Home | Community | Message Board

MRCA Tyroler Gluckspilze
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

Jump to first unread post Pages: < Back | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | Next >  [ show all ]
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
InvisibleKauaiOrca
Waterman

Registered: 08/12/08
Posts: 3,131
Re: Aliens [Re: CIA]
    #23978495 - 01/03/17 11:09 AM (7 years, 27 days ago)

Quote:

CIA said:
I feel like the highest form of government that represents the entire world knows about them. All leaders of all countries know about them. I personally think there's a reason why we haven't been invaded or destroyed by other beings, and also a reason we havent (been allowed to) totally destroy(ed) each other. Could it be we as earthlings with our "hearts" mesmerize these beings? Are we as a race part of something much larger in the universe? Could our collective actions perhaps influence other actions in the universe. Were these psychedelic drugs placed here for us to become one with intentionally? Did some sort of highly intelligent form of life lead to the discovery of LSD? How do these Love spreading syndicates survive thousands of freakouts a year and not get busted? Loyal heads ready and willing to go to prison to make sure the chemists keep doing their thing? Is the man (The chemists) just that dapper and smooth that they never get busted? Or is there something much greater out there protecting all of them?




Perhaps "they" are the highest form of government?


--------------------
"The universe is endless, limitless and infinite.  Any effort to define it's boundaries is an attempt to overcome ignorance.  We are physical, mental and spiritual beings ... there is no beginning and there is no end.  There is only memory.  Our repeated loss of memory experiences create the illusion of beginnings and ends.  Immortality is the ability to retain full memory through all consciousness transformations.  Loss of memory is man's greatest curse and, in very real terms, death."

-- Ancient Taoist Master


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineAuroraBorealis88
Stranger


Registered: 05/06/16
Posts: 5,871
Last seen: 5 years, 2 months
Re: Aliens [Re: CIA]
    #23978566 - 01/03/17 11:32 AM (7 years, 27 days ago)

Quote:

CIA said:
I personally think there's a reason why we haven't been invaded or destroyed by other beings




Quote:

Bumpity





Nope


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OnlineEclipse3130
Servant of the Fungi
Male User Gallery


Registered: 10/06/13
Posts: 6,221
Loc: PNW
Last seen: 7 minutes, 5 seconds
Re: Aliens [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23978672 - 01/03/17 12:14 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

In terms of "entity manifestation" and hallucinations which cause things to appear, visions of beings seen from inside of your mind to me are just Mental Projections (Tulpas). Apparitions created through the sheer will of human thought. Are not actually “entities” but may acquire a “mind of their own” once formed. May also be referred to as thoughtforms. In the case of DMT manifestations it very well could be a case of egregore.


it’s possible that many of the paranormal experiences people have, such as NDEs and alien abductions, may very well be the result of a collective consciousness thoughtform


--------------------
"In The Material World One seeks retirement and grows Old
In The Magical World One seeks Enlightenment and grows Wiser
In The Miraculous World One seeks nothing and grows Lighter
As we all tread the Homeward Path we will explore many Realms
And one day... we will all Realize that all experiences are Simply
Different ways in which The
All-That Is
Perceives Itself"


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleKauaiOrca
Waterman

Registered: 08/12/08
Posts: 3,131
Re: Aliens [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #23978686 - 01/03/17 12:21 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

The thing is, we know there are lots of different ways to communicate.  We use writing, spoken words, radio waves, digital technology and, seemingly, at times, fairly beginner level telepathy.

Whales use a type of sonar communication.  Insects leave chemical forms of communication.  Dogs communication more through smell.

It's certainly possible that ultra advanced beings use forms of communication we just can't fathom.  Perhaps it's advanced telepathy.  Maybe they can transmit images from their mind to ours without us even knowing it?  Maybe they can use dreams and altered brain wave states to communicate. 

Man's biggest mistake, for the last 10,000 years, is thinking we've gotten to a point where we "now understand how it works" when in reality, we probably don't even understand 1% of how it all works. 

Try to imagine, if the human race doesn't destroy itself and we just keep developing technology what we'll be doing in 100 years ... in 1,000 years ... in 1 million years ... in 1 billion years.

