.

For example, I'll be doing some solar thermal to a hot tub, and also wood fired to same.  Have like 4 extra water heaters ready to create the system, after that it's piping and a solar powered/battery powered little circ pump.

That's the plan anyway.


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Re: How do you live frugally? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #23971068 - 12/31/16 02:54 PM (7 years, 30 days ago)

Sprouts for eating myself? Had never heard of that. I was just reading about sprouting grains to feed chickens more efficiently.

Whats wrong with rain water? Other than the fact that its distilled/mineral free. You'd think all water would be fucked in that case, things only get worse here on the ground. Genuinely curious as there must be a way to filter/remineralize to solve such problems. Worth a thought anyway


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Re: How do you live frugally? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #23971136 - 12/31/16 03:17 PM (7 years, 30 days ago)

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Sprouts for eating myself? Had never heard of that. I was just reading about sprouting grains to feed chickens more efficiently.

Whats wrong with rain water? Other than the fact that its distilled/mineral free. You'd think all water would be fucked in that case, things only get worse here on the ground. Genuinely curious as there must be a way to filter/remineralize to solve such problems. Worth a thought anyway




It's amazing, I think alfalfa sprouts have something like 30% protein?  They sell them at the store.  Bean sprouts are good eating too.  Lentils, anything is good to sprout before eating.  You can just let them sprout a little and then make soup, it's good to let the seed grow and start producing life before eating.  The fresh alfalfa sprouts, you can eat a shit ton of them and they are so good for you.  So yes to sprouting.

The air contains too many toxins nowadays to just drink the rain water.  Of course you can filter with an RO filter by pumping it through, the brine is a waste product of that mineral removal.  It's great to end up with maybe 10 ppm solids or ideally less of water to then add fertilizer to for plants.  Remineralizing in effect as you describe.  pH is always important in this situation.  Adding a good salt such as himalayan pink to your RO water is a good way to go to get good minerals.


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Re: How do you live frugally? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #23973245 - 01/01/17 02:52 PM (7 years, 29 days ago)

Im actually myself acting towards living a simpler life and sprouting, eating berbs/beans too. Alfafa, lentils, fenugreek. Very nutritive, cheap, healthy.

I buy most of my clothes in thriftshop, plain t-shirts for 50 cents...


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Re: How do you live frugally? [Re: Martinsapin]
    #23973277 - 01/01/17 03:07 PM (7 years, 29 days ago)

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Im actually myself acting towards living a simpler life and sprouting, eating berbs/beans too. Alfafa, lentils, fenugreek. Very nutritive, cheap, healthy.

I buy most of my clothes in thriftshop, plain t-shirts for 50 cents...




Nice.  Simple really is better, I wish I had embraced that in later years instead of this stupid accumulation.  Having a million dollars doesn't make you happier, it just makes you have more stuff to keep track of.  I'm "working" towards the less is more strategy, if that makes any sense at all...


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Re: How do you live frugally? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #23988606 - 01/07/17 06:02 AM (7 years, 23 days ago)

Dr Rhonda Patrick on Joe Rogan talks about sprouts a lot, they are incredibly healthy and I highly recommend listening to those podcasts that she is featured on.


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Re: How do you live frugally? [Re: Get Shwifty]
    #24005257 - 01/12/17 07:15 PM (7 years, 18 days ago)

Houses can be a money trap. Cars are one area I've been able to save tremendously on. I've been buying disposable ones. Look long and hard for a car that will last at least 3 yrs put liability only on it. Scrap if repairs are high or wrecked look for another. You do need one vehicle that is reliable though.


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Re: How do you live frugally? [Re: Quadman]
    #24068651 - 02/05/17 09:01 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

after more reading/thinking it through I'd say its silly to say rainwater isn't healthy to drink.

Sure as hell isn't getting any cleaner by touching the ground anyway. :shrug:


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Re: How do you live frugally? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #24068891 - 02/05/17 11:50 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Eat whole foods. Eat peanuts. Buy water gallons vs small bottles.x  Del taco bean rice cheese burrito 89c . Buy meat in bulk then freeze In individual meals.  Freeze bread , butter, milks, juices, almost anything perishable . Except eggs. . Eat eggs. Try with water and heavy cream to give it that special touch. Buy weed from lower shelf and hold in hits . Fill gas tank only ten at a time to not over drive for no reason . Buy half pints vs packs of beer, maruchan ramen 4 meals for 1.00.  Bag of potatoes. Use change to avoid getting more change when buying. Exercise or something instead of going to the store or buying morning coffee. Feed animals dry food from Costco. Buy higher quality things that last longer . Buy chips and snacks from 99 c store occasionally in bulk to stash . Put things on let go . Work part time. Eat before shopping . Eat apples , grow your own chilies 
Chop up lettuces and make salad to eat for the next few days instead of buying mixed pre made mix.
Wash clothes on speed wash or quick settings . Use a space heater . eat more vegetables and filling foods . Don't order drinks from anywhere . Get drunk before going in the bar. Smoke loose leaf tobacco


