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Warrior_Monk
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Warrior_Monk's spiritual routine
#23964728 - 12/29/16 06:33 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hey people, each passing day I'm more fascinated by entheogens and meditation. New experiences keep on showing me the power of these little pieces of nature, more time focusing on my breath makes my mind sharper and more grounded. This is the reason I decided to design a "spiritual routine" so that I squeeeeeze every drop of knowledge I can.
Why am I sharing this with you? Well, isn't it obvious? You are the pros! I ask for your help: critique, share your own routines, add new suggestions....Hopefully, we all will learn something from this.
The plan
Daily activities: -Pragmatic dharmma style meditation focusing on the breath, at least 30 minutes, building up to 1 hour when possible
Monthly activities: -Days of Full Moon: 3g of shrooms in the company of friends or alone, probably with daylight, trips outside enjoying nature, or inside listening to some music. I intend to have happy, sensual, pleasurable, colorful trips. You could call these "enjoying the world trips". -First quarter and last quarter: marijuana until I can't smoke anymore, then relax with music and let her take my thoughts and emotions where she wants to. This is intended to be an introspection exercise about my daily life, and general direction. -New Moon: 5g of shrooms in silent solitary darkness, probably at night. These trips will be intended to let the shroom take wherever he wants to, I will offer complete surrender and reverent contemplation of the experience. You could call these trips "McKenna style shamanistic exercise trips".
So this is all I'm working on gaining access to more psychedelics so I have a wider array of keys, teachers, experiences, dimensions... Please do throw your suggestions in!
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Edited by Warrior_Monk (12/29/16 06:51 AM)
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Re: Warrior_Monk's spiritual routine [Re: Warrior_Monk]
#23964768 - 12/29/16 07:10 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Have you learned to grow your own mushrooms?
I recommend once a month. This allows time in between for integration as well as time to prepare for the next months dose. I speak for the mushrooms, I cannot say for other substances as I have little to no experience outside of cannabis an a little alcohol in my younger years.
Meditation is great and all, but I wouldn't get too tied up into keeping too tightly to schedule. If you miss a day, don't take it too hard on your self. It's a great way to go inwards, but must be practiced and even then, I believe you can not reach the same levels of awareness as you can with the entheogens.
I'm in the same rabbit hole, though I'm not as willing to go through the practice of meditation. I'm facinated by the mushrooms and even though I find myself pointing my finger at them saying 'they taught me this or that', I don't like too. These things have a stigma surrounding them in society, so I am always cautious about who I discuss my experiences with.
Just IMO

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Edited by HamHead (12/29/16 12:00 PM)
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Re: Warrior_Monk's spiritual routine [Re: HamHead]
#23965051 - 12/29/16 09:49 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hye man, thanks a lot, I edited the post 
About meditation, I'm trying to develop an habit out of it, I'm not hard on myself if I miss a day but I'm aiming for at least 5 days a week no excuses, this is definitely achievable. About tripping only once a month...you might be right, but as a newbie (only 5 trips so far) I have a desire to learn quickly . This might not be wise though, that's the reason I want your opinions and suggestions guys
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Re: Warrior_Monk's spiritual routine [Re: Warrior_Monk]
#23965351 - 12/29/16 11:54 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm happy to see that you're wanting to learn, just be careful. If you're young, you have time to learn and if you're older, then well, maybe you can trip every other week and get away with it. Either way, be safe.
I can't give any sound advice about meditation, though I can say this, you can focus on your breath all day.
I say once a month because it's important to stay grounded. Sometimes, if you eat too many mushrooms too close together, tolerance is built and the effects you feel on 5 grams doesn't feel the same as a 5 grams dose 6 months ago. Experience and time in will make you more comfortable in these head spaces and you notice, and I've said this to my self before, I think I can take more. It's a very slippery slope dealing with how much to dose and how often. Some people will recommend increasing by one gram each time, which is solid advice. Others may say, start at 5 and increase by two each time, do your 5-7-9 to get your sea legs and then begin working regularly with high doses of 10-40g.
If you haven't heard any of Kilindi Iyi, he has some very interesting lectures on YouTube and has done some pod cast as well. He claims his highest dose is 40 dry grams, which I can see possible having worked with the mushroom for 30+ years.
People are becoming awakened more and more these days and the Internet has been a great platform to spread this idea the entheogens seem to pass along.


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Re: Warrior_Monk's spiritual routine [Re: HamHead]
#23965364 - 12/29/16 11:58 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Looks like a route to the cosmos
 Just remember, you can't rush the journey. The journey is the reward, don't let the journey pass you by, remember to stop and smell the roses.