It is very likely there are species out there that have a billion years head start on us in terms of development, evolution and technology.  Try to fathom that.  Do you think in a billion years we won't find some new forms of travel and work arounds in terms of the speed of light?  Imagine what we'll be doing with genetics in 200 more years?  The possibilities are truly limitless.


--------------------
"The universe is endless, limitless and infinite.  Any effort to define it's boundaries is an attempt to overcome ignorance.  We are physical, mental and spiritual beings ... there is no beginning and there is no end.  There is only memory.  Our repeated loss of memory experiences create the illusion of beginnings and ends.  Immortality is the ability to retain full memory through all consciousness transformations.  Loss of memory is man's greatest curse and, in very real terms, death."

-- Ancient Taoist Master


Edited by KauaiOrca (01/03/17 12:23 PM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OnlineEclipse3130
Servant of the Fungi
Male User Gallery


Registered: 10/06/13
Posts: 6,221
Loc: PNW
Last seen: 7 minutes, 5 seconds
Re: Aliens [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #23978762 - 01/03/17 12:53 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

It definitely would be a lot more interesting if it was actual other life forms communicating with us individually and as a collective, why do so many people see the same things..

But then again it could very well just be the mind state of reflected purity, and out of purity anything can manifest as did our universe.

But in my beliefs, Consciousness is the fabric of existence, from which all manifestation(even the illusion of life) stems from. It would make sense to me that the hallucinations are just consciousness forming itself out of purity, an extension of its raw form: A thoughtform.

For reasons why it forms entities, preying mantis, jesters etc and why they are common amongst people - maybe those were the very first thoughtforms(tulpa) to ever exist, it would make sensw why our anscestors saw the same thing as well.

For why it's embedded in our deep historical spiritual nature, our DNA. But DMT isn't suppose to make sense.

Maybe from consciousness, arises awareness, arises thought, which takes place to form, to then manifest.

To me it's nothing more than your mind, what else would it be :lol:

Even if you are connecting with another being, you must first have a mind to do so

So whose to say your entire existence isn't just a projected form within your mind, which in itself is just a projection of consciousness. An illusion


--------------------
"In The Material World One seeks retirement and grows Old
In The Magical World One seeks Enlightenment and grows Wiser
In The Miraculous World One seeks nothing and grows Lighter
As we all tread the Homeward Path we will explore many Realms
And one day... we will all Realize that all experiences are Simply
Different ways in which The
All-That Is
Perceives Itself"


Edited by Eclipse3130 (01/03/17 01:02 PM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleKauaiOrca
Waterman

Registered: 08/12/08
Posts: 3,131
Re: Aliens [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #23978789 - 01/03/17 01:02 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

Quote:

Eclipse3130 said:
It definitely would be a lot more interesting if it was actual other life forms communicating with us individually and as a collective, why do so many people see the same things..

But then again it could very well just be the mind state of reflected purity, and out of purity anything can manifest as did our universe.

But in my beliefs, Consciousness is the fabric of existence, from which all manifestation(even the illusion of life) stems from. It would make sense to me that the hallucinations are just consciousness forming itself out of purity, an extension of its raw form: A thoughtform.

For reasons why it forms entities, preying mantis, jesters etc and why they are common amongst people - maybe those were the very first thoughtforms(tulpa) to ever exist, it would make sensw why our anscestors saw the same thing as well.

For why it's embedded in our deep historical spiritual nature, our DNA. But DMT isn't suppose to make sense.

Maybe from consciousness, arises awareness, arises thought, which takes place to form, to then manifest.

To me it's nothing more than your mind, what else would it be :lol:




Maybe our core DNA and operating system programming is built on a foundation that gives us all relatively similar source material to work with? 

Memory is an absolutely fascinating topic and frankly, we don't know much about it at all.  How exactly a 2-hour old wildabeast stand and walk and within 2 days run fast enough to keep up with the herd?  What kind of memory is needed to enable all that complex motor function so quickly?  Why do some remember past lives with remarkable accuracy and seem to bring very complex skills with them into this life?

Many mysteries we have yet to unravel.  If, however, consciousness does survive the life and death cycles, then literally the sky is the limit in terms of what kind of beings are out there both visible and non-visible.


