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Re: More sanctions against Russia [Re: elax420]
    #23974325 - 01/01/17 09:51 PM (7 years, 29 days ago)

The democrats lost a generation of voters with the bullshit they pulled in the primaries and general election

Obamas presidency failed on nearly every point
The dems desperately need a scapegoat and they found one that resonates with old, low information voters.


At least when bush fabricated a lie to start a war, the country he targeted wasn't a military superpower that has a larger nuclear stockpile than our own.


Dumbass obama armed Isis, bombed 7 countries and gave a 1.2 trillion bailout to the banks which are now richer and more powerful than ever. And y'all have the gall to wonder why you lost the election.


God the democrats are more cancerous than republicans, which is like saying ild rather get eaten by a shark than a bear.


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Re: More sanctions against Russia [Re: elax420] * 3
    #23974358 - 01/01/17 10:00 PM (7 years, 29 days ago)

I agree, so I'm not wondering why Hillary lost the election.  I didn't vote for her, nor did any of my family nor my wife's family.  And we live in California.  :shrug:


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Re: More sanctions against Russia [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #23974407 - 01/01/17 10:15 PM (7 years, 29 days ago)

Nice

I always thought u were one of the more liberal posters on here. Glad to hear you can read through the bullshit.

I used to kinda like obama but man his 2nd term was a disaster. I think Syria/Libya may have been worse for world peace than Iraq. I get not like Russia but why would you ever try to engage them? It's a losing proposition for both sides.


I'm not optimistic about the incoming administration but normalization with Russia is a good idea, and I support trumps rationality on this matter.


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Re: More sanctions against Russia [Re: elax420] * 1
    #23974467 - 01/01/17 10:35 PM (7 years, 29 days ago)

I am very liberal, but also very anti-establishment.

I agree Obama's 2nd term was bad, and it's only going downhill with the new sanctions.

I love Putin's response:

Quote:

Russia has reasons to respond in kind. Although we have the right to retaliate, we will not resort to irresponsible ‘kitchen’ diplomacy but will plan our further steps to restore Russian-US relations




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Re: More sanctions against Russia [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23974473 - 01/01/17 10:39 PM (7 years, 29 days ago)

What is kitchen diplomacy?


Putin obviously got in obamas head very early into obamas presidency. Every time they engaged on an issue, putin came out as the unequivocal winner. Obama was fairly reminiscent of a neocon in action, imo.


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Re: More sanctions against Russia [Re: elax420]
    #23974536 - 01/01/17 10:56 PM (7 years, 29 days ago)

I don't know actually.  I'm trying to find Putin's original Russian video so I can translate it myself.

You're right.  Putin is killing Obama.  Even Hillary whined that we're losing the propaganda war:



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Re: More sanctions against Russia [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23975109 - 01/02/17 06:06 AM (7 years, 28 days ago)

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
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sweeper54 said:
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Because the establishment media says so?



http://time.com/putin-secret-agents/

http://euromaidanpress.com/2016/10/04/proof-of-putins-crime-within-a-crime-has-far-reaching-consequences-eidman-says/#arvlbdata

http://www.wsj.com/articles/a-deadly-russian-toll-1425155183

List of journalist kill

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_Russia

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/article/2016/jan/04/does-vladimir-putin-kill-journalists/

He a real fucking humanitarian.

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/article/2016/jan/04/does-vladimir-putin-kill-journalists/

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/19/alexander-litvinenko-the-man-who-solved-his-own-murder

Intelligence Expert Explains Why Donald Trump is the Perfect KGB Recruit

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/12/17/intelligence-expert-explains-donald-trump-perfect-kgb-recruit.html


And just today

http://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-putin-russia-icc-20161116-story.html



Yup, that what I thought.  Because the establishment media says so (elax just beat me to it).  :smirk:

Granted, Wikipedia isn't establishment, but they also keep a List of journalists killed in the United States.



I'm so glad you've reached the point of dismissing the liberal-leaning establishment media outright. It makes life so much easier, doesn't it?

