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Offlinepsychedelicliz
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Re: Cannabis paranoia [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23963483 - 12/28/16 06:13 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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psychedelicliz said:
Whenever someone smokes weed or takes a psychedelic they have to confront years of authority figures, news media, parents, and even peers who have said that drugs destroy your brain, and if you do them you will probably get arrested, addicted, go insane, and die. :rolleyes:

Imagine you've just gotten really high :stoned: for the first time and suddenly a lifetime of negative suggestions applies to you, and also you are technically a criminal (and possibly a sinner) in the opinion of whatever backwards corrupt jurisdiction you happen to reside in.

And your really high.  It can be a lot to deal with. :frown:

Suggestions like that can weigh heavily on the minds of anyone, high or not. :stoned:

I think that it is likely that if we just legalized weed, and told everyone that it was perfectly safe and all around good medicine, we could eliminate most of the negative side effects associated with getting high.  :smile:

Just another example of the irresponsible disregard of the placebo effect run amok. :rolleyes:




I hear people say that but I don't necessarily think that's true. Because by this logic that would mean every single illegal drug would give anxiety or at least every hallucinogenic illicit drug but at the end of the day pot is the only one that's given me anxiety and paranoia as an effect. Plus I already know intrinsically that weed isn't bad so I don't think it's "taboo" nature adds to how I feel about the high. Hell where I live in Cali weed is pretty much a food group.
Plus weed is already legal where I live but that hasn't made it any less anxiogenic for me. IMO it's just an inherent quality of the cannabis high. THC is a psychotomimetic after all.




I have encountered people on all sorts of drugs freaking out and paranoid except possibly ecstacy.  :shocked:

I have also encountered people who seem to have a good time no matter what they take.  :cool:

One bit of anecdotal evidence that supports the suggestion theory I presented is as follows.  ::stoned:

I once had a friend who threw constant parties at his house and was always getting drugs for himself and friends.  :thumbup:

At one point they got a consistent hookup on "molly/mdma." :cool:

According to accounts from those involved it was a white powder substance.  :tongue:

Everybody was doing molly and having an absolutely ecstatic time.  Much better than the mixed rolls typically available in the area.  :sun:

Then someone found out that molly was supposed to be a brown powdered substance.  :shocked:

The shit hit the fan over a period of a few weeks and it turned out that everybody was taking "bath salts" a designer drug similar in effect to PCP.  :eek:

Bath Salts are known for making people have PCP style total paranoid freak outs and occasionally resort to eating other peoples faces. :frown:

Everybody doing the bath salts and thinking that it was MDMA had no paranoid and were just experiencing intense euphoria with a slightly psychedelic tinge. :laugh:

They all got pretty angry when they found out about the lie though.  :mad2:

I believe that most of these people would have had different experiences if they thought that they were taking a PCP analog. :stoned:

Navigating human consciousness can be tricky business. :smile:


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OfflineAuroraBorealis88
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Re: Cannabis paranoia [Re: psychedelicliz]
    #23963549 - 12/28/16 06:43 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I have encountered people on all sorts of drugs freaking out and paranoid except possibly ecstacy.  :shocked:




I'm not saying you can't freakout on other drugs and I'm definitely not saying pot is the only drug I've seen make people anxious. I'm saying pot is the only drug I've seen make people inherently anxious unless we're talking about DPH and weird amphetamines.

Whenever I saw people freakout on other drugs there was always some other reason for it, it's not like the drug created it it just heightened bad vibes that already existed.

Paranoia is an effect of cannabis it isn't an effect of LSD or mushrooms. Of course it can happen on LSD or mushrooms but it's not an actual effect which is my point, it's just an amplification of anxiety that's already there when it comes to psychedelics. Weed however seems creates anxiety and paranoia out of thin air. This is common consensus too, I don't know a single experienced person who wouldn't agree with me.

That story seems fishy to me because first off anyone can tell the difference between PCP and MDMA whether you're a novice drug user or not and second off I highly doubt bath salts is even remotely similar to PCP or any dissociative.
Also I call BS on them "finding out" that it was bathsalts. How do they know? How did they find out?

Do you want my own example? Well the first time I took ketamine I thought it was going to feel like MDMA or DXM and did it? No...not even close. It gave me tons of anxiety and was nothing like I expected. No one would ever confuse a dissociative for MDMA that just doesn't happen.

Molly can also be white it doesn't have to be beige, the best MDMA crystals I've ever had were actually pink.

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Re: Cannabis paranoia [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23963919 - 12/28/16 09:05 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I always hated smoking and going out in public when I was 11 YO.  Now, I never smoke with lightweights.  I still hate walking down the street or going somewhere when I'm stoned, and I basically know one guy who I can smoke with.  I'm quit cannabis for a few years.


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Re: Cannabis paranoia [Re: Rollin.n.Strollin]
    #23968831 - 12/30/16 06:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Rollin.n.Strollin said:
I'm always conscious of my paranoia when I'm high, I've never done anything in stupidity because of it. It actually makes me laugh how retarded my thoughts become, like I'll think some random is going to crawl through my bedroom window and stab me to death, but I find it humerus tbh.




This is exactly how I feel Rollin.n.Strollin! Through many cannabis highs, I've learned to detach from the anxiogenic effects. My first experiences with cannabis were borderline psychedelic, yet I was always able, in that state, to recognise it for what it is, and roll with it. I actually enjoyed those early experiences more. The racing thoughts, the mindfuck, the intense enhancement of music, I loved all of it. Never could learn to enjoy the elevated heart rate, though.:grin: Although, even that effect never caused panic either, again because I knew that it was a normal effect of cannabis intoxication.

I guess all the research I did when I was getting into cannabis really helped me.

I think that weed is psychedelic and if not psychedelic, then certainly mind expanding, and that's why I love it! :jah:


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Re: Cannabis paranoia [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23969231 - 12/30/16 09:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Morel Guy said:
No amount of experience is going to make you immune to a bad time.  People with psycadelic experience tend to have more bad times with cannabis.

If you don't get nervous smoking weed from time to time.  You surely get nervous when the stash runs low.

There is no drug enlightenment.  Lot's of fear is caused by people.  Cops, authority, shitty friends, secrets and guilt.

I think some of it is an addiction to cannabis.  Using just a little bit increases the negative effects.  Using enough cures the ailments experienced during the detox.  It's like that with a lot of meds too.  That they say are not addictive.  A cycle of curing the addiction with abundant use or not using enough and just stirring up anxiety/depression.





I get a major fear of death when i experience weed anxiety. Weed is the only drug that does it to me. Its like death becomes this equation or problem that stares at me while im high and its just saying "yup.im death and im coming for you. Nothing is going to stop me. Nothing. You will be dead and even worse you will need to die sooner than later. Sucks for you"


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..

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