--------------------
"The universe is endless, limitless and infinite.  Any effort to define it's boundaries is an attempt to overcome ignorance.  We are physical, mental and spiritual beings ... there is no beginning and there is no end.  There is only memory.  Our repeated loss of memory experiences create the illusion of beginnings and ends.  Immortality is the ability to retain full memory through all consciousness transformations.  Loss of memory is man's greatest curse and, in very real terms, death."

-- Ancient Taoist Master


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OnlineEclipse3130
Servant of the Fungi
Male User Gallery


Registered: 10/06/13
Posts: 6,221
Loc: PNW
Last seen: 7 minutes, 5 seconds
Re: Aliens [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #23978807 - 01/03/17 01:07 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

Quote:

KauaiOrca said:
Many mysteries we have yet to unravel.  If, however, consciousness does survive the life and death cycles, then literally the sky is the limit in terms of what kind of beings are out there both visible and non-visible.




Exactly my point, what's out there is unbound by our imagination, what we can perceive WE ARE.

So whose to say your entire existence isn't just a projected form within your mind, which in itself is just a projection of consciousness. An illusion

We are the creators of ourselves and every being in existence

If we find "aliens" we're really just finding a missing part of ourselves, we are scattered infinitely amongst the cosmos

The search to find home is infinite, we are eternal, never ending.


--------------------
"In The Material World One seeks retirement and grows Old
In The Magical World One seeks Enlightenment and grows Wiser
In The Miraculous World One seeks nothing and grows Lighter
As we all tread the Homeward Path we will explore many Realms
And one day... we will all Realize that all experiences are Simply
Different ways in which The
All-That Is
Perceives Itself"


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OnlineEclipse3130
Servant of the Fungi
Male User Gallery


Registered: 10/06/13
Posts: 6,221
Loc: PNW
Last seen: 7 minutes, 5 seconds
Re: Aliens [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #23978975 - 01/03/17 02:16 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

What lies beyond life and death is consciousness, we are eternal. Never truly nonexisting.

Life and Death is a human construct, there is no such thing.


--------------------
"In The Material World One seeks retirement and grows Old
In The Magical World One seeks Enlightenment and grows Wiser
In The Miraculous World One seeks nothing and grows Lighter
As we all tread the Homeward Path we will explore many Realms
And one day... we will all Realize that all experiences are Simply
Different ways in which The
All-That Is
Perceives Itself"


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleKauaiOrca
Waterman

Registered: 08/12/08
Posts: 3,131
Re: Aliens [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #23978982 - 01/03/17 02:19 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

Quote:

Eclipse3130 said:
What lies beyond life and death is consciousness, we are eternal. Never truly nonexisting.

Life and Death is a human construct, there is no such thing.




As the Taoists discovered and pointed out millennia ago, it is our inability to REMEMBER that causes us such confusion about life and death.  Death is the loss of memory and it is very real.


--------------------
"The universe is endless, limitless and infinite.  Any effort to define it's boundaries is an attempt to overcome ignorance.  We are physical, mental and spiritual beings ... there is no beginning and there is no end.  There is only memory.  Our repeated loss of memory experiences create the illusion of beginnings and ends.  Immortality is the ability to retain full memory through all consciousness transformations.  Loss of memory is man's greatest curse and, in very real terms, death."

-- Ancient Taoist Master


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OnlineEclipse3130
Servant of the Fungi
Male User Gallery


Registered: 10/06/13
Posts: 6,221
Loc: PNW
Last seen: 7 minutes, 5 seconds
Re: Aliens [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #23979041 - 01/03/17 02:38 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

I think you're missing how I view reality. It's only real as we know real to be; a construct in your mind.

We are the creation of everything in existence.

Nothing is real. Our entire "existence" is a grandiose illusion. We are the veil which gives "life" to the illusion.

None of this is actually here without a conscious observer

It's all in your mind


--------------------
"In The Material World One seeks retirement and grows Old
In The Magical World One seeks Enlightenment and grows Wiser
In The Miraculous World One seeks nothing and grows Lighter
As we all tread the Homeward Path we will explore many Realms
And one day... we will all Realize that all experiences are Simply
Different ways in which The
All-That Is
Perceives Itself"


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleKauaiOrca
Waterman

Registered: 08/12/08
Posts: 3,131
Re: Aliens [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #23979120 - 01/03/17 03:17 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

Quote:

Eclipse3130 said:
I think you're missing how I view reality. It's only real as we know real to be; a construct in your mind.