And out of darkness, light is manifested, and from light we manifest, we are, to be.
-------------------- "In The Material World One seeks retirement and grows Old In The Magical World One seeks Enlightenment and grows Wiser In The Miraculous World One seeks nothing and grows Lighter As we all tread the Homeward Path we will explore many Realms And one day... we will all Realize that all experiences are Simply Different ways in which The All-That Is Perceives Itself"
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Re: Warrior_Monk's spiritual routine [Re: Eclipse3130]
#23965390 - 12/29/16 12:08 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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In terms of dosage, and frequency listen to your inner guidance and intuition, forcing mushrooms on yourself won't get you anywhere but lost in your thoughts, let them come to you. Take the journey as it comes as much as you want to be Great, it takes a huge commitment and discipline to reach that point. A life commitment, that doesn't mean you won't see progress though, especially with the thinning spiritual barriers, it should come first hand to anyone with an open mind.
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Re: Warrior_Monk's spiritual routine [Re: Eclipse3130]
#23965394 - 12/29/16 12:10 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I ripped 50 eightballs of shrooms in six months and then quit to see if I would blend back in with society. I was really far out.
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Re: Warrior_Monk's spiritual routine [Re: sunshine]
#23965621 - 12/29/16 01:50 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thank you all a lot So far I will change the 2 trips a month to 1 month of 5g in new moon McKenna style and the "enjoying the world" ones to whenever I feel like I could use it. This seems like an "in-between" I will definitely check that Iyi guy out!
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Re: Warrior_Monk's spiritual routine [Re: Warrior_Monk]
#23965813 - 12/29/16 03:09 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Don't forget about micro dosing!!
For those 'enjoy the world' days. A tenth up to a quarter of a gram, you might be amazed.
Edited by HamHead (12/29/16 03:11 PM)
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Re: Warrior_Monk's spiritual routine [Re: HamHead]
#23966003 - 12/29/16 04:20 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Micro meditations I call them. They are very powerful
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Re: Warrior_Monk's spiritual routine [Re: Eclipse3130]
#23966220 - 12/29/16 06:10 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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It occurs to me that typical buddhist meditations involve quieting and clearing the mind and regard substances that alter consciousness as a hinderance to the process of clarity due to something about desire. 
Due to this Buddhists are rarely known to participate in drug use.
Psychedelic shamanism typically involves chemical intervention allowing the mind to fly into vast and intricate visionary experiences. 
These two approaches might not be optimized for working together. 
There is a sect of buddhism called vajrayana tantra that often dwelves into drug use (indulging in wine and hashish traditionally). 
A typical tantric sadhana involves extensive visualization exercises, yoga poses, mantras, ritual indulgence in drugs and sex and a variety of other methods for working with the mind to recognize the meaning of the dharma much more quickly. 
Psychedelics can greatly enhance the tantric process if used properly. 
Of course I advise anyone considering these methods to ignore excessive dogma and vows to ensure maximum freedom. 
Regardless your plan has gusto, and it can only be enhanced by making sure your heart is in a balanced place and using due prudence.
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Buddhism has gone so many ways, I give you permission to use drugs!!!!
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Quote:
psychedelicliz said: It occurs to me that typical buddhist meditations involve quieting and clearing the mind and regard substances that alter consciousness as a hinderance to the process of clarity due to something about desire. 
Due to this Buddhists are rarely known to participate in drug use.
Psychedelic shamanism typically involves chemical intervention allowing the mind to fly into vast and intricate visionary experiences. 
These two approaches might not be optimized for working together. 
There is a sect of buddhism called vajrayana tantra that often dwelves into drug use (indulging in wine and hashish traditionally). 
A typical tantric sadhana involves extensive visualization exercises, yoga poses, mantras, ritual indulgence in drugs and sex and a variety of other methods for working with the mind to recognize the meaning of the dharma much more quickly. 
Psychedelics can greatly enhance the tantric process if used properly. 
Of course I advise anyone considering these methods to ignore excessive dogma and vows to ensure maximum freedom. 
Regardless your plan has gusto, and it can only be enhanced by making sure your heart is in a balanced place and using due prudence. 