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Re: How do you live frugally? [Re: MykoMyers]
    #24068911 - 02/06/17 12:10 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

I live in an area where many people have bought their own land, drilled their own well and built their own house, sandbag, strawbale, tires etc.are all approved by the POA. And many people have built a house that is at least a 1,000sq ft for under $20k, well and septic might be $8k on top of that, and you can either pay to run electricity to your property if it doesn't have it, or you can get solar panels.

Many people have in-floor radiant heat as well, where throughout the summer, solar panels are heating up water that is in pipes underneath your floor and then when winter hits, it starts to emit that heat through your floors.  I've known people who have homes with that installed in it and they went on vacation and came back in March and their house was still warm. 

You can also do this to your greenhouse to be able to manipulate it into any type of growing environment by being able to change the climate.  I've seen people in the desert growing fruit trees and shit.

Dig your greenhouse down about 6 feet and you can grow food year round because the earth retains a natural temperature of about 50-60 degrees at that depth.


I live this lifestyle, but I am not that frugal.  It just gives me the opportunity to spend money on going out to eat, food, drinks, clothes, drugs, art, shows, hotels, vacations etc.

Once you are set up like that, and you don't have bills because your electricity comes from the sun or running water, and your water is coming from a massive aquifer underneath you and your well is also unregulated.  Where you can grow your own food year round, hunt deer, elk etc and have meat for the year. And just have an extremely low property tax of like $1,200 a year.

But then you'll still find me buying expensive clothes and going out to shows and renting out executive hotel suites and giving away drugs to my homies and not thinking anything of it.


But it's all good.  I am just grateful I moved away from where I grew up because I had no idea living this way was possible.


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Re: How do you live frugally? [Re: MykoMyers]
    #24068914 - 02/06/17 12:13 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

buying in bulk and storing would be a big one for me. That and making more basic foods from scratch, like baking bread, making cheese, etc.

Digging in a greenhouse I had not considered, would be nice but I don't think it would work in my situation because its simply too swampy, it'd take on water.

don't these floors with water in them freeze in winter?


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    #24068917 - 02/06/17 12:16 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

I really want to learn more about solar power but its hard to know where to look, I always just feel like I'm being sold something instead of informed.

That and heat are a couple of the bigger bills I'd love to knock out permanently.


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Re: How do you live frugally? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #24068921 - 02/06/17 12:23 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

I just have a wood burning stove in the spot i'm staying in now temporarily


I like it.  Just have to chop some wood once in a while.


It sucks in the middle of the night when the fire has been out and it's cold in the room if the insulation isn't that good but it's still not that bad.


Solar can be expensive depending on how much you are trying to power.  But there are also ways to generate electricity if you happen to have a running stream of water on your property, I don't know the exact details but it was explained to me that the water would run and spin a turbine and people have actually been able to generate more electricity from doing that than the amount of electricity that it takes to power a house normally by paying the electric company.


edit:  Also building south facing sun rooms/greenhouses attached to the house because they will collect heat throughout the day and emit at night.  Some people may install adobe around their wood burning stove so the adobe will collect the heat and then slowly emit it throughout the night.


Keeping your greenhouse warm during cold months?  Put black barrels filled with water, same concept, the sun heats up the barrels and then the barrels emit heat. 


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Re: How do you live frugally? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #24068930 - 02/06/17 12:26 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

What's a good way to whip up some cheese


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Re: How do you live frugally? [Re: MykoMyers]
    #24068931 - 02/06/17 12:27 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: How do you live frugally? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #24068935 - 02/06/17 12:31 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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buying in bulk and storing would be a big one for me. That and making more basic foods from scratch, like baking bread, making cheese, etc.

Digging in a greenhouse I had not considered, would be nice but I don't think it would work in my situation because its simply too swampy, it'd take on water.

don't these floors with water in them freeze in winter?






No the water runs through like PVC pipes underneath the floor that have been winterized, and plus the water is always warm due to the solar panels heating it up.  Especially in areas that i'm in that have mostly sunny days year round and it doesn't get cloudy and rain often.  And people with pipes that aren't winterized, will keep a small stream of water coming out of their faucets and that doesn't allow it to freeze for whatever reason lol


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