We are the creation of everything in existence.

Nothing is real. Our entire "existence" is a grandiose illusion. We are the veil which gives "life" to the illusion.

None of this is actually here without a conscious observer

It's all in your mind




Perhaps.  But it feels very real when we're in it.  Pain, suffering ... injury ... loss ... all feel very real.  I believe we are here to have a very potent physical experience and, as the Taoists taught, to work hard on preparing for death so we DO NOT lose our memory from this existence to the next.  This is essential.


--------------------
"The universe is endless, limitless and infinite.  Any effort to define it's boundaries is an attempt to overcome ignorance.  We are physical, mental and spiritual beings ... there is no beginning and there is no end.  There is only memory.  Our repeated loss of memory experiences create the illusion of beginnings and ends.  Immortality is the ability to retain full memory through all consciousness transformations.  Loss of memory is man's greatest curse and, in very real terms, death."

-- Ancient Taoist Master


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OnlineEclipse3130
Servant of the Fungi
Male User Gallery


Registered: 10/06/13
Posts: 6,221
Loc: PNW
Last seen: 7 minutes, 5 seconds
Re: Aliens [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #23979230 - 01/03/17 04:03 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

I agree!

:vibin:


--------------------
"In The Material World One seeks retirement and grows Old
In The Magical World One seeks Enlightenment and grows Wiser
In The Miraculous World One seeks nothing and grows Lighter
As we all tread the Homeward Path we will explore many Realms
And one day... we will all Realize that all experiences are Simply
Different ways in which The
All-That Is
Perceives Itself"


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinealwaysbenice
Stranger

Registered: 09/29/16
Posts: 28
Last seen: 7 years, 5 days
Re: Aliens [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #23979233 - 01/03/17 04:04 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

But memory implies change, which is still about the 'illusion'. All you need to know is the Self as Ramana Maharshi taught, which is beyond change and transient identity, every present.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineStarstepper
AI Brobot
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/08/16
Posts: 2,935
Loc: The blip on the radar Flag
Last seen: 4 years, 4 months
Re: Aliens [Re: alwaysbenice] * 1
    #23979666 - 01/03/17 06:54 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

Quote:

SleepyE said:
im skeptical about alien visitation in the physical realm.

but i cant help myself from almost being seriously convinced that the DMT realm is some sort of higher dimensional experience of reality. Just the twisting and morphing and depth. On top of the seriously messed up twilight zone level shit ive had happen to me because of it. it just literally SCREAMS "hyperspace" to me

the resemblance is spooky in my eyes :shocked:


i dunno man that shit is fishy.
anyone who doesn't feel even a hint of the impression that its the real deal isn't being completely honest with themselves imo. But i suppose that goes the other way  as well :shrug:




I'm with you on this. Once I got a real deal breakthrough I was astonished on what went down. The key is the torch lighter. You must use the torch lighter! haha


--------------------
:darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside:


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineAuroraBorealis88
Stranger


Registered: 05/06/16
Posts: 5,871
Last seen: 5 years, 2 months
Re: Aliens [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #23979681 - 01/03/17 07:02 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

Quote:

Eclipse3130 said:
In terms of "entity manifestation" and hallucinations which cause things to appear, visions of beings seen from inside of your mind to me are just Mental Projections (Tulpas). Apparitions created through the sheer will of human thought.




I never understood why people thought this. Where do people get this idea from? Carl Jung is simply one man, he's not the gatekeeper for all things logical and phenomenological. That's simply just one psychologist's kind of weird interpretation and one that is spawned through western thinking.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineAuroraBorealis88
Stranger


Registered: 05/06/16
Posts: 5,871
Last seen: 5 years, 2 months
Re: Aliens [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #23979689 - 01/03/17 07:06 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

Quote:

Eclipse3130 said:
But in my beliefs, Consciousness is the fabric of existence, from which all manifestation(even the illusion of life) stems from. It would make sense to me that the hallucinations are just consciousness forming itself out of purity, an extension of its raw form: A thoughtform.




