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Anyone familiar with r/K selection?
    #23965979 - 12/29/16 04:06 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)




r/K selection are two diverging strategies by which animals propagate and live. The r selectors are animals like rabbits, fish, or grazing animals. They tend to experiance abundant resources, be lower on the food chain, less complex, and minimally invest in offspring or the future. They also tend to be non-confrontational because it would be pointless with abundant resources. Fleeing is their primary way of coping with threats.
They also have low in group preferances

K selective species are smarter and tend to be preditors. They invest in their young, which they have fewer of. Their resources are not usually as abundant and need to be managed. These creatures tend to have stronger relationships and select fore higher quality mates. Surprisingly they also tend to have very 'rules', as pack animals do.
They have high in-group preferances



I can already see where the implications on the personality types of people on the ends of the political spectrum look. It's an interesting way to think about this personality divide


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Re: Anyone familiar with r/K selection? [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23966263 - 12/29/16 06:28 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I can already see where the implications on the personality types of people on the ends of the political spectrum look. It's an interesting way to think about this personality divide




Lol no. That's completely asinine.


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Re: Anyone familiar with r/K selection? [Re: clock_of_omens]
    #23966439 - 12/29/16 07:39 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

You both registered on the same day


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Re: Anyone familiar with r/K selection? [Re: Easyriding123]
    #23966478 - 12/29/16 07:53 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

We're friends irl. I registered because he was telling me on the phone he registered and was arguing with someone, so I came to check it out.


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Re: Anyone familiar with r/K selection? [Re: clock_of_omens]
    #23966591 - 12/29/16 08:30 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, I watched most of that series. I though it was too cut and dry but I like the general theory of the survival methodologies; it's definitely food for thought.


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Re: Anyone familiar with r/K selection? [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23966796 - 12/29/16 09:36 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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r/K selection are two diverging strategies by which animals propagate and live. The r selectors are animals like rabbits, fish, or grazing animals. They tend to experiance abundant resources, be lower on the food chain, less complex, and minimally invest in offspring or the future. They also tend to be non-confrontational because it would be pointless with abundant resources. Fleeing is their primary way of coping with threats.
They also have low in group preferances

K selective species are smarter and tend to be preditors. They invest in their young, which they have fewer of. Their resources are not usually as abundant and need to be managed. These creatures tend to have stronger relationships and select fore higher quality mates. Surprisingly they also tend to have very 'rules', as pack animals do.
They have high in-group preferances



I can already see where the implications on the personality types of people on the ends of the political spectrum look. It's an interesting way to think about this personality divide




I read about this in bio 102. It's definitely an interesting model for differentiating reproductive strategies in the animal kingdom.

IMO grazers aren't so definitive of r-selective species as animals like locusts, which go through population explosions during times of abundance followed by mass die-offs once they burn through their food supply. Pack hunting animals are the strongest counterexample for such a strategy but grazers fall somewhere in between, but still closer to r selection.

When I think of r-selected people, I think of the Duggars.


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Re: Anyone familiar with r/K selection? [Re: clock_of_omens]
    #23967690 - 12/30/16 10:11 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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We're friends irl. I registered because he was telling me on the phone he registered and was arguing with someone, so I came to check it out.



I don't know you.


Nice to see you around again Sophie. I don't know if I agree about the diggers. Wouldn't it depends if they invest alot in their children? They may have some high quality children
Except that one.


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Re: Anyone familiar with r/K selection? [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23967733 - 12/30/16 10:28 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Trying to apply r or K selection to different groups of people is ridiculous. r/K selection is an ecological theory about evolution. It's based on a ridiculously simple mathematical model of population dynamics. Many other things affect populations besides population density which is all that model is based on. Also, species aren't just 'r-selected' or 'K-selected'. Different species have different of the various traits that would be categorized into either of these groups. Trying to set up a stupidly simple dichotomy based on this ecological theory and putting different groups of people into those categories is silly enough, but to seriously try to claim any connection to stereotypes of liberals and conservatives is just plain dumb. Also I have my doubts about his claims on epigenetics having anything to do with people supposedly switching from 'r-selection' to 'K-selection' at various points in their lives.


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Re: Anyone familiar with r/K selection? [Re: clock_of_omens]
    #23967753 - 12/30/16 10:36 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Epigenetics obviously needs more science. It seems like it gets thrown around alot.
I just thought it was an interesting lense to think about behavioral tendencies with


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Re: Anyone familiar with r/K selection? [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23967774 - 12/30/16 10:42 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

A bogus lens.


