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Re: More sanctions against Russia [Re: Enlil]
    #24214672 - 04/03/17 06:59 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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No one is questioning whether or not Iraq lost.  That's obvious.  We didn't win, though.  The fact that you think there is a "win column" says a lot about how the military trains people to think.

The bottom line is that the military isn't made up of our brightest and best.  It's made up of those who didn't have a lot of options when they graduated high school.  It's not a bad way to build a fighting force, but it's definitely not a good way to build a military that can effect the changes that need to happen without creating even bigger problems for us in the long run.





People who think the military is made up of "stupid people" tells a lot about how the left in this country "trains people how to think"


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Re: More sanctions against Russia [Re: hostileuniverse] * 4
    #24214675 - 04/03/17 07:04 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Quotations are usually for quoting something...not just making up your own shit.  I guess that's what makes you the king, though.


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Re: More sanctions against Russia [Re: Enlil]
    #24214680 - 04/03/17 07:07 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Your words speak for themselves,

You seem to think the military is a bunch of retards, alt least be honest in your assertions


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Re: More sanctions against Russia [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #24214681 - 04/03/17 07:10 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Not retards.  Not the brightest and the best, though.

The student who gets offered a full ride to MIT isn't joining the military instead.  I'm sure it has happened, but that's definitely not typical.  More typically, the military picks up those who don't have solid plans after high school.


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Re: More sanctions against Russia [Re: Enlil]
    #24214689 - 04/03/17 07:13 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

But that is NOT the military's fault.

If the civilian that send them there fuck it up, you can't blame the military for the bigger problems that they are not trained to manage.


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Re: More sanctions against Russia [Re: sweeper54] * 2
    #24214693 - 04/03/17 07:16 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

I'm not blaming anyone.  I'm saying it wasn't a win.  A real win would have taken the military we have PLUS an equally effective force to manage the transition from one regime to another. 

My point is that our military is well-equipped to fight.  They're not equipped to win wars, however.


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Re: More sanctions against Russia [Re: sweeper54]
    #24214695 - 04/03/17 07:16 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Oh ok, everyone who's not college educated is stupid, got it

Thanks for the clarification :thumbup:


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Re: More sanctions against Russia [Re: hostileuniverse] * 2
    #24214699 - 04/03/17 07:18 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

It's hard to beat the king, I suppose.  Not everyone can build a strawman and destroy it that quickly.  Kudos.


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Re: More sanctions against Russia [Re: Enlil]
    #24214701 - 04/03/17 07:19 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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It's hard to beat the king, I suppose.  Not everyone can build a strawman and destroy it that quickly.  Kudos.




Sucks being called out doesn't it?

The left just can't be honest, that's what I'm here for, to call you people out on your BS

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Re: More sanctions against Russia [Re: hostileuniverse] * 2
    #24214704 - 04/03/17 07:22 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

You're here to make shit up and then point out the absurdity of what you just made up.  It's really all you do, and this isn't a new phenomenon.  Rarely have I ever seen you try to improve your rhetoric.  It's always the same old pattern:  Assign an opponent a position he didn't take then attack that position.


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Re: More sanctions against Russia [Re: Enlil]
    #24214710 - 04/03/17 07:29 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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You're here to make shit up and then point out the absurdity of what you just made up.  It's really all you do, and this isn't a new phenomenon.  Rarely have I ever seen you try to improve your rhetoric.  It's always the same old pattern:  Assign an opponent a position he didn't take then attack that position.




As hard as I try, I'll never understand the "if you're not like me, you're stupid" mentality that is so prevalent amongst leftists, it baffles me

Amd of course pointing it out is met with derision and insults

I'm not here to educate you, I'm just here to point out your lunacy, and judging by your reaction, I've hit quite the nerve:lol:


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Re: More sanctions against Russia [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #24214712 - 04/03/17 07:30 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Lol, I don't have nerves to hit.  I'm way past the point of actually trying to help you understand what a strawman is and how to avoid it.  Now, it just makes me chuckle on a Monday morning as I get ready for court.


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Re: More sanctions against Russia [Re: Enlil]
    #24214957 - 04/03/17 10:39 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

How does one object strawmen in court?

Is that leading?


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Re: More sanctions against Russia [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #24214960 - 04/03/17 10:41 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

"Misstates the Testimony"


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Re: More sanctions against Russia [Re: Enlil]
    #24214980 - 04/03/17 10:49 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

2 out of 3 people that I know that enlisted were drug dealers.  The other one was my cousin.  My cousin is pretty much the know it all type.  He thinks very highly of himself.

My Dad was in the Army and a brand of crazy.  Other people I knew were definitely brain washed.

It's like my Grandma going on and on about how great America is and how christian America is everything.  I just look away and don't say anything.  Just like when someone says something really crazy and you don't want to get involved.

Personally I have known the military to be a bunch of criminals.  They get away with a ton of stuff.  People think their beliefs are so supreme.  God this, America that, nobody even knows what goes on but they fully support their racist agenda.


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Re: More sanctions against Russia [Re: Enlil]
    #24214983 - 04/03/17 10:50 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

do you have to pull that card often?


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Re: More sanctions against Russia [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #24215059 - 04/03/17 11:24 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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Your words speak for themselves,

You seem to think the military is a bunch of retards, alt least be honest in your assertions




During the Iraq war, the military was desperate for recruits and they had to scrape the bottom of the barrel to get them.


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Re: More sanctions against Russia [Re: koods]
    #24215086 - 04/03/17 11:35 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

I'd hate to see what the Military will be under Trump. 

Face it though.  They have always used the bottom of society.  They used to have an option for either prison or the military.  The draft scraped the crust from the bottom as well.

Crime families need to have enforcers.


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Re: More sanctions against Russia [Re: Morel Guy] * 1
    #24215135 - 04/03/17 11:55 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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I'd hate to see what the Military will be under Trump. 

Face it though.  They have always used the bottom of society.  They used to have an option for either prison or the military.  The draft scraped the crust from the bottom as well.



I think there's a wide range of how smart soldiers are.  But enlisted people don't make strategic decisions for the military, so it seems like a pointless argument.


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Re: More sanctions against Russia [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #24215150 - 04/03/17 12:01 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

No, people like Michael Flynn do, which is even scarier.


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