But as I stated before how is that going to get us anywhere in this conversation? How is saying "these entities are in your mind because everything is in your mind" even an argument? Technically nothing is "real" but how does that apply to a pragmatic conversation?


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineStarstepper
AI Brobot
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/08/16
Posts: 2,935
Loc: The blip on the radar Flag
Last seen: 4 years, 4 months
Re: Aliens [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23979699 - 01/03/17 07:10 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

Quote:

AuroraBorealis88 said:
Quote:

Eclipse3130 said:
In terms of "entity manifestation" and hallucinations which cause things to appear, visions of beings seen from inside of your mind to me are just Mental Projections (Tulpas). Apparitions created through the sheer will of human thought.




I never understood why people thought this. Where do people get this idea from? Carl Jung is simply one man, he's not the gatekeeper for all things logical and phenomenological. That's simply just one psychologist's kind of weird interpretation and one that is spawned through western thinking.




I agree. Wouldn't my Tulpas look more like the sexy blue chick from that movie Avatar if that was the case? at least once?


--------------------
:darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside::darkside:


Edited by Starstepper (01/03/17 07:33 PM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineDr. Delban
Incognito hippie in disguise
Male User Gallery

Registered: 09/29/12
Posts: 2,015
Loc: UK Flag
Last seen: 1 month, 6 days
Re: Aliens [Re: Starstepper]
    #23979737 - 01/03/17 07:25 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)





--------------------
Experimenting with sobriety


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleThe Patient
 User Gallery

Registered: 03/06/13
Posts: 562
Re: Aliens [Re: CIA] * 1
    #23979818 - 01/03/17 07:53 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

The abduction experience is like a fish getting caught by fishermen. hook line and sinker.. the fish has no idea what's really happening, gets taken out of the water see's and experiences things with no frame of reference. Then thrown back into it's natural habitat confused as ever. :wink:


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleKauaiOrca
Waterman

Registered: 08/12/08
Posts: 3,131
Re: Aliens [Re: The Patient]
    #23980214 - 01/03/17 10:44 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

Quote:

The Patient said:
The abduction experience is like a fish getting caught by fishermen. hook line and sinker.. the fish has no idea what's really happening, gets taken out of the water see's and experiences things with no frame of reference. Then thrown back into it's natural habitat confused as ever. :wink:




Good analogy!


--------------------
"The universe is endless, limitless and infinite.  Any effort to define it's boundaries is an attempt to overcome ignorance.  We are physical, mental and spiritual beings ... there is no beginning and there is no end.  There is only memory.  Our repeated loss of memory experiences create the illusion of beginnings and ends.  Immortality is the ability to retain full memory through all consciousness transformations.  Loss of memory is man's greatest curse and, in very real terms, death."

-- Ancient Taoist Master


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: < Back | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | Next >  [ show all ]

Shop: Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* The BEST CONCLUSION ON ALIENS!
( 1 2 3 4 all )
KangKoopa 7,971 67 12/24/06 01:33 PM
by kija
* Acid and intelligence Mirth 1,504 15 01/15/07 05:03 AM
by Mirth
* Shrooms/Aliens
( 1 2 3 4 all )
AtomicShroom98 13,358 72 03/06/07 09:11 AM
by The_Rastaman
* Infrequent pot use often goes undetected in hair tests morphius2661 1,708 2 10/25/06 04:37 AM
by morphius2661
* DMT = meet aliens?
( 1 2 3 all )
GrizzyCappy 13,642 58 07/03/14 07:21 PM
by moonzo
* aliens?? dfslkfsd 1,165 17 10/11/05 06:45 PM
by stemmer
* The Alien Experience Slimz 1,945 15 10/26/07 03:58 PM
by Taco Chef
* LSD = increased intelligence?
( 1 2 all )
ny2casports89 11,506 26 09/18/07 10:49 AM
by badchad

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: psilocybinjunkie, Rose, mushboy, LogicaL Chaos, Northerner, bodhisatta
3,602 topic views. 7 members, 76 guests and 20 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.029 seconds spending 0.006 seconds on 15 queries.