Maximum freedom here yes, I arrived at buddhism through its pragmatic tradition (dharma overground is a good site if anyone is interested). I really, really, have to gain more knowledge about vajrayana, but it feels so vast and overwhelming that I don't know where to start 
And yes, I can see the difficulties in mixing the too ways of spirituality but...then again, I think about what a well developed mind through meditation could experience under psychedelics...and I get all hyped up
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Re: Warrior_Monk's spiritual routine [Re: Warrior_Monk]
#23968329 - 12/30/16 02:51 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I take this to mean, that you are just practicing the inner meaning of dharma without the religious peripherals. 
Have you possibly read the Sutra of Hui-Neng. He was the 6th patriarch of chan/zen and tends to express a similar approach. 
I would be inclined to guess that you might be trying to use the psychedelics and meditation to propel you into a visionary trance, then naturally you would want to be able to enter and leave the visionary state at will. 
I have found that using hypnosis (trance) can allow a person to deepen states of meditation and allow a person to access states (including psychedelic ones)that the person has experienced before. 
After some induction and deepening, you could take a specific psychedelic trip or meditation, and go through the feelings and experiences in the order that you felt them (or as nearly as you can remember)can elicit the response again in the trance. 
At this point you could anchor the state and elicit the psychedelic response at will. 
Its a possible shortcut you might consider that could work in conjunction with your practice plan.
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I will definitely read that sutra,since I'm not familiar with zen or any other buddhist tradition that is not theravada (the pragmatic dharmma takes a lot from theravada). Could you point me in some direction regarding acceding visionary states through meditation alone? I'm very much interested in it  Thank you very much psychedelicliz!
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#23968927 - 12/30/16 07:07 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I spent 2016 learning to meditate better and more often. For the most part i just tripped on the eight sabats, odd full or new moon, but i try to keep to the eight days for a full trip. Tho i skipped Yule as having a little break.
The most productive night i think of all, was the night i had mescaline/bridgessi cactus tea i made, i meditated for a few hours, on and off, and was the greatest evening all year out of mescaline, shrooms, amanita muscaria and 1p-lsd.
Good luck to you roll on 2017 ^_^
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#23970409 - 12/31/16 10:37 AM (7 years, 30 days ago) |
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Warrior_Monk said: I will definitely read that sutra,since I'm not familiar with zen or any other buddhist tradition that is not theravada (the pragmatic dharmma takes a lot from theravada). Could you point me in some direction regarding acceding visionary states through meditation alone? I'm very much interested in it  Thank you very much psychedelicliz!
Your welcome. 
I'm not actually too familiar with theravada specifically. According to the wiki article Theravada holds that enlightenment is sudden, not gradual. 
I believe in Zen they generally accept a sudden and a gradual. Zen combines a lot of Tao, which, in my opinion, affords them a sort of artfulness tending towards simplicity. 
By visionary state I simply meant what generally occurs when a person does enough psychedelics, meditates effectively, dreams, or goes into a sufficiently deep trance. 
Many visualization exercises (usually in the form of meditation or self-hypnosis) work with imagining series of objects in different colors (such as ascending a rainbow stairway, or viewing a series of different colored fruit). 
In many tantric and magical traditions people are guided to imagine vast and intricate mandalas involving divine beings, elementals, and various symbols. 
Both tantric and western magical practicioners have traditions of using psychedelics, most notably hashish. 
There is a phenomenon where people who take psychedelics only need to think about their previous experiences to access a psychedelic state to some extent. 
I have found that if you learn self-hypnosis, NLP or utilize a ready made hypnosis recording (specifically for deepening meditation and accessing visionary states) it can speed up advancement in meditation. 
It can also enhance psychedelics. 
Richard Bandler has some very accessible material on hypnosis and NLP, and I think that some of it is on youtube. 
Since you probably have some psychedelic experience, all you should need to do is "go into meditation" and remember the series of feelings, sensations, impressions and visions that occured to your own experience during a particular state/ trip that you want to recreate. 
Often times if you spread certain emotions and feelings (relaxation+ any incredible feelings you have had in your life) through your body you can trigger your body to release various hormones and neurotransmitters. 
For example the Tantric technique of relaxing and gradually circulating sensations of sexual stimulation around your body , for more than 20-30 minutes tends to produce visionary states. 
The trick is that if you have a typical genital orgasm it tends to activate a separate hormonal response that counters the visionary one. 
9 hours of this tantric meditation will probably exceed the typical psychedelic trip in intensity. 
This is commonly depicted in the naked shiva laying down (with erection in the more explicit depictions) with the shakti standing on top, in some tantric traditions. 
Often the more you go into trance/visionary/psychedelic/meditation states, through any route, the easier it is find your self going into it through other routes, and the deeper you go.
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