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Re: Anyone familiar with r/K selection? [Re: specialpeopleclub] * 1
    #23967886 - 12/30/16 11:20 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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The r selectors are animals like rabbits, fish, or grazing animals. They tend to experiance abundant resources, be lower on the food chain, less complex, and minimally invest in offspring or the future. They also tend to be non-confrontational because it would be pointless with abundant resources. Fleeing is their primary way of coping with threats.
They also have low in group preferances

K selective species are smarter and tend to be preditors. They invest in their young, which they have fewer of. Their resources are not usually as abundant and need to be managed. These creatures tend to have stronger relationships and select fore higher quality mates. Surprisingly they also tend to have very 'rules', as pack animals do.
They have high in-group preferances




ok so you didnt realize that this guy is a tool

the 'r selector' are claimed to do quantity over quality and in his own words,
they dont invest in their offspring and will eat them if they get hungry while
the 'k selectors' actually rear their young, teach them and shit


let's look at our domesticated predators, cats and dogs have as many as a dozen
young per litter and often do eat their young especially when they're hungry,
many predators do in fact eat their young and even humans have been known to do
this during times of famine or in situations where they have to survive and those
offspring are the only food source.

now with those prey animals, rabbits, mice and the like, they mostly have fewer
than 4 per litter with a normal average being around 3, they also rear their young
and have been known to aggressively defend their offspring which entirely
eliminates the claim that they simply flee as a primary source of defense.


this tool should stick to what he actually knows instead of trying to pretend he has
a clue about genetics, oh wait, he's one of those MGTOW dumbasses so he doesnt
actually know much, only what he feels which really makes him another SJW


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Re: Anyone familiar with r/K selection? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23967906 - 12/30/16 11:28 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

He does send off signals, like when he sung the National Anthem after Trump was elected
I don't claim to ascribe to his ideals

I did just see a video a week ago where a rabbit avenged it's young by killing a snake, now that I think of it


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Re: Anyone familiar with r/K selection? [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23967935 - 12/30/16 11:42 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

maybe with all his youtube money he can one day buy himself someone to propagate his r selector gens with


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Re: Anyone familiar with r/K selection? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23967941 - 12/30/16 11:44 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I didn't watch the video, but I'm getting the sense from Pris' breakdown of it all that this is just some douche trying to push an alpha vs beta narrative on the human species.


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Re: Anyone familiar with r/K selection? [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23967947 - 12/30/16 11:45 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

if you want the tl;dw, that's a good summation


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Re: Anyone familiar with r/K selection? [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23967973 - 12/30/16 11:59 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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We're friends irl. I registered because he was telling me on the phone he registered and was arguing with someone, so I came to check it out.



I don't know you.


Nice to see you around again Sophie. I don't know if I agree about the diggers. Wouldn't it depends if they invest alot in their children? They may have some high quality children
Except that one.




r/K selection is based on the relationship between the survival strategy and the resources of subsistence. r selectors use resources to fuel reproduction in an uncontrolled way, burning through them within one or several generations. Whereas K selectors have reproductive strategies that limit the population's consumption of resources over the generations, ensuring that many successive generations will have a steady food supply. Having 19 kids just because you can is the definition of r selection.


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Re: Anyone familiar with r/K selection? [Re: clock_of_omens]
    #23968010 - 12/30/16 12:21 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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We're friends irl. I registered because he was telling me on the phone he registered and was arguing with someone, so I came to check it out.




I only just saw this. That is fucking hilarious, I bet a sitcom could be developed from your friendship.


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Re: Anyone familiar with r/K selection? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #23968014 - 12/30/16 12:22 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

He is lieing. I didn't even know we registered the same date. He's just a troll


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Re: Anyone familiar with r/K selection? [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23968044 - 12/30/16 12:32 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

:readmylipsfuckyou:


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Re: Anyone familiar with r/K selection? [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23968064 - 12/30/16 12:38 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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He is lieing. I didn't even know we registered the same date. He's just a troll





that's just the kind of thing that people always say about their friend


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Re: Anyone familiar with r/K selection? [Re: clock_of_omens]
    #23968133 - 12/30/16 01:09 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

You guys are like the American answer to Ricky Gervais and Karl Pilkington.


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Re: Anyone familiar with r/K selection? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #23968154 - 12/30/16 01:16 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

we would be much more funny then that if we knew each other.


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