I pity the morons that believe liberal-leaning establishment sources. Wake up, Sweeper.


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Re: More sanctions against Russia [Re: sweeper54]
    #23975125 - 01/02/17 06:14 AM (7 years, 28 days ago)

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WND, REALLY? What rock did they crawl out from under

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3248231/Report-on-Russian-Hacking.pdf



Sweeper, what in that report proves that Russia was behind the election hacking? The report is a sham, you didn't read it and anyone who did would realize that it doesn't serve as evidence of Russia hacking Podesta.

Go and crawl back under your establishment media rock.

EDIT: apparently Sweeper hasn't heard that the attacks actually originated from the Ukraine. But I mean Ukraine is close to Russia so it was definitely Putin himself :flowstone:


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Re: More sanctions against Russia [Re: sweeper54] * 1
    #23975130 - 01/02/17 06:16 AM (7 years, 28 days ago)

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What about the Russian hack of Burlington Power in VT they just discovered.

"That hack could have spread thru out the entire US grid" said Malcolm Nance this morning.

How many more Russian viruses are sitting out there?



Now would you like to take the time and correct yourself? That computer wasn't connected to the grid. It couldn't have spread throughout the entire US. Stop making shit up and spreading your fake establishment news.


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Re: More sanctions against Russia [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23975164 - 01/02/17 06:38 AM (7 years, 28 days ago)

Quote:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Quote:

sweeper54 said:
Quote:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Because the establishment media says so?



http://time.com/putin-secret-agents/

http://euromaidanpress.com/2016/10/04/proof-of-putins-crime-within-a-crime-has-far-reaching-consequences-eidman-says/#arvlbdata

http://www.wsj.com/articles/a-deadly-russian-toll-1425155183

List of journalist kill

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_Russia

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/article/2016/jan/04/does-vladimir-putin-kill-journalists/

He a real fucking humanitarian.

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/article/2016/jan/04/does-vladimir-putin-kill-journalists/


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/19/alexander-litvinenko-the-man-who-solved-his-own-murder

Intelligence Expert Explains Why Donald Trump is the Perfect KGB Recruit

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/12/17/intelligence-expert-explains-donald-trump-perfect-kgb-recruit.html


And just today

http://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-putin-russia-icc-20161116-story.html



Yup, that what I thought.  Because the establishment media says so (elax just beat me to it).  :smirk:

Granted, Wikipedia isn't establishment, but they also keep a List of journalists killed in the United States.




BUT WAIT there's a BIT of a difference. Only five (5) each have died while Putin-in-the-Donald's-mouth was in power.


Edited by sweeper54 (01/02/17 06:57 AM)


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Re: More sanctions against Russia [Re: sweeper54]
    #23975167 - 01/02/17 06:41 AM (7 years, 28 days ago)

Cites left wing blogs to verify left wing ideology...

:huxleyfacepalm:


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Re: More sanctions against Russia [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23975187 - 01/02/17 06:57 AM (7 years, 28 days ago)

Quote:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
I am very liberal, but also very anti-establishment.

I agree Obama's 2nd term was bad, and it's only going downhill with the new sanctions.

I love Putin's response:

Quote:

Russia has reasons to respond in kind. Although we have the right to retaliate, we will not resort to irresponsible ‘kitchen’ diplomacy but will plan our further steps to restore Russian-US relations








That called BAIT and lil'dick has already swallowed it.


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Re: More sanctions against Russia [Re: sweeper54]
    #23975189 - 01/02/17 06:57 AM (7 years, 28 days ago)

Quote:

sweeper54 said:
Quote:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Quote:

sweeper54 said:
Quote:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Because the establishment media says so?



http://time.com/putin-secret-agents/

http://euromaidanpress.com/2016/10/04/proof-of-putins-crime-within-a-crime-has-far-reaching-consequences-eidman-says/#arvlbdata

http://www.wsj.com/articles/a-deadly-russian-toll-1425155183

List of journalist kill

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_Russia

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/article/2016/jan/04/does-vladimir-putin-kill-journalists/

He a real fucking humanitarian.

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/article/2016/jan/04/does-vladimir-putin-kill-journalists/


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/19/alexander-litvinenko-the-man-who-solved-his-own-murder

Intelligence Expert Explains Why Donald Trump is the Perfect KGB Recruit

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/12/17/intelligence-expert-explains-donald-trump-perfect-kgb-recruit.html


And just today

http://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-putin-russia-icc-20161116-story.html



Yup, that what I thought.  Because the establishment media says so (elax just beat me to it).  :smirk:

Granted, Wikipedia isn't establishment, but they also keep a List of journalists killed in the United States.




BUT WAIT there's a BIT of a difference. Only five (5) each gave died while Putin-in-the-Donald's-mouth was in power.



Will you ever stop being a delusional partisan?


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Re: More sanctions against Russia [Re: sweeper54]
    #23975191 - 01/02/17 06:58 AM (7 years, 28 days ago)

Quote:

sweeper54 said:
Quote:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
I am very liberal, but also very anti-establishment.

I agree Obama's 2nd term was bad, and it's only going downhill with the new sanctions.

I love Putin's response:

Quote:

Russia has reasons to respond in kind. Although we have the right to retaliate, we will not resort to irresponsible ‘kitchen’ diplomacy but will plan our further steps to restore Russian-US relations








That called BAIT and lil'dick has already swallowed it.



Only in the mind of a delusional partisan could Putins statement be interpreted as a secret wish for war.


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Re: More sanctions against Russia [Re: Webster10] * 1
    #23975914 - 01/02/17 11:59 AM (7 years, 28 days ago)

Putin knows he would lose in a full engagement.  He'll just poke and stoke the fires from time to time. 

They only have 1 carrier.


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Re: More sanctions against Russia [Re: Webster10]
    #23976215 - 01/02/17 01:37 PM (7 years, 28 days ago)

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I'm so glad you've reached the point of dismissing the liberal-leaning establishment media outright. It makes life so much easier, doesn't it?

I pity the morons that believe liberal-leaning establishment sources. Wake up, Sweeper.



Establishment sources are not liberal leaning - they're establishment leaning (there have been many prior discussions on this).  Since Hillary was the establishment candidate, you are under the (false) impression the establishment media are liberal leaning.


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Re: More sanctions against Russia [Re: Webster10]
    #23976221 - 01/02/17 01:39 PM (7 years, 28 days ago)

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What in that report proves that Russia was behind the election hacking? The report is a sham, you didn't read it and anyone who did would realize that it doesn't serve as evidence of Russia hacking Podesta.

Go and crawl back under your establishment media rock.

EDIT: the attacks actually originated from the Ukraine. But I mean Ukraine is close to Russia so it was definitely Putin himself :flowstone:



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Re: More sanctions against Russia [Re: sweeper54]
    #23976236 - 01/02/17 01:44 PM (7 years, 28 days ago)

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Quote:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
I love Putin's response:

Quote:

Russia has reasons to respond in kind. Although we have the right to retaliate, we will not resort to irresponsible ‘kitchen’ diplomacy but will plan our further steps to restore Russian-US relations








That called BAIT and lil'dick has already swallowed it.



So if Russia is nice, that means they're not to be trusted?
:dudewtf:


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Re: More sanctions against Russia [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23976566 - 01/02/17 03:46 PM (7 years, 28 days ago)

I hope you boys are right, but I will never count on it.


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Re: More sanctions against Russia [Re: sweeper54]
    #23976580 - 01/02/17 03:51 PM (7 years, 28 days ago)

Intelligence agencies are like the mafia.  Putin is a big player in the Russian mob.  Why would you trust the mob?  That is just stupid.  They will use you and take advantage.  You will just be a tool to them.  A disposable tool like a lady's tampon.  Do you want to be a tampax?  Putin's